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@Clenchy
I actually fell asleep with it last night. It did nothing for me other than quick burst of pleasure that dissipated as soon as they came. What do you think about or do prior to sleep that enhances these sessions for you?

I don't think about (or do) anything, I act exactly as if I'm trying to go to sleep, right down to the position I usually go to sleep in. I'd say the mindset is - "Ok body, you can do what ever you want, but I'm going to sleep, see ya later." Invariably the sensations and twitches set in and I get sucked slowly away from this passive mindset to a more active one. (I still haven't decided if that's a good or bad thing)

I think it might have something to do with how I'm wired now. I used to do the same thing a few years ago, but I'd be jolted back fully awake by a weird rising intensity that would instantly disappear. A few times I've tried falling into it, dipping deeper and trying to trust and embrace that sensation more.

I've occasionally been able to come out of near-sleep with a warm and fuzzy feeling of snugness that I could ride along with the rest of the usual sensations. It felt like being hugged in a way.

Anyway, like I said, it's just something I've been trying out, so I'm not sure what I can say about it beyond I find it interesting.

There are nights that I fall asleep with the Helix Syn in and, except for a few twinges of pleasantness, nothing much happens, but, as Clenchy notes, just the opposite can occur. Take it as it comes is good advice. @domscraigslist: Very much admired your advice to the young man asking about "Am I 2 young"!

@isvara @mdad
That is exactly what happens to me. When ever a new unknown feeling hits me to strong my body tenses and makes it go away. I to am working on righting this wrong. Hopefully soon I can make my mind realize that it's not pain I'm feeling just pleasure.

@Clenchy
Yes it may be the way you are wired as well as when I use mine I never intentionally go to sleep I just fall asleep while using it. I to get those jults you mention but they are quick and very far apart from each other.

@Armon-neat
Ok I see what you mean I will just keep doing it and I am sure eventually something will kick in. In response to the mentioned post I only did what I saw the rest of the men here do!

@domscraigslist, it takes time and practice to realize your body is tensing up usually unknown to yourself but eventually you can learn to release that and just enjoy the pleasure as it comes. Ive been at this for a few years and i still have a hard time completely relaxing. At least you realize your doing it and can work on it, thats half the battle lol.

Every time I use it something different happens. Right now I'm using it and it's a brand new sensation. I feel a strong urge to push out almost like a bowel movement. I don't know if it's suppose to be like this or not. The feeling is good though.

Yeah, a lot of people have talked about pushing out (rectal contraction I believe), and having this counteracted by an anal contraction that pulls in. I think I read someone saying their aneros actually flew out at one point. =))

@domscraigslist: What you describe are what I first felt in terms of pleasure with the Helix Syn last December (4 or 5 months into my experience). I just posted something on "Bunk"'s thread about techniques to achieve anal O with the Helix.

@domscraigslist - Regarding your rimming experience...my Aneros usage enhanced my experiences with rimming to where the last time I was rimmed I had an over-the-top traditional ejaculation orgasm because that part of me is so alive and sensitive to stimulation! Being rimmed has not hurt my Aneros experience at all! In fact the orgasms I had while being rimmed lasted much longer and felt deeper due to my Aneros practice!

@Clenchy
Yeah I was really concerned that the contractions were going to cause me to go to the use the bathroom so I went to the toilet and that's were the magic happened. I got a brand new wave of tingles and luckily I never had to push out. Lol.

@Armon-neat
That post was extremely helpful. You could be right because the contractions and buzzes that I am getting are really spread throughout my butt hole. Not so much at my prostate.

@Theme_Gasm
That sounds wonderful. It's good to know that using my aneros will make rimming even better and possibly orgasmic. I will absolutely do it again.

Hey guys as things are slowly progressing well. I started experiencing shakes and involuntary movements in my sleep. Some have happened after using aneros others have happened without. Is this normal, does it mean anything in particular?

Yes, it means that you have a prostate that is responding and awakened to stimulation, and your body and mind are working together to accept and respond accordingly...IMHO!

@Theme_Gasm oh ok that sounds like I'm making good progress then. It's just odd my body is choosing when and how it wants to be stimulated and I'm not in control anymore. I sort of like to be in control at all times so this is uncharted territory for me.

Most men want/need to be in control, which is often the reason for little success for many! Letting go is going to help you be much more successful!

TG

Giving up control is hard to do @Theme_Gasm Do you have any suggestions on relaxing and letting go?

Guys I need a little help. I keep falling asleep during my sessions. I always enjoy them but when I try to really relax I just drift away to sleep. How do I both relax and stay awake long enough to enjoy the pleasures I'm feeling?

Guys I need a little help. I keep falling asleep during my sessions. I always enjoy them but when I try to really relax I just drift away to sleep. How do I both relax and stay awake long enough to enjoy the pleasures I'm feeling?

I'm betting you only have your sessions at night! Most of my best sessions are during the day, after I'm fully rested, and not after I've put in a full days work! However, I will ride at night to get some pleasure just before going to sleep, but then I'll remove my Aneros, so I actually get some sleep!

TG

Be more turned on. If you had a naked woman in front of you begging to be touched, would you fall asleep? I think not, so the goal is try to be more horny 😉

Guys I need a little help. I keep falling asleep during my sessions. I always enjoy them but when I try to really relax I just drift away to sleep. How do I both relax and stay awake long enough to enjoy the pleasures I'm feeling?

This is a big problem for me. I mostly do my sessions at night, after I get in bed. Sometimes I can stay awake long enough to experience good things, but most times I fall asleep and wake up at 2AM with it in. I like to look at it as a better way to fall asleep than tossing and turning. 🙂 Private time during the day is not something I get very often! And if it is, I should probably be working. 🙂

@domscraigslist, I am sure now that "not letting go" is my problem and possible the problem for those who seem stuck. That 'control' is so subtle that we are not even aware that it there. I have only just sensed it and it is just going to take time to get around it. E.g I start to get just a nice "tickle" when I feel the 'control' coming to 'help' but in fact it stops it by 'helping'.

@domscraigslist, I am sure now that "not letting go" is my problem and possible the problem for those who seem stuck. That 'control' is so subtle that we are not even aware that it there. I have only just sensed it and it is just going to take time to get around it. E.g I start to get just a nice "tickle" when I feel the 'control' coming to 'help' but in fact it stops it by 'helping'.

That's exactly been my interpretation as well!

TG

@Theme_Gasm
Yeah bruh all of my sessions are at night. I don't really have much time during the day and I have a pretty hectic work schedule. If having a day session is better I could go to sleep mad early and then be up for the morning two or three hours before work. Thank you for your observations.

@ineverknew
The problem is if I watch porn I don't focus enough on the stuff going on or in me. My aneros sessions seem to be stronger if there is no distraction. Unfortunately during the less interesting sensations I just doze off. I will try some ways to keep myself sexually engaged throughout a session next time.

@mdad
That is my problem exactly. I have awoken with it in me many times. I hope that maybe sleeping with it in me will help the rewiring process. I never do it purposely but it seems to happen more and more. Some times I just set my alarm after an hour or two into a session it goes off so that I can wake up and remove it.

@isvara
You may have hit the nail on the head with that one. I have been trying to relinquish control to my body. It's not easy for me. Sexual I am extremely dominate, I enjoy taking charge. Learning to let go will be a process I am sure. Any suggestions on letting go guys?

@mdad
That is my problem exactly. I have awoken with it in me many times. I hope that maybe sleeping with it in me will help the rewiring process. I never do it purposely but it seems to happen more and more. Some times I just set my alarm after an hour or two into a session it goes off so that I can wake up and remove it.

Occasionally, I'll be awoken by pleasurable sensations from it. So falling asleep with it in is not a huge deal, and is sometimes fun. But it does make it hard to have longer sessions when I start them at 11:00. At least it gives me something to concentrate on while going to sleep. I often times think too much about my work day, and this is a good distraction.

@mdad I never feel any pleasure when I fall asleep with it in. I just wake up feeling like I wasted time. I do enjoy the feeling before I doze off though.

Ok guys I'm sort of stuck. I really need a way to get over the hump. My sessions fizzle but never get to the next level. I know it has to do with my control issues any suggestions on how to let go of myself. Are there any guys out there like me who are extremely sexually aggressive in bed who have had success giving over control to the devise?

Some where recently on the forum it was suggested that we need to feed back what we like by saying it aloud. My plan is to give enough continuos good feed back to the subconscious for it to alter it programming (control). So I started to do this e.g I like that tickle, I enjoy that pressure, I like that movement, as I responded to what I was experiencing. The subconscious work on averages, for our safety, so I am changing what I think about each session especially the null ones. On my first attempt at this I found that some of the nice sensations repeated which is unusual for me. Also yesterday my Ej was really powerful like it was when I was young. It took me by surprise. So I am reaffirming that I am enjoying the journey and smelling the flowers by the path. I have also found the good old SGX is helpful.
I also think expectations make the subconscious feel edgy.
(Writing this I think is going to be more helpful to me than it may be to you, as it is another message to my subconscious!)

Some where recently on the forum it was suggested that we need to feed back what we like by saying it aloud. My plan is to give enough continuos good feed back to the subconscious for it to alter it programming (control)

Excellent idea to affirm your own positive qualities. I've long maintained that successful Aneros practice is more than 90% a mental exercise. Self affirmations DO work at reprogramming your body responses, it is mental training/conditioning which can only help your progress to better and quicker responsiveness.
Every time you make a conscious mental note affirming or reaffirming even the slightest pleasurable sensation and then tell yourself consciously "...this is good ...this is something I want to repeat...I want more of this..." or similar statements you are bolstering the new neural programming already occurring in your brain ('rewiring').

I also think expectations make the subconscious feel edgy

Yes, having expectations creates a double bind which may lead into cognitive dissonance. When expectations are unmet, frustration usually arises, this leads to stress and release of hormones which are counterproductive to relaxing and the generation of pleasure. Your body goes into conflict with itself. Consciously you're trying to generate pleasure but your body is releasing epinephrine, cortisol and other compounds in reaction to the stress and may be inhibiting the uptake/release of the pleasure hormone dopamine. The 'edginess' is the result of the epinephrine (adrenaline), a mild 'adrenaline rush' but counterproductive to dopamine satiation.
If you let go of the expectations then the body can respond naturally and NOT in conflict with itself, the mind/body synergy in harmony.
Good Vibes to You !

I know this may sound nuts and I'll get a lot of criticism for it (and I'm not sure about this myself) but I think that as far as the aneros experience itself is concerned I found that approaching it from a non-sexual pleasure inducing and a narcissistic one at that, is better than Thinking of it as a proxy for sexual satisfaction. (What's this guy saying, is he crazy???). Hear me out. A number of compadres have written about dumping the porn and the tantric music or other suggestive stuff and I have been one of them. I think I made most of my progress towards being able to feel the depth of the early sensations with my device when I did that. Don't get me wrong, the sensations overlap and how and now my sessions can get me going sexually whether it culminates in lovemaking when I'm home or a dry T when I'm traveling. Maybe once your brain and prostate and perineum re-wire then maybe we can (borrowing from physics) get into the GUT zone ( as in the Grand Unified Theory of physics uniting relativity with quantum mechanics). Here I'm talking about a zone where all those pleasure producing stimuli interact and overlap and enhance one another. So, domscraiglist, and you've heard it before, just experience the sensations fully. Don't analyze them but make yourself aware of exactly what you feel and when and forget the distractions. Later, when you've learned the path, you probably can apply your re-wiring to other pleasure producing activities, though I'm kind of thinking that with the pleasure and bliss that comes with the full experience we may find that the quiet blissful pleasure is a better goal. (So maybe he's not so crazy, after all). Nah, he's crazy all right... 8-}