Gear and Gummies.

I can definitely see that if you are a person that can already reliably achieve a Super-O sober THC may not be of value. I have yet to achieve that but I can tell that I've been making progress in that direction. Currently it's like a light switch for me. I take the first 15-20 minutes of a session to get acclimated to the first tool, usually the EST, during which I don't feel much. As soon as I hit the really low dose it's like an awakening. The diffused pleasure that I feel amps up in seconds and I'm off to pleasure town. I'm really hopeful that I'll cross over to the ability to feel the same without though...

@reddog152 

Posted by: @reddog152

I can definitely see that if you are a person that can already reliably achieve a Super-O sober THC may not be of value.

To be fair here,I was warned by a friend that it may not provide much level up if you’re ‘already up’. I suppose if you’ve unlocked a lot of the puzzle by yourself,thc’s Skelton key isn’t needed,I don’t know.

Posted by: @reddog152

As soon as I hit the really low dose it's like an awakening. The diffused pleasure that I feel amps up in seconds and I'm off to pleasure town.

When I read this I realised,this is where I’ve been for a long time. When i trained A-Less in earlier days,I posted about trying to stream-line the operation down to being in and out In 20-30 mins. I did it aswell.I’m sure I read a comment here once that it took 45mins to make a super-o. And many posts cite sessions of 3 hrs long. Fuck that I thought,i haven’t got time for shenanigans like that. So many a time,if I had even a spare 10 mins,I’d flip down and do my trick. I didn’t need prior arousal,just run through the motions. 

When you say the dose switches it on and things amp up,that just how an A-Less session works for me. P-waves start in seconds on I’m on my way. 
Anchored Tension + Contractions = Pleasure + Rhythm = Orgasm. I’m sure that’s some sort of science 🙂 

Posted by: @helghast

... hooked me up with some thc Sativa gummies. After 2 and 4 mg sessions, I’m sorry to report that unless I took too little, it didn’t really do shit for me. I did feel the ‘chill out’ part, but it didn’t really add anything to my session pleasure-wise, other than i went longer because it made me not want to stop.

It doesn't surprise me that you didn't feel much from the 4mg. dosage. That's really at the micro/mini-dose level. you should start feeling more of an effect at the 8-10mg. dosage level but I wouldn't recommend going beyond 15mg. dosing as that will get you really stoned and probably out of a comfortable psychological 'control' zone. IMHO, moderation is really key to making cannabis work for you and not taking you into disquieting psychological states which may be counterproductive to the learning process.

Good Vibes to You!

@rumel 

Posted by: @rumel

That's really at the micro/mini-dose level. you should start feeling more of an effect at the 8-10mg.

Microdosing was the goal. I was advised to start small at 2 mg then go to 4mg.I thought this was a micro dose. Sounds like one lol I just binned it off after the 4mg. I did feel effects,but nothing life changing. I felt a bit heavy on my feet so to speak. But not a lot was added to the season. Maybe I’ll just take 10 and see what happens.

Posted by: @helghast

@rumel 

Posted by: @rumel

That's really at the micro/mini-dose level. you should start feeling more of an effect at the 8-10mg.

Microdosing was the goal. I was advised to start small at 2 mg then go to 4mg.I thought this was a micro dose. Sounds like one lol I just binned it off after the 4mg. I did feel effects,but nothing life changing. I felt a bit heavy on my feet so to speak. But not a lot was added to the season. Maybe I’ll just take 10 and see what happens.

I vape my THC so I have no way of knowing what dose I'm getting with any precision. With my current favorite strain I know that a full lung drag with a full hold will get me way too high for comfort. I've settled on about a one second of drag time with a long hold and that puts me in the zone without tripping into the "Ooo, I wish I hadn't done that, when am I going to come down, oh look, an alien!"  zone. Haha 

I can definitely feel the stress drain from my body though and I think that's the key for me.

Posted by: @helghast

Microdosing was the goal. I was advised to start small at 2 mg then go to 4mg. I thought this was a micro dose.

It was a micro-dose and the advice to start small and work your way up is, IMHO, the proper way to proceed. Jumping in with large doses is a sure way to induce uncomfortable psychological states that can throw you off a good path forward.

Posted by: @helghast

I did feel effects,but nothing life changing. I felt a bit heavy on my feet so to speak. But not a lot was added to the season. Maybe I’ll just take 10 and see what happens.

 

In my opinion it is not good to expect something life changing if you are simply seeking to enhance your Anerosession. I think increasing to 8mg will probably show you what you want to see, remember the intent is simply to allow you to get into a more relaxed state, without as much 'mind noise'. Cannabis or any drug for that matter isn't going to be a panacea for any problem you may be having but it can slightly alter your mental perspective and allow you to see new insights and perhaps new behaviors to explore as you grow in life.

Dealing with psychotropic substances has to be done carefully to avoid adverse effects. Pay attention to your 'set & setting' and go slow with small doses. These substances can have powerful effects and are not suitable for everyone but they can lead you into significant personal growth and healing.

Good Vibes to You!

@reddog152 

Posted by: @reddog152

I've settled on about a one second of drag time with a long hold and that puts me in the zone without tripping into the "Ooo, I wish I hadn't done that, when am I going to come down, oh look, an alien!"  zone. Haha 

That was the plan with the dosage lol 🙂

Posted by: @rumel

In my opinion it is not good to expect something life changing if you are simply seeking to enhance your Anerosession

I wasn’t expecting anything and ‘it wasn’t life changing’ was just a turn of phrase to highlight that it didn’t appear to add much other than a bit of chill and maybe extension of session time. I suppose I felt like I could just lie there all day. Maybe I’ll have another go at a higher dosage.

@helghast I'm surprised you felt anything with 2-4mg of edible thc. I would use an indica, not a sativa, since the idea is to relax. Yes, micro-dosing can be very fruitful, but it sounds like you had 1 micro dose, and that was it. On thc I've been able to have hands-free, device-free ejaculatory orgasms simply by focusing on erotic material (though I prefer to use an aneros and hope for a Super O). The hands free wet orgasms are surprising, and they feel good, but it's still just a penile orgasm.

I've been using thc with my aneros sessions for ~2 years, and it certainly amplifies a session. I would typically smoke/vape like normal, and slowly get myself into the mood. Once inserted and involved in a session I would continue to take thc to keep the feeling fresh.

Most recently, I've been taking 250-300mg indica in the form of a liquid. 350mg was way too much for me, and resulted in what felt like a near-death experience. However, I've had friends who would eat 900mg indica in the form of gummies... it all depends on your tolerance.  Based on this particular product, the dose is right about a shot glass full. I swish it around in my mouth, then swallow, and in about 20-30 minutes I'm in mindgasm land. I'll turn on some binaural beats or isochronic tones audio, some good mesmerizing/entrancing/hypnotizing porn, and simply relax and focus for 2+ hours. Of course you need to have the privacy, the time, and the comfortable location to make this possible, but there is no better way to end your day than with a strong dose of green and an aneros (helix syn trident works for me).

@sdj2020 

Posted by: @sdj2020

I'm surprised you felt anything with 2-4mg of edible thc. I would use an indica, not a sativa, since the idea is to relax.

That was the initial advice I got about micro dosing. 

Posted by: @sdj2020

On thc I've been able to have hands-free, device-free ejaculatory orgasms simply by focusing on erotic material (though I prefer to use an aneros and hope for a Super O).

I have super-o with or without toys with proficiency whilst sober,HFWO too,but that’s more of an on-demand thing from the wife.  When I started my journey,I trained A-Less,learned the toys later. 
After a spate of posts/comments about weed,thc and microdose,i thought I’d try it to see if it added anything is all,to see what all the hype was.

I’ll try up to 10 maybe but hundreds of milligrams is not something I’ll ever be interested in I’m afraid.

@helghast

Posted by: @helghast

I’ll try up to 10 maybe but hundreds of milligrams is not something I’ll ever be interested in I’m afraid.

 

300mg of thc can be found in little more than 1 gram of flower, or 1 joint - it's not an uncommon dose by any means. If I wasn't a common user, I might try 100mg to get a good buzz, but I wouldn't expect much of anything using 5 or 10mg.

@sdj2020 

Respectfully, even 100 mg active THC is crazy for anyone just trying cannabis for the first time. I used around 100mg dry flower for my sessions. At 25% active THC (strong stuff!), and with a very conservative 40% lost to combustion, that's only 15mg active THC left and it's enough to be too strong some times. Even half that is a serious boost to a session. And this was with regular use. 

I would never recommend anyone to start with more than 6 times what I use in my own sessions... Some people will respond strongly to what would be laughably low doses for others, it's just the nature of the beast.

It's much better to start low and slow then it is to end up with a panic attack or green-out situation until one knows how THC or even certain particular strains will hit them. 

I think @Helghast has the right idea here, its just going to take him a bit more time to get where he wants to go, if he decides to stick with it. 

@SDJ2020 & @Helghast, I think it is important to note that the body metabolizes THC differently when smoked/vaped versus ingestion. When ingested the Δ9-THC is metabolized in the liver and is converted into 11-hydroxy-Δ9-THC, a more potent psychotropic compound, some estimates say more than ten times as potent. Thus when talking dosage amounts you must take into account the method of consumption, it's an apples vs. oranges comparison. Please see Cannabis Efficacy: Inhalation vs. Ingestion. Additionally onset of effects is much slower and longer lasting in the case of ingestion. There are other significant factors which can affect effects as well such as the source of the THC and if it is also combined with other canabinoids and terpenes.

Good Vibes to You!

@zentai Surely different people experience different effects. All I know is what I've seen/experienced/done/observed others do.

Yes, the right way is always starting low, and moving up. I used to get gummies that were 100mg each. Taking 3 of those gummies sent me on a good one, but I've known friends who would eat 9 (900mg thc) and just go about their day.

I've seen plenty of people who suggest 5mg doses, but IMO if you're even a casual thc user this is nowhere near sufficient. Let's just say 50mg is where I start to feel effects.

The best piece of advice I can give is to not experiment until you have nothing left to accomplish in your day, and no one depending on you for anything. Worst thing that will happen is you'll be paranoid and worthless as a human for a few hours.

Everyone has to find his own dose and preferred method!

Posted by: @sdj2020

Surely different people experience different effects. All I know is what I've seen/experienced/done/observed others do.

Yes ! I did not intend to downplay your experience or disagree with your take on things. 

I would not want someone who has never been in contact with THC to make a rough calculation and conclude that smoking an entire pre-rolled joint from the local store is the right way to kickstart their session, because it has "only" 50 mg total THC. Small numbers can come with big effects. 

My main advice would be not to use THC in any form until you're well acquainted with sober Super-Os, but I know that people will try anyway for a variety of reasons, and I really can't fault them, so my more realistic advice is to try to find the lowest effective dose and stick with it. 

Posted by: @sdj2020

The best piece of advice I can give is to not experiment until you have nothing left to accomplish in your day, and no one depending on you for anything.

This is also great advice ! 

Maybe I’ll have a couple more go’s with stepped up dose’s. Maybe the weed thing just won’t work for me because I’m already such a happy bastard 🙂

@sdj2020 you’re talking about psychologically dangerous amounts of thc for non initiated users. 100mg ingested is huge. I am a super lightweight and never ingest  over 2mg in a sitting and 5mg in a day, or one or two small puffs of a pipe, and I don’t by any means claim to know the amount others need. I however I know regular users who never go over 10-20mg in a sitting.  Anyone who is new to thc like helghast ought to try incrementally augmenting the dose, 2-5mg at a time, if indeed they do want to push the limits (and it seems like he doesn’t care to, which is fine).

i have had about 4 truly bad trips in my life, and they were all due to ingesting marijuana (I regularly use other psychedelics). Marijuana, like many psychotropic drugs, is unpredictable in terms of effect from one individual to the next. Each person needs to explore bit by bit on their own or risk suffering traumatic experiences.

@divine_o  I concurr on the most part. I have been smoking pot for 50yrs. Have tried gummies recently, most I've done is 30mg and I thought that was to much. Although I don't like the gummie stone. What I like about smoking is you can decide when youv'e had enough. Currently I am vaping more than smoking. 

Don’t worry boys,I won’t be taking any big hits,I’ll creep up another bit,and if it’s not working,I’ll bum the weed. 

I came on here oddly enough looking for a thread like this. 

I'm typically not a big fan of THC.  I smoked a bit over the years but nothing consistent.  I haven't had any in about 7 years.  Something came up in my personal life where I started considering it, and now a family member has pushed me to give it a try.  I figured.. Might as well also add it to a session and see what happens.

I'll come back with the results.  I'm not using the high dosage some of you are talking about though.

I’ve had a couple more sessions with higher doses,more heaviness and calm etc not really adding anything to sessions,so I’m binning the weed,it’s not for me. It makes me less motivated to do things outside of a session. Fuck that lol.

@rumel I like 25 mg HHC gummies from  3CHI.

Just tried HHC  as I discovered it is legal in France (or not yet illegal, rather). Bought it yesterday in the form of oil, gradually incremented drops on my tongue throughout the evening to test the effects. It was exceptionally weak, and I must have had 15mg in the end, testing the limits. Just made me very sleepy and poorly coordinated, without much mental high relative to THC. Had a session, it was fun, with spectacular orgasms, but im not fully convinced given the lethargy it brought on outside of the sessions. I will buy a vape pen of 95% HHC extract this weekend, because the vendor said that it is much closer to a THC high. Apparently there is controversy about the purity of extraction for these newly exploited molecules (ie trace amounts of butane or other in the extract, which is nasty when smoked), but I imagine for someone like me who will toke once a month, it oughta be fine… to be seen!

Back to report...  It did nothing.  15mg.

@nat same. Just some ‘sedation’ lol

There's a difference between edibles and smoking. When you eat THC it gets processed by the liver into something other than what you'd get from smoking. Supposedly edibles are a more psychedelic experience. I don't have a lot of specifics to hand, but I think people are treating edibles as a more health-conscious alternative to smoking, but it isn't necessarily the same thing to begin with.

But of course the question is: If THC super-charged your sessions, would you ever find a reason to stop using it? An experiment might become a bell you can't un-ring very easily.

 I personally don't like edibles , the high is totally different from smoking. What I like about smoking is I can choose exactly how high I want to get, just put the joint /vape/pipe down. With edibles you can't do that, and as I recently found out first hand when I ended up much higher than I expected to be.

Posted by: @clenchy

But of course the question is: If THC super-charged your sessions, would you ever find a reason to stop using it? An experiment might become a bell you can't un-ring very easily.

I think it is possible to separate experiences into categories of sober and not sober sex, with each impacting the other positively.  I am just a case study, but I have plenty of experience with sex on mdma and on psychedelics (separately). It is wild. Take sex on mdma as an example.  It is like having an orgasm for 5 hours straight, with actual orgasms being magnitudes greater.  Normal sex is often less intense in many ways, both in overall duration and in the length of peaks (though for me a peak is a peak is a peak, be it high or sober). But I don’t take mdma more than 4 times a year. Is it because I know the dangers of abuse and the inherent diminishing of returns involved in overuse? Probably. But also I assimilate these drug-fueled fuck frenzies as fodder for future drug-free fun. They nourish my sober sex-life as opposed to creating something frustratingly unattainable without drugs.

My partners agree with me on this. I have had maybe 6-7 partners with whom I have taken psychedelics or mdma, and none of them got bored of sex without drugs, or felt they couldn’t reach the same highs without drugs.  Maybe this is just chance.  Or maybe there are other factors involved.  I mean, myself and all these women were already highly sexual to begin with, and none of us had highly addictive personalities.  So while I am not saying that some people fall into drug/sex addiction, I am saying it is very possible not to.

One side note, THC is probably the safest drug to get addicted to with relation to sex. Plenty of folk get addicted to much more potentially dangerous drugs in relation to sex: meth, speed, cathonines, mdma… 

Well I’ve binned the weed off,high on life is good enough for me.Plus,it was killing my motivation to train,and that’s like the sky falling in for me 🙂