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I ask this because though I'm aware porn and dopamine over stimulation is not good, could it be a good method to achieve some results?

I've tried many music options, meditation and hypnosis sessions and I've not achieved much at all. 

I just don't want to become dependent on using VR if i do get results.

Anyone have knowledge on this?

 


   
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I have HTC Vive XR pro and i'm still trying to figure out how to make it work perfectly. But if you really need porn if done right it looks so realstic so its a matter of is it the best option. I much prefer using while having real sex. But if your happy with porn VR is amazing option.


   
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Do not go down this route. I've never been a big porn guy. 5-10 minute tops to do the deed. 

I started THC + VR porn. I could watch 90 minutes straight. It is literally free basing dopamine. You can trick your mind into feeling what is being done in the video and you will forget where you are for 95% of the video. I never used the aneros with the VR as there is no need.

There is a thing called "the handy" that is a device and attaches a pocket pussy too and people make scripts that sync up with the video. That + thc is literally sex on demand with pornstars. It's a bleak / exciting future for single males which ever way you want to view it.

I have not used or watched it months + as it can take over. 

If working on the aneros still I would continue down the meditation route. Remember aneros is about feeling the tiny sensations. But tbh I never had results until using THC with the aneros and don't bother with sober session.

Vr porn and or with handy is a totally different route. 


   
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I agree with your assessment. When I tried VR for gaming with a good headset, I found that it's surprisingly easy to get into the action, and that it feels very active, even with basic graphics. It was the first time in many years I could feel some interest in video games.  Porn+THC on a normal screen is already hypnotic for me, so I can see where VR porn could lead. I do have some experience with things becoming too good to be true when it comes to mixing Super-Os with other kinds of stimulation. Yeah, it's fairly bleak.

Some years ago, I did try VR porn (sober) on one of the headsets that uses a smartphone as the screen, but the picture quality was so bad I quickly gave up on this idea. Still, I could see how it would be easy to get pulled into HD pornography. I really can't recommend investing in VR porn.    


   
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I've tried VR porn, and have to say it's some next-level immersion... I had gotten pretty bored with "pixels on a screen", but this is something else. There's an added element of "being there", which is unimaginably transformative until you actually experience it.

I haven't tried it with weed or aneros, but I'm laughing at the thought of how fucked up I'd feel now if that had been my routine. Be careful with how much of this shit you stack on top of each other, because at some point you might realize it's not good for you on the whole, and that you might need to reign it in... and quitting might be a worse crash-landing than you expect.


   
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Posted by: @clenchy

I haven't tried it with weed or aneros, but I'm laughing at the thought of how fucked up I'd feel now if that had been my routine. Be careful with how much of this shit you stack on top of each other, because at some point you might realize it's not good for you on the whole, and that you might need to reign it in... and quitting might be a worse crash-landing than you expect.

Absolutely ! This really needed to be said.


   
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Reminds me of this scene from 1983 SCI-FI movie Brainscan with Christopher Walken and Natalie Wood.
Early 80's version of VR is recording memories. Sex, of course, is one of the first memories recorded.
Older guy takes the tape home and almost nuts himself to death.  

https://youtu.be/1cvwxqn3xRI?si=n2DYHmlUhwJd3LFw&t=2869


   
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I only had breakthroughs personally when I did no nut November and gave up porn and traditional masturbation.  Could be coincidental but I don't think it was at least for me.  I think I associated porn with TO's too closely perhaps.  I still haven't gone back to it ... until today I looked at some still photos and was kind of meh... not turned on ... so I closed the tab and am not inspired to dive back in.  

I will look at instagram models in swimsuits etc... sometimes to get a bit aroused prior to a session.  I suppose it's enough of a kickstarter with clothed, albeit sometimes rather scantily, still images that get my imagination going.  then let my mind take over. 

As for VR porn - well I have never experienced it and am not necessarily fired up to try it based on my current mindset.  I don't think porn is, of itself, necessarily harmful.  Like anything done to excess it can become perhaps unhealthy.

On this journey I believe at this point there are many paths to the kingdom based on the individual.  If porn of any kind works for you then I that may be the path for you. 


   
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Thank you for all your responses. I guess I'm seeking avenues. I do not have want to go the THC route and to be honest, after around just over 1 year now of practice, I've recently became bored.

I have went back to traditional masturbation, though the interesting thing after a brief period of abstinence, is I do feel pleasure in my anal region. Sorry, this sounds hilarious but I don't know how else to describe it.

I guess the positive is at least I'm more aware of that.

My main question now is, how do I keep things interesting, or get the flare to maintain a practice? Let's face it, it can be time consuming, and often now when I'm busy and need to do the deed, I know jacking off will be an efficient and reliable method.


   
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how do I keep things interesting

For me, the results have kept things interesting. Even if at first, those results weren't earth-shattering, they still made sessions more worth having than not. But having said that, my traditional masturbation sessions were pretty boring at that time. By my late teens or early 20s, I think I had somehow, over the course of several years, gotten better and better at racing to ejaculation, but in the process I'd optimized-away the orgasm almost entirely. It wasn't until I discovered the benefits of slowing things way down, than I started experiencing proper deep orgasms again (for the first time in years). And the aneros is something I started using as part of that.

Sessions very slowly got better until one night, by chance, I had two distinct and intense orgasms that made my abs tense so hard that I doubled-over. That feeling of being aggressively folded in half by my abs (that seemed to have a mind of their own), while my brain just whited-out is something I hadn't experienced since early puberty. I'd forgotten that feeling even existed, and that was a big eye-opener for me, and how bad my orgasms had gotten in comparison (a satisfying sneeze). So that's what kept me interested as a whole.

From day-to-day, my interest was kept alive by experimenting with techniques/ideas and the pull of trying to solve this inner puzzle. I suppose I had already caught glimpses of what else was possible before I even bought an aneros, because I was very into "energy orgasms" and screwing around with building pleasure without touching myself at all. Which is what brought me to prostate stimulation in the first place.

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or get the flare to maintain a practice?

I don't know that it's necessary to maintain any kind of practice. I think it's fine if you want to shift your time-horizon out, and have sessions less often.

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Let's face it, it can be time consuming, and often now when I'm busy and need to do the deed, I know jacking off will be an efficient and reliable method.

I'm thinking that attitude might set someone up for failure in the aneros world, even though I agree with it a lot in a practical sense. I can't remotely chastise you about it, since I've had that same mindset for about the past month and have resorted to the "old quickie" rather than dealing with all kinds of lubes and cleanup. I think I'm going through some sort of seasonal depression, and it's really hard to be bothered right now.
But I think it would help if you re-framed your aneros sessions as something other than a time-consuming way of jacking off. Maybe treat it as meditation instead... lots of people swear by the benefits of meditation, so it wouldn't entirely be an empty hedonistic waste of time, if you treated it as such. It might also give you a less goal-oriented mindset, which I suspect is the key to this anyway, or at least one of the keys.

 


   
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Posted by: @hesnot

I only had breakthroughs personally when I did no nut November and gave up porn and traditional masturbation.  Could be coincidental but I don't think it was at least for me.  I think I associated porn with TO's too closely perhaps.  I still haven't gone back to it ... until today I looked at some still photos and was kind of meh... not turned on ... so I closed the tab and am not inspired to dive back in.  

I will look at instagram models in swimsuits etc... sometimes to get a bit aroused prior to a session.  I suppose it's enough of a kickstarter with clothed, albeit sometimes rather scantily, still images that get my imagination going.  then let my mind take over. 

As for VR porn - well I have never experienced it and am not necessarily fired up to try it based on my current mindset.  I don't think porn is, of itself, necessarily harmful.  Like anything done to excess it can become perhaps unhealthy.

On this journey I believe at this point there are many paths to the kingdom based on the individual.  If porn of any kind works for you then I that may be the path for you. 

Def not a coincidence. You managed to break thru. Well done. Now don't go back. 

As someone who has fallen back a few times its hard to get back out of the instant dopamine hit of masturbation or porn. But you feel so much better when not doing it.  

 


   
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@clenchy thank you for taking the time for your detailed response, it's much appreciated.

I certainly find it interesting that you already dabbled with energy orgasms.

For me, I can't ever recall having what I would consider intense orgasms when I was in my teens although whilst under the influence of weed I could probably jack off 20 times and still be horny 😅.

I admit that I was not really aware of what could be achieved through the prostate until recent, now early 30's, though I would consider myself s seeker and hold the belief that life always has more to show us.

In regards to the meditation aspect I have often treat many sessions as such with this ideology. Maybe similar to you, I have felt a little depressed lately which is potentially seasonal and I suspect could of contributed to me feeling frustrated.

I also agree that though traditional masturbation is reliable, It can be a little boring sometimes, which is partly why I would like to experience something different.

On the contrary, traditional masturbation can be awesome if I have had a brief period of retention with plenty of exercise.

Finally, getting off subject a little, can I ask how I can highlight the text in a box like you have? I'd like to be able to reply more specifically to certain details you wrote. Thanks.

 


   
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Fwiw i can have crazy super o on thc and I don't even bother to ever have a session without it. Its literally 20x better. I only smoke for a session also. Once every few weeks. 


   
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If you are giving up on aneros + normal jacking is boring. VR porn + the handy. Is a route to go down. 

Scale of pleasure for reference.

1/10 masturbation 

1 / 10 Aneros sober

3 / 10 masturbation on THC

5 / 10 VR porn + The Handy

8 / 10 sex

9.5 / 10 VR porn + The Handy THC

10 / 10 sex on THC

20 / 10 Aneros Super on THC

And here in lays why I said VR porn is bad and becareful. It is literally sex on demand partnered with a script (the handy)

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I certainly find it interesting that you already dabbled with energy orgasms.

Yeah I dabbled with it out of boredom for a few years, after discovering it accidentally. I didn't even know what to call it, so never had the language to do a web search. I suppose the first search term I could cobble together was "hands free orgasm", which did eventually lead me here and a few other places.

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can I ask how I can highlight the text in a box like you have? I'd like to be able to reply more specifically to certain details you wrote. Thanks.

Instead of hitting "Reply" use "Quote", then the reply window will open with the other person's text already prepared. You then can delete the parts you aren't replying to. I usually take the tags and copy/paste them to make multiple quotes.


   
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