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I've been using my Aneros (helix syn and progasm), for about 10 months. Over that time, things have really progressed. I am at the point now, when I put the aneros in, I relax for 15 minutes or so and then some involuntaries start. I then rub my nipples and it starts to feel warm in my pelvic region and increases the involuntaries even more.After a while, the involuntaries will be very strong and constant (sometimes the involuntaries go on for 10 minutes straight).
This is pretty cool, but it does not give me an "orgasm" feeling at all.

Now here is where things get a bit interesting. Sometimes my mind kind of just "shuts off" and I concentrate on the aneros hitting my prostate over and over again with the involuntaries. Sometimes it feels like my body is becoming "weightless" or floating a bit. Also, there are a few times when it feels like my mind is trying to go somewhere (which seems a bit scary) and my eyes start to involuntarily flutter while they're closed etc.

Is this my body trying to go to the "next level"??

It almost feels like my body and mind are trying to feel an orgasm all over my body (like a full body orgasm).

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My thought is you are orgasming already... Only you refuse to acknowledge it, consequently missing on part of the pleasure. Yes it doesn't resemble your idea of an orgasm, because your idea is based on ejaculatory orgasms which are pretty different.

You probably are right in that there are next steps... No hurry to rush there anyway... Enjoy!


   
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Thanks for the reply. I've heard some people in here say that their super-o feels like they're on the brink of cumming (the feeling right before the orgasm), but it just last longer and they don't ejaculate.

I also heard some people say that waves of pleasure flow all throughout their body (full body orgasm).

As I said, the involuntaries are cool, but they don't give any type of "orgasmic" feelings.


   
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I don't understand how acknowledging that your orgasaming is of benefit? Will this suddenly make those minor, non orgasmic feelings orgasmic? Is that what your implying cancan? If you do accept that you are orgasming in a very subtle and minor way, what then? Does it get better, will it progress or is this that maximum potential off orgasmic feeling? Pretty poor if it stays at that level wouldn't you say?


   
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@inhope it is as mental as it is physical, the power of suggestion helps create the reality


   
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Yes. I've heard this before, but making something that isn't orgasmic into something that is...hmmm, I think mental focus is important but the physical moreso, that needs the attention first, whee it is felt.


   
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I agree with @inhope.
A orgasm by definition is the peak of sexual excitement. This definitely is not that.

I understand that people experience pleasure differently but this journey usually starts off because someone wants to experience intense physical pleasure. IMO to try and redefine the concept of orgasm into something that has less than intense physical sensations is robbing people that is on their quest to find the super-O.

If someone is happy to label a experience as an orgasm when it is a experience with less than intense physical pleasure, then good on them! This is a individual journey afterall!

For myself, I am not prepared to accept anything less than very intense physical pleasure as a base for an orgasm, anything else is just pleasurable sensations.

@MrCanuck seems your brain is busy with the rewiring process....keep at it!


   
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@MrCanuck

What you seem to be describing is whats known as a calm seas orgasm. And yes, it is most definitely an orgasm. It may feel subtle now, but you are on your way. The sensation of weightlessness and floating is only the beginning.


When I have a calm seas orgasm (a uncommon occurrence for me) I experience the same weightlessness and warm feelings throughout my body that you describe. As my relaxation deepens I feel bolts of pleasure spreading and shooting up my spine and back. My prostate lights up with pleasure and courses thru my back and up and over my head. The pleasure continues in a full body fashion, but for me the most intense pleasures is the feeling of waves pulsing and crashing up and over the head. It is completely distinct from a dry orgasm, which for me is more centered in the prostate.


The first one I had, I couldn't believe what was happening. It was the most serene orgasm imaginable. No clenching, or struggling for orgasm at all. No moaning or sounds escaped me. I was limp as a noodle, breathing stayed completely steady; even slowed a bit. From an outsiders perspective it would have looked as if I was just sleeping and not experiencing the most tranquil, peaceful, and pleasurable experience of my life.


Just something to look forward to!


Good Luck!


   
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The Peridise has that affect on me. The Os seem to come from nowhere and then euphoria and bliss. All the other models are more intense and wavy


   
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@beefstoganoff Your experiences are very similar to mine. @MrCanuk I think the most important thing I did when I was at your stage in my journey, was not to look for more. "Concentrate on the now" and enjoy the pleasant feelings. I think you "are" very close. It took me a long time, but it was worth the wait! More to look forward to......I now experience the feelings you mentioned daily while at work without aneros. These feelings build int mini O's until time for my next session.Sounds like you are on the right track. Enjoy!


   
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Thanks for the replies everyone 🙂

So beefstroganoff and G-Force.... Is the super-O that you feel better than a normal orgasm?

Does it "feel like" the "just before you cum" feeling?


   
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This is a very difficult question to answer. As many people have pointed out on this forum, we can only give each other advice. We try to keep everything positive. I wish I could tell you what you will feel, however, our experiences are all unique. I would not be helping you, by trying to tell you how your orgasms will feel.
I will say.....Don't try to compare your feelings to anything you have experienced before. let every tiny sensation build, and go along with it wherever it decides to take you. I still find that many of my sessions are quite different from others. It always surprises me how it just keeps getting better.

Years before I joined this forum, I had the same questions. I too was looking for something to feel better than a traditional orgasm. It is easier said than done, but the sooner you can stop thinking of a normal orgasm the better.

I am not as eloquently gifted describing my feelings as some others on the forum. But, for me, the Super O is not 10x or 100x better than a traditional orgasm......It is off the chart!! Believe in your journey. I think it feels way better than the "just before you cum" feeling, but you have to go in a different direction to get there. Just think, you have the ability to feel incredible pleasure for hours on end multiple times per day. Pretty Amazing!

Just trying to keep you thinking positively!! You are on your way.


   
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Awesome. Thank you for your reply and advice. Makes sense. I'll just try and "let my mind and body go". I'll just enjoy the involuntaries and keep relaxing. Hopefully in time it will take me to another level.

Not sure if you can answer this, but when you say that "for you" it feels better than the "just before you cum" feeling, does it feel at all like that, or is it a different, better kind of whole body "pleasure" feeling?


   
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@MrCanuck

I agree with G-Force. Expectations only distract from the pleasure you can feel right now! With that being said I'll still try and tackle your questions. Maybe they will provide some insight.

For me, a prostate centered orgasm feels more like being on the verge of ejaculation. Still, it is not quite the same. I begin to moan like during a traditional orgasm and have a similar reaction, but over a longer period of time. The pleasure comes in intermittent waves and spikes while a traditional orgasm has one quick burst of extreme pleasure.

The calm seas orgasm is special in that it is the opposite of the typical reaction to orgasm. Feelings of sinking deeper and relaxation envelope the mind and body instead of clenching or clamping felt during a "normal" dry orgasm. The pleasure feels more concentrated in the mind (with waves emanating up from the prostate), bolstering and intensifying the emotions felt throughout the experience. It could be described as an open or airy euphoria. Almost as if the pleasure were touching your very being. A distinctly emotional event! The phrased "blissed out" describes it well. People interpret this feeling differently. I put it down to just one more amazing thing my body can achieve, but for others it is a vastly spiritual feeling.


   
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I agree Re: expectations. Though those expect ions of what it should feel like are kind of the aneros companies fault, look at the packaging and instructions on the aneros products "put it in and the device works automatically"

BS! it requires a journey and training and mental readiness. None of that on the box!


   
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Thanks for your interpretation beefstroganoff, and to everyone else who replied.

As my journey continues, I'll focus less on expectation, and concentrate more on feeling what's there.
At some point, hopefully the super-o decides to come out and play with me 🙂


   
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@MrCanuck

For me, a prostate centered orgasm feels more like being on the verge of ejaculation. Still, it is not quite the same. I begin to moan like during a traditional orgasm and have a similar reaction, but over a longer period of time. The pleasure comes in intermittent waves and spikes while a traditional orgasm has one quick burst of extreme pleasure.

The calm seas orgasm is special in that it is the opposite of the typical reaction to orgasm. Feelings of sinking deeper and relaxation envelope the mind and body instead of clenching or clamping felt during a "normal" dry orgasm. The pleasure feels more concentrated in the mind (with waves emanating up from the prostate), bolstering and intensifying the emotions felt throughout the experience. It could be described as an open or airy euphoria. Almost as if the pleasure were touching your very being. A distinctly emotional event! The phrased "blissed out" describes it well. People interpret this feeling differently. I put it down to just one more amazing thing my body can achieve, but for others it is a vastly spiritual feeling.

I had several of those last night with the smallest Peridise in the beginners set. It was like floating in space, absolutely no sound, and I had music playing in the headphones, it was unreal! It must have been a brown-out from the overloaded circuits!


   
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@ MrCanuck - You're very close to a super O from what you describe. My journey was much like yours, about 10 months until the first one, with the relaxation you describe and the warmth building in my pelvis with the involuntaries, especially with tickling my nipples. Suddenly one night the warmth flowed right out to the end of my penis, kind of burning like, with the neatest hot feeling orgasm but nothing would come out, lasting a couple minutes. Over the next few months this came more and more consistently with greater and greater orgasmic intensity.

I think you're really close to this happening for you also. The neat relaxed floating and other feelings that accompany it are all part of the super O, so technically speaking you're already having some of the sensations of a super O. You'll just really love the orgasmic feeling when it comes strongly also.


   
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Awesome. That is very encouraging. Thank you for sharing slimjim 🙂


   
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@inhope
I found your comment very funny regarding instructions on the box (I hope I took it the right way).

I was thinking there needs to be something else on the box like......WARNING: This device may lead to job loss and the desire to never leave your house again. Stock up on lube and Good Luck!


   
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@MrCanuck
I think you are having orgasms. And I agree that your body is trying to get to the “next level.” I believe you have reached the point where you are able to recognize and initiate the physical sensations: the contractions coming from your pelvic region. You can now concentrate on some of the other skills which can help you recognize, feel, and enjoy those orgasms.


I had this same issue. I could feel contractions, it felt good, but not great. Later I began incorporating more mental processes into the experience, and that’s when I started feeling these sensations as enjoyable, pleasurable orgasms. I have tried a lot of mental acrobatics, and I believe it all helps me. KSMO techniques, amygdala clicking, weed, meditation, and especially fantasy exploration.


I find that meditation, either before or during a session, is helpful. I especially like doing one of the many guided meditations for chakra opening/balancing/alignment you can find on YouTube or podcasts. Whether you are “into” this kind of thing or not, it’s great for focusing on body awareness. For me, relaxation is the key. I have to feel safe and secure and free to enjoy this. So I plan sessions during private time, I prepare my room to be a comforting nest, I listen to calming music, etc.


The other big thing for me is visual imagery and fantasy. That seems to connect the physical sensations with the sexual pleasure for me. My fantasies jump around continuously, as I search for whatever is going to push me a little further. I don’t watch porn at all while in a session. I usually wear a sleep mask while I’m having my session. I try to block outside distractions. I also wear earbuds with music or binaural waves. I want to get completely into my little world.


One other thing that I don’t see mentioned often is that I have much more pleasure when I can get my lower belly to relax. I often have tightness there, and I often spend a good deal of my sessions going back and trying to relax there. I believe that clenching the lower belly muscles diminishes the pleasure of the contractions. It’s like the body is fighting the orgasm. But this may be very specific to just me!


   
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Thanks for the input SaddleUp. So, now that you're starting to feel these sensations as "enjoyable", how is the feeling different from when they were just feeling "good" and not "great"?

Is it a full body warmth, tingling, orgasm feeling etc.?


   
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@MrCanuck

The other big thing for me is visual imagery and fantasy. That seems to connect the physical sensations with the sexual pleasure for me. My fantasies jump around continuously, as I search for whatever is going to push me a little further. I don’t watch porn at all while in a session. I usually wear a sleep mask while I’m having my session. I try to block outside distractions. I also wear earbuds with music or binaural waves. I want to get completely into my little world.


One other thing that I don’t see mentioned often is that I have much more pleasure when I can get my lower belly to relax. I often have tightness there, and I often spend a good deal of my sessions going back and trying to relax there. I believe that clenching the lower belly muscles diminishes the pleasure of the contractions. It’s like the body is fighting the orgasm. But this may be very specific to just me!

I agree, I have Bose noise cancelling headphones and also cover my head with a pillow, really helps block outside distractions! I either concentrate on the beat of the music, or visualizations

If I start the kegel exercises too soon, it actually prevents me from relaxing all the muscle regions down there and takes me longer. You can do pretty much the same thing with hip motions, which keep me relaxed, but help get movement from the devices


   
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@MostInteresting1,Your last point resonates strongly with me.
I also find that very gently and slowly rocking my hips during an Aneros session helps to get the tool moving in just the right way. In fact the motion is not really a motion at all.

I just apply muscle tensions sufficient to replicate 'humping' without actually doing so, and that is enough. I imagine myself being a gentle sensuous lover while fantasising that I am having loving intercourse. This works beautifully to generate the desired responses from the tool.


   
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Pommie what you're deceived is micro movements like I have been saying for months! It's like contractions but they're Quicker


   
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@inhope, how did you get beyond the micro movements. Mine feel like mini contractions, they can come in groups, not always in the same place. Occasionally a stronger one. I am not sure what they are but I often get them when I lie down. As you say they are quicker


   
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@inhope,I'm not sure what you mean by "deceived".
Also, my movements, (such as they are), are certainly not quick.

@isvara,
you seem to be eluding to something different from what I feel.


   
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Yes, they are small slow movements of the hips that helps you 'paint' your prostate with device which is the brush. As @pommie says, the movement is like slow humping.


   
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@Pommie, they are different. I am not sure what they are. @inhope sort of describes them as micro movements. They originally seemed like a reflex response but lately they have come in sort series and are quite quick. I will see where they lead to. They are not unpleasant.


   
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Deceived = described. Stupid autocorrect! The micro movements of which I speak are user controlled not involuntary


   
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