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Hello again all you guys who recommended the Fleshlight.

I finally succumbed and ordered a FL Stamina Training Unit (STU) Gold special edition. I chose that model because I read on their website that is is preferred over the Wonder Wave for men who still have their hoods intact, and also because it is more a "men's health" device rather than just a toy.

My new "exercise equipment" will arrive on Monday. Can't wait to start practicing ...


   
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Hello again all you guys who recommended the Fleshlight.

I finally succumbed and ordered a FL Stamina Training Unit (STU) Gold special edition. I chose that model because I read on their website that is is preferred over the Wonder Wave for men who still have their hoods intact, and also because it is more a "men's health" device rather than just a toy.

My new "exercise equipment" will arrive on Monday. Can't wait to start practicing ...

You won't regret the STU - it is awesome - it feels amazing when you cum - those nubs rubbing on your sensitive head will send you to the moon.


   
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Thanks BonerOwner. I've been practicing solo ejaculation control for a year or two now and managing to contain myself for one to three weeks while enjoying the most awesome sustained multiple orgasms by means of daily EMD exercise, usually combined with prostate massager.

If I don't spend myself in the meantime then Monday will be my eighth consecutive day without splurging. So I don't know yet whether to decide to splurge with the STU on the first session or try to hold on, and whether to have my prostate massager in at the same time. What would you suggest?

Solo sex is the only sex I've been able to have for some years, and I'm used to enjoying myself for a couple of solid hours at a time almost every day and sometimes twice a day. Do you think I'll be able to last two solid hours with the STU on the first round? I'll be elated if I can. I'm so looking forward to the feeling of having sex again.

By the way, just as I was told, the Maven sleeve didn't feel anything like a vagina at all. On the contrary, it was quite a turn-off. After an hour with it I got bored and limp and threw it in the trash.

PS: I should add that my erect penis plays a very significant roll in my extended orgasmic pleasure even when using the massager. That's why I say "two 'solid' hours." During EMD exercises I frequently pause to massage my penis between my fingers and thumbs, very slowly, from deep in the base moving little by little to the head. The pleasure is excruciating. Then I return to EMD and spread that pleasure throughout my whole body.


   
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If I don't spend myself in the meantime then Monday will be my eighth consecutive day without splurging. So I don't know yet whether to decide to splurge with the STU on the first session or try to hold on, and whether to have my prostate massager in at the same time. What would you suggest?

Solo sex is the only sex I've been able to have for some years, and I'm used to enjoying myself for a couple of solid hours at a time almost every day and sometimes twice a day. Do you think I'll be able to last two solid hours with the STU on the first round? I'll be elated if I can. I'm so looking forward to the feeling of having sex again.

By the way, just as I was told, the Maven sleeve didn't feel anything like a vagina at all. On the contrary, it was quite a turn-off. After an hour with it I got bored and limp and threw it in the trash.

Well, whether or not you actually want to finally ejaculate when using your STU the first time is up to you. For me, the STU feels great when I am stroking, etc., but what really sells me on the STU is the orgasm. I have also been edging while masturbating for awhile as well, and can usually control when I cum at this point, however I find it is harder to do with the STU. When I get to just before that point of no return, and I stop stroking (as usual), I find that every little movement, such as my cock twitching or throbbing, etc., is magnified with the STU making it harder to hold off (but not impossible). Then as I am cumming if I try to keep on stroking with the STU I find it harder to do since the feelings are so intense. It would be fun to have a partner use the STU on me and just go to town with the fleshlight while I am cumming - it would make my brain melt. Even if you decide to hold of cumming, when you finally do decide to ejaculate then make sure you use the STU for that! 😀

Sorry to hear about your maven experience - I am glad you settled on a fleshlight - you will definitely like it I am sure. You might want to buy some corn starch and powder your sleeve after you rinse it out - it will keep it nicer for longer.


   
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Hey G.T.,

Got a toy coming, eh? I am an owner of an STU myself. I almost laughed out loud (lol - I still like to write that out) when you speculated about being able to last two hours without the splurge. You will be a better man than me if you can do it. I was pretty hard pressed to last 10 minutes on my first time with the STU. I don't use it as much as I thought I would, but it is a nice unit. Go for it! And have some fun, you deserve it!


   
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Thanks guys for your inputs. Well I guess I'll find out soon enough whether I blow it in two minutes or two hours 😆

I can't decide yet whether I should get in there right away or enjoy an hour of "foreplay" beforehand.

But whatever strategy I follow, I'll always be sure never to cum without being in there. I'm horny just thinking about it 😀


   
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GrandTiger - When you do use the STU and decide to finally cum, try doubling the speed and length of your stroke and then keep stroking like that for at least 100 times at double speed. 😯 😈

You can also use the Fleshlight hands-free by placing it between a mattress and boxsprings, or putting it in a shoe, etc..

Have fun! 😀


   
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Thanks guys. I'll know soon enough whether I last two minutes, two hours, or two seconds 😆

I can't decide yet whether it's best to get in there right away or enjoy an hour of foreplay beforehand, but I'll certainly be sure not to cum unless I'm in there.

That's interesting advice BonerOwner about speeding up at the end. Usually if I decide to go for a grand finale I relax as much as possible with almost no motion, sometimes no motion at all, and focus on the gradual crescendo of orgasmic sensations in my penis and spreading through my whole body, making the extremely intense build-up last as long as possible, sometimes several minutes. It is during that time that I feel my whole being dissolving into a higher dimension of divine ecstasy. Then I start to ejaculate, a little at first, then followed by something like a supernova, eight or so incredible contractions and then another massive burst followed by another ten or so contractions before I'm totally spent and gratified. I call it a hyper-T.

I always get my most intense sustained orgasms flat on my back, so I visualized myself enjoying the STU in the "woman on top" position. Anyway, I'm sure I'll be trying everything imaginable with it sooner or later.

Thanks again guys, I'll report back and let you know how it goes, or how I cums 😀


   
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That's strange, I accidentally closed my browser and thought my last but one post was lost, but now it's there. Oh well, nevermind.


   
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That's interesting advice BonerOwner about speeding up at the end. Usually if I decide to go for a grand finale I relax as much as possible with almost no motion, sometimes no motion at all, and focus on the gradual crescendo of orgasmic sensations in my penis and spreading through my whole body, making the extremely intense build-up last as long as possible, sometimes several minutes. It is during that time that I feel my whole being dissolving into a higher dimension of divine ecstasy. Then I start to ejaculate, a little at first, then followed by something like a supernova, eight or so incredible contractions and then another massive burst followed by another ten or so contractions before I'm totally spent and gratified. I call it a hyper-T.

Well, it was actually kind of sarcastic - I don't think it would be physically possible to last the 100 strokes at double speed. The sleeve of the STU is filled with rows and rows of spiny bumpy fleshlike material, and when well-lubed from your cum and lube and your head is sensitive from cumming each little bump feels like an intense little tounge flicking at the edges and along the top of your swollen sensitive head. I think you have a good handle on what feels best for you - the Fleshlight will be a nice toy, but obviously your mind is the best sex toy 😀


   
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One of the reasons why I prefer the "wonder wave" over the "STU" is because of the INTENSE stimulation that I feel on the head of my penis when I cum while using the "STU". It is too intense for me and I am circumcised. I thought the wonder wave might have still been a little too intense upon ejaculation. But, then I discovered something... I initially made the mistake of practically stopping (no in and out motion) or slowing down almost completely. However, I finally discovered a new approach. Just keep going when you ejaculate. You WILL think it is too intense, but allow your body to relax and keep keep at it. I found when I kept going my entire body would quiver and shake uncontrollably. Also, make sure you have some privacy. In order to drive through this intense experience you'll probably need to make some noise. 😉


   
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I have the Super Ribbed....and I cant last more than 10 mins.....4 or 5 is the norm!


   
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my 2 fleshlights are the Pink Lady WonderWave and the "Old Butt '" style TurboTube {Pipedream} ...lol GrandTiger...i can guarentee you...you'll never last 2 hours on first try with your new STU...maybe but i seriously doubt it....my longest FLY"ing session ever was about 45 minutes...normally bout 10 to 15 is bout all i can hold off without cumming...and i forgot who said it but yess when you do cum I also somewhat get a body shake or quiver ...its just way more intense than a regular hand stroke....

and GrandTiger ...as u are just solo...by yourself...i highly recommend you try the mattress/boxspring position on ur knees in the floor...i pretty much do this exclusively...just open the bottom cap bout halfway...lube her with some liquid inside...dorsn't take a lot..you'll figure that out...and get on ur knees and fuck it like ur banging a woman doggie from behind...

LOL...the main thing i enjoy with my 2 FL's is that i can fuck them while i'm smoking a cig and drinking a beer ...grins...thats a definate no go with the wife...enjoy GrandTiger ..you'll love your fjeshlight... 😈


   
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Thanks guys, I'm cracking up here reading these posts.

Like I said, I chose the STU because I never had my hood removed 😀 and I read that uncut guys prefer it over the WW. Anyway, I had about 90 minutes of perfect bliss last night enjoying my penis and prostate and every inch from the soles of my feet to the crown of my head. So many incredible peaks and wave upon wave of absolute ecstasy, and still I haven't splurged!

Actually I find it easier not to cum when I've been on a very high plateau for a while. Most times when I cum unintentionally is on the way up! So perhaps I'll climb up there first before slipping into the STU and maybe I'll last longer that way than if I were to slip into it at the start. And I'll have my prostate massager in at the same time of course.

I believe the prostate massage helps recirculate our juices. That relieves the pressure and helps me to enjoy myself over and over without ejaculating. One of the ways I sustain an extremely intense orgasmic state is by visualizing my juices physically flowing from my "sperm paradise" throughout my whole body. This visualization certainly helps the re-absorption process which makes the whole experience so rejuvenating, and the health benefits to the whole body are awesome. And the pleasure is indescribable.


   
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...i highly recommend you try the mattress/boxspring position on ur knees in the floor...i pretty much do this exclusively...just open the bottom cap bout halfway...lube her with some liquid inside...dorsn't take a lot..you'll figure that out...and get on ur knees and fuck it like ur banging a woman doggie from behind...

^^^^ ditto ^^^^ I almost always go doggie with the FL in between the mattress and box spring.


   
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If you want to feel like your are on top of a beautiful lady or wife.... use the shoe method. With the shoe on top of the bed.... push the flashlight in the opening of a shoe, it places the FL at a slight upward angle, then put a towel on top of the shoe horizontally and use it to hold the FL.. that works great also! 😀


   
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Thanks guys for all the tips.

Package is delayed by one day, should arrive manana, 6th May, it seems like forever! Eight days since I splurged; been recirculating my juices by prostate massage and EMD.

In the meantime I'm studying the STU training manual. I see that the idea is to keep moving, estimating how many strokes we can go and still hold on. But that isn't my way of making love. My way is to go fairly slowly so she builds up to a longer lasting and very intense orgasm while I hold on, and then stop the motion for a while after she orgasms, but staying in there rock solid with the two of us just resting blissfully for a while before I start thrusting again. But that was all a long time ago, and it may be quite a while before I'll be doing it again. In the meantime I can at least enjoy my training to become a "Tantric Master" 😆


   
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Well guys, I survived my first stamina training session with the STU last night without spending myself, even after nine days of countless sustained orgasms since I last ejaculated. The experience was ecstasy beyond words. I’ll agree, the STU really does feel like a real vagina, absolute heaven.

I started about 10:30 p.m. after having my shower. I rinsed out the STU insert and left it to soak in warm water as directed. In the meantime I enjoyed some “foreplay”. But I discovered a problem; I was desperate to get inside it, but so anxious that I would explode on entry, that I couldn’t get an erection 😳 I had my prostate massager in place and tried my Extended Male Deer (EMD) exercise which always pumps up my penis in seconds, but all to no avail. Then I got worried that I’d never be able to do it 😥

I was just too excited, not only my penis (in spite of being limp), but my whole mind and body. So I had to make myself relax, taking long slow deep breaths. It took me about an hour to calm myself down and pull myself together for another go. So I warmed up the STU insert again and lubed it up with a generous helping of Boy Butter H2O, lay flat on my back, STU by my side, and started EMD. This time my penis sprang to attention and in I went. It was absolute heaven in there, so I remained still for quite a while soaking my rock hard penis in its blissful caresses, taking long deep breaths. I lay there in ecstasy for 15 minutes or so before starting some gentle strokes. I continued at a slow strong pace, thrusting and contracting my PC muscle in sync with my breathing (PC contraction on the reverse thrust). I was in seventh heaven. The feeling of all those little nodules sliding over the head of my penis was incredible. Over the next hour or so I practiced different thrusting techniques combined with PC contractions and EMD, and my penis and prostate were pulsating together with waves of pure bliss overwhelming my whole body. Now and then I altered the suction by turning the cap, and several times I felt I was about to cum but I was able to hold on and dissipate the pleasure waves throughout my body. I wanted to just keep on going for ever, but after 1:00 a.m. I figured I must get some sleep so I enjoyed one last sustained whole body non-ejaculatory orgasm to finish off.

I believe that simultaneous prostate massage helped a lot by helping my body re-absorb my fluids and so reduce the pressure.

Then I rinsed, dried, and powdered my STU with cornstarch, put it to air and collapsed back into bed after a totally awesome workout. This morning, prostate massager still in place, I enjoyed a little EMD before getting up. Today my penis feels a little tired. Wow, it’s been a long time since I had that feeling after hours of sex. But as I’m still not spent, I’m ready for more …

So, according to the STU manual, the assumed thrust frequency is 400 in 6 minutes, which is just over 1Hz. But my frequency was typically only about 12 per minute, or one cycle in 5 seconds, really slow. But that’s the way I like it, so that makes it more difficult to assess my rating! Nevertheless, in spite of my initial difficulty getting started, I am very pleased with myself and greatly encouraged 😀

At my rate, it would take about 7 hours to complete 5000 cycles to become a Tantric Master 😆 I guess I'll be happy with that 😆

Here’s a technique you’ll enjoy: with the end cap removed, place your middle finger all the way into the opening. As you reverse thrust with your penis, withdraw your finger a little to create a lot more suction. On the forward thrust, move your finger all the way in and stimulate the tip of your penis inside the STU with the tip of your finger for a moment before the next cycle.

By the way, EMD is terrific with the STU. Do everything the same as for regular EMD, with Aneros, not forgetting the PC muscle contractions (which are actually a part of the original MD exercise), but just keep the STU pressed down against the pubic bone, rocking it a little to massage the pubic bone area. Perhaps we should call this the Stamina Extended Male Deer (SEMD) exercise. Aneros and Fleshlight together make for the most incredibly intense genital workout, and the health benefits are awesome.

Life is wonderful; looking forward to your feedback guys.


   
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G.T.,

My feedback is that you are a stud! I mean that in the best way. I could never have done that. I am impressed that you put that much into it and still ended up not ejaculating.

I have used the move you mentioned about holding the unit up tight to your pubic bone and just being still. The cursing blood flow is enough to keep things going.

It sounds as though you have found yourself a great new toy.

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Just wondering if you are only stroking yourself with it or if you are f'ing it by sandwiching it between the box springs and mattress (my fav)?

Also, I will also applaud you for being able to hold out on ejaculating. I have also enjoyed "edging" for a couple weeks followed by an enormous ejaculation when I decided to turn loose. I don't personally enjoy that on a regular basis. I guess my thoughts are.... If I just smelled delicious food for two weeks, of course I would have the best meal of my life when I finally succumbed. (That's probably not an ideal analogy.) However, everyone had there own thing. I have about one day of edging a week. I personally would rather have several really good ejaculatory orgasms a week than one mind blowing ejaculation per month. Just my .02


   
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Many thanks guys for your compliments. I took last night off, needed to catch up on some sleep!

The only postures I tried were lying flat on my back, simulating woman on top, and sitting upright simulating woman sitting astride my lap facing me, which I consider the most intimate position of all for making love. For me, it's the difference between simply having sex which of course is tremendously thrilling, and making love which is heaven on earth.

For now I just want to simulate and practice making love for hours on end.

By the way, I just read in Mantak Chia's "The Multi-orgasmic Man" that we should pause and let our erection subside about every twenty minutes to recharge with fresh blood. This is definitely worth noting for all stamina trainees.


   
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GrandTiger - great to hear that you enjoyed the STU (how could you NOT enjoy it? hehe). I am also amazed that you could hold off cumming completely, especially when you were so charged up about using it, etc. - yikes. 😯 ❗ What I find amazing about the STU is that being inside it and NOT moving is almost harder to do than hold off with it moving - if you re on the edge then every heartbeat and pulse makes those nodules do their job even more. You are going to love it when you finally decide to cum inside the STU - that is the most intense part about the STU to me - it's hard to keep stroking while cumming because it feels so good.


   
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it's hard to keep stroking while cumming because it feels so good.

ummm.... it's hard for me not to scream when cumming inside the FL... and I'm not typically a screamer!


   
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it's hard to keep stroking while cumming because it feels so good.

ummm.... it's hard for me not to scream when cumming inside the FL... and I'm not typically a screamer!

LOL - I know what you mean - it makes my brain melt


   
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But you sure feel spent afterward. Too bad that can't be similar to an intense Aneros session.

The clean up is a bitch too. Sometimes you have to work for your fun.


   
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But you sure feel spent afterward. Too bad that can't be similar to an intense Aneros session.

The clean up is a bitch too. Sometimes you have to work for your fun.

clean up is not that hard - you have to clean up after aneros use, also. 😉


   
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Survived another awesome hour of stamina training. I know for sure that if I were to cum, it would be of such great magnitude that it would take days for me to recover. Prostate massages help re-absorption which provides more stamina and also reduces the risk of wasting one's self in a wet dream. Continuing this way keeps me energized to enjoy it all the more. And the pleasure is out of this world 😀


   
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But you sure feel spent afterward. Too bad that can't be similar to an intense Aneros session.

The clean up is a bitch too. Sometimes you have to work for your fun.

clean up is not that hard - you have to clean up after aneros use, also. 😉

I usually just run hot water through it. Then I just pour rubbing alcohol through it. Then I turn each end inside out and dab with a paper towel to dry it.

The reason I use alcohol is because I have heard there is a risk for mold/mildew. Alcohol will dry out any water left behind. I have this concern because I only use the FL once every week or two. If I used it several times a week I probably wouldn't use alcohol since it would be getting cleaned on a more regular basis.

Also, as mentioned earlier. Rubbing it down (inside and out) with cornstarch is a good idea if you don't want to use alcohol.

@GrandTiger - I know you are just getting use to your STU, but in the future (if you would like to try out another girl.. ha, ha) I still recommend the WonderWave fleshlight. I also recommend getting the ICE and clear case since it is see through. I think it is sometimes a turn on to be able to like at the FL during my session and see my penis while it is inside the FL. Kinda cool.


   
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for the first time today...i was having a progasm session...and decided to get out my pink lady wonderwave FL and hit it instead of having a superT ...shit...with the progasm in me fucking the lady i didn't last 8 minutes..lol 😈


   
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Hey Grand Tiger! How's it going with that Fleshlight? I took a page from your book and used the Fleshlight (STU) today during my Aneros session. Originally, my thought was that I would end with it but as time marched by, I was having such an intense time that I opted to do the "Grand Tiger" approach and see how long I could last and STILL not come. I was at it for a solid hour and thought that I had better stop. Talk about blue balls!

Anyway, I am a stud now.

All these new adventures!


   
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