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Hey there,

Very long time lurker, first time poster here. Sorry about the title, couldn't resist.

I bought my first aneros 2 years ago and didn't really go very far during this time, even though I used aneros almost every day at first, then a couple of times a week.

The only time I had a super-o/spiritual experience when I took lsd, but that is a different story. Even after that experience I didn't really go any further in the following sessions.

A couple of times I've gotten my hands on some weed and that made things much better, but weed is illegal here, so I can't rely on it.

I bought helix trident, eupho trident and progasm, hoping one of them would help me to finally get somewhere. I used a lot of positions, lubes, porn, audio porn, music - whatever I could think of. Nothing really worked. It was a pleasurable foreplay for traditional masturbation, basically.

It made me realize that I might not be able to achieve an orgasm (not even talking about super - o) because I suffer from chronic overthinking and all the problems that come with it. Due to this problem I am unable concentrate on sensations, I have to distract myself with porn or other arousal materials.

So when I realized this real problem, I've decided I would stop watching porn and masturbate only if I couldn't help myself. In theory this should better help me get aroused by my thoughts.

I am a couple of weeks in of no porn (only small peeking). Yesterday I've decided I would have a session (last time I fapped was 2 days ago, so nothing special). It was quite difficult to just lay there without any external stimulants. My mind has forgotten how to fantasize so it wasn't super fun.

I played with my nipples a bit and it felt a bit better, then my mind wondered by itself to some sexy fantazies and I suddenly had my first non-substance induced dry orgasm. It wasn't anything special, but it felt great. But it also made me realize how crucial it is to let my mind go where it wants (just like for your body). So I'd say, this is a do-nothing method for your mind. By distracting myself with external arousal factors I was not letting myself get fully into my own arousal.

I definitely feel more optimistic now, because lately I've been more and more disappointed. I hope I can soon write a post where I am able to share experience of my first super-o.


   
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Great job breaking trough! Overthinking is a huge problem and one of my pet theories is that most struggling users are dealing with this to a degree or another. Either we manage to shut our thinking down, like maybe you did with substances, or else we must find a way to focus the 'thinking energy' on things that are productive for our sessions. 

Do you find that you mind wanders even when you are watching porn? Like checking the background instead of the performers, catching a glimpse of the cameraman in a mirror, focusing on a police siren in the distance, I do all these things as the on screen action requires zero thinking and I can't manage this... Porn just stopped being 'real' for me a long time ago. 

Hey sorry for turning this into an interrogation session, you're doing great and I really think that you're on to something, thanks for sharing with us, keep going and you'll get there! 


   
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Nice continuation of my clickbait 🙂

As for the porn - no I don't think so. I get really into it and consume way too much. Never really had a problem with concentrating on other things.

I think for persons like me (control freaks), learning to use aneros is way harder because we think we think we can force it, when in reality the opposite makes it work.


   
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@pirontras

I'm approaching it in another way, where I don't necessarily think I can force it, but I do think I can solve it, at least for myself. In a way I lose focus trying to optimize things and get lost in the technicalities of the Super-O.... Hey maybe I have some little ADD traits, but for me navigating trough the obstacles is part of what makes it interesting. 

 


   
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Even if we aren’t talking about decreased sexual sensitivity,many people report watching porn cause distraction. I myself found the lions share of my focus would be on the screen instead of what was happening in my prostate. Then you have the issues around getting bored and swapping scenes and clips can reduce a building session back to zero.

But now you’ve seen the potential,keep going!
Good luck. 


   
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Posted by: @pirontras

... then my mind wondered by itself to some sexy fantazies and I suddenly had my first non-substance induced dry orgasm. It wasn't anything special, but it felt great. But it also made me realize how crucial it is to let my mind go where it wants (just like for your body). So I'd say, this is a do-nothing method for your mind. By distracting myself with external arousal factors I was not letting myself get fully into my own arousal.

Probably long before you started reading the forum I noted similar findings in my thread "Just Let Go !". Your experience echos the experience of many other users as they have had to navigate through their own 'mind noise' jungles. For many men it takes this type of paradigm shift in thinking to achieve success with their Aneros models, I'm glad to hear you have finally made that basic first step toward your 'rewiring'.

Good Vibes to You!


   
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Probably long before you started reading the forum I noted similar findings in my thread "Just Let Go !". Your experience echos the experience of many other users as they have had to navigate through their own 'mind noise' jungles. For many men it takes this type of paradigm shift in thinking to achieve success with their Aneros models, I'm glad to hear you have finally made that basic first step toward your 'rewiring'.

Thank you for the link, will definitely check it out. The thing is I already seen the ultimate reward of aneros when I took lsd. It basically took me to heaven for hours. So now it's also hard to handle expectations when best you can expect (for now) is a simple orgasm.


   
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Hi, congrats on your progress. I am very curious to know about your LSD orgasmic experience. Have you taken LSD since? I am a regular (3-4 times a year) LSD user, and I am very interested in other’s experiences with the drug combined with prostate play.  

also I don’t know any countries where LSD is more legal or more easily accessible than pot (and if I did... I would want to live there!)


   
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Posted by: @pirontras

Sorry about the title, couldn't resist.

It would have been beautiful if the reason for your breakthrough had been e-stim. 😛


   
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Hi, congrats on your progress. I am very curious to know about your LSD orgasmic experience. Have you taken LSD since? I am a regular (3-4 times a year) LSD user, and I am very interested in other’s experiences with the drug combined with prostate play.  

also I don’t know any countries where LSD is more legal or more easily accessible than pot (and if I did... I would want to live there!)

Oh I got illegally. I did not take LSD ever since because after I experienced super O, I had a bad trip - a very bad one. In essence part of me died on that day and I still feel negative effects from it after 1.5 years. Quarantine didn't help either of course. Anyway, here is the description of super O I wrote up after I had it.

So I've got first aneros 6 months ago, been doing a lot of sessions. Last week I took lsd and decided to have a session. I used aneros helix trident.

I never achieved any kind of orgasm before even tho I've been getting close lately. That's why I knew lsd would help me get over the edge.

I closed my eyes, put on some meditation music and got into deep meditation. Didn't really do anything special. Lsd allowed me to experience sensations through visuals (for example I was able to see orgasm as a shining ball of light inside space).

After I achieved first orgasm I was amazed, but then something different happened. Different body parts were starting to get unlocked, I felt energy flowing there and they were starting to shake. I took some time to get energy flowing in all body parts. I was shaking in various frequencies and felt as if I was being pulled on strings like a puppet.

Then something happened where I started visualize train station and railroad. Then I saw bright lights as if I was in a tunnel of light and felt I was aligning the "rails" of light, then super orgasm hit me and I shook like crazy. It's hard to describe, but I felt I was channeling pure cosmic energy, or achieved nirvana. I didn't feel myself at all. It was just energy and pleasure. Every time the peak orgasm would hit me I would again see the "light rails" aligning as if I was aligning my chackras or something. I don't know how long I was orgasming or how many of them I had. All I know is that I saw God.

 

 


   
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Posted by: @pirontras

I did not take LSD ever since because after I experienced super O, I had a bad trip - a very bad one.

I'm sorry to hear about your 'bad' trip, the profundity of any psychedelic trip can be very challenging. I don't think full dose administration of psychedelics is a particularly good approach for newbies and/or 'grinders' to move forward in their Aneros use learning. However, I think there may be some distinct advantages to opening up one's mind to the thought paradigm shift needed to advance by use of microdosing/threshold dosing. Perhaps you would care to add your thoughts/comments to the Microdosing & Aneros? thread.

Good Vibes to You!


   
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I don't have experience with psychedelics, but this did not stop me from experiencing what I'm pretty sure were akin to bad trips during very intense sessions when my mind was not in a good place. I would not like to know what would have happened if drugs had been involved. I will echo what @rumel very wisely said, even if you have access to these substances, I would at least wait until you already know how you react to Super-Os before incorporating them in your sessions in full doses.

Microdosing seems to hold lots of potential and it's definitely something I wish I'll be able to try once/if the laws in my country permit me to do so. I have lots of anxiety to deal with and the fear of getting caught/getting in trouble, and dealing with some shady characters, even if the risk is low, would be enough to screw with the results...  


   
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Damn, I am sorry to hear about your bad trip. Had you had good trips before?  I hope you are able to put the bad behind you, and who knows, possibly even grow from the experience?  Other than therapy or waiting it out, I don’t see another solution. (My solution of “drop acid when you’re in a good place, and reflect” might not work in this situation.)

 

For your prostate quest, no porn and minimal masturbation sounds like a good plan. Since you had success with nipple play, why not extend it to full body caressing. Find other hot spots all over your body.  Think about how much time you spend watching porn, and instead spend that time gently caressing your body.  Imagine your hands are a partners hands. Try creating filthy porn in your mind. Role play.  Mentally creating fantasies is so much more powerful than watching a video, and can be as powerful (or more, for some people/acts) as actually living the fantasies, with practice....

 


   
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