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Just had to put write this up based on amazing lessons learnt today. So, for several days my girlfriend and I have not had sex. Whilst she'd offered me blowjobs I had declined because I was enjoying the Aless orgasms I described in my post "The Myth of the Super Orgasm".


This heightened arousal and sensitivity made it super easy to slip into Aless. Well, the morning of the night where I woke up next to her in orgasm and felt like I was her, we had sex. (so yesterday morning).


So, with my load well and truly busted I thought it would be interesting to see whether I would be able to so easily slip into
arousal and Aless dry orgasm or would I have to wait a while to build up my "sensitivity" again.


After working all day I went for a run to clear my head. After I finished I had a shower and, as an experiment I decided
to massage my anus, balls and cock with the shower head. After a minute of this gently running the jet over my balls, lower shaft
and anus and just relaxing I started to feel some sexual stirrings. Combined with some nipple rubbing I had a great "super" orgasm (aka dry orgasm).


Wow I thought! Same day of ejaculation and very easy to drop into Aless orgasm. Cool!


So, after an evening spent eating dinner and watching tv I went to bed.


Now, if you've read my "myth of super orgasm" post you'll know that at bed time I've discovered that by lying in a certain way that puts pressure on my penis and by gently thinking about sexual things I can have a "super" orgasm (dry orgasm).


Well I thought I'd give it a go that night as well. So, the session started well but for whatever reason it wasn't happening for me. My cock was
getting hard but there was none of the normal pleasure in my perinium that accompanies my erections on the way to super orgasm. It was like I was getting hard physically but my heart wasn't really in the arousal.


So, what did I do. How did I, man able to have consistant super orgasms overcome this challenge?


I gave up, went to bed and went to sleep.


Yep.


I trusted my body that there was a reason that it wouldn't give me what I wanted right now.


I was confident that it would open the gates up soon when it was ready too. It needed some respite.


So, sleep and woke up this morning.


Shower before work, thought I'd try to have a super o in the shower like I did yesterday after my run.


This time I made some makeshift nipple suction devices out of a small hotel shower bottle.


Cue shower stream on balls, cock and asshole and some mild fantasy.


Same thing as last night. A little bit of arousal but not really happening. It would start and then drop off.


So, what did I do. Man of consistant super orgasms?


Gave up, got out of shower got dressed and started work.


THERE'S A REASON I'M DOING THIS AND HOW IT WILL HELP YOU IF YOU ARE STRUGGLING


You see, everytime you stimulate youself and don't ejaculate you are building your "arousal bank account".


You can't feel it but each time you do it you are opening those vault doors to arousal an extra inch. You still
can't get completely inside but it's getting easier each time you stimulate yourself.


So, I go about my daily work.


When I get some private moments I think sexual thoughts or look at sexual images. I stimulate my nipples as well.


I'm NOT feeling very aroused all day. Sure some drips here and there but I feel a bit numb when thinking sexual
thoughts or looking at erotica.


If you were doing this you would think you were failing and it was a waste of time. But, I have complete faith in my
body now to get me to orgasm so I just let go and trust.


So I finish work and I retire to my private spot in the house. My arousal has been up for only a few seconds at a time
during the day before dropping off again. I have no connection with my genitals at this point and I'm quite in my head.


I lie down on my sofa and decide to give myself some more stimulation. I'm not trying to orgasm at this point I know I'm
just gently helping my body to wake up. I'm thinking that I'm going to start having Aless in about 24 hours time.


So, leaving my top on I pull down my pants and gently massage my pubic region.
I admire my cock. Its wonderfully unblemished perfectly sized and pretty veiny. Whilst I'm not attracted to men, I do find
my cock beautiful to look at.


As I gently massage my balls and stroke the skin under my pubic hair I lift up my top and expose my nipples. I grab the
makeshift nipple suction and stick it on my right nipple.


It feels nice but again, I'm not expecting to orgasm. I'm just stimulating myself to help my body open the arousal door a little
bit so I can start having Aless sessions again sooner rather than later.



BUT, even though I DID NOT FEEL IT at the time, my arousal door had already opened THANKS TO the non outcome dependent stimualation
of last night, this morning and all day.


After 5 minutes of gently massaging myself I take off my nipple suction and start playing with my nipple.


My cock is already hard and I look down at it as I lie in a half seated position on the sofa.


I take my finger and I lightly hold the side of it against the very tip of my nipple and then roll it around and around in a medium speed circular
motion. Like my nipple was a tiny piece of dough and I was rolling it into a ball.


I keep the speed consistant and admire my cock. It looks beautiful and all veiny.


SUDDENLY THE CONNECTION COMES BACK.


   
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Instead of just having a hard cock because I'm being stimulated physically my cock is hard because I'm actually getting aroused.


I can feel the feelings of excitement in my lower belly.


All that gentle stimulation over the last 24 hours has woken me up again.


Looking down at my cock I start to imagine its being pleasured by a woman.


I keep my PC muscles and body relaxed as I lie back and just continue to roll my nipple around in small, consistant and circular motions.


I can feel it building. The pressure in my penis.


Then, the tingling feeling in the slit as it starts to feel like I'm leaking precum. I'm looking down at my cock and its bone dry.


The excitement in my belly is building. Cold waves of arousal and excitement start to emanate from my belly button in bursts.


The pressure in my cock is building and building, it feels so wet and delicious and it feels like I'm going to ejaculate.


I feel my penis straining and then throbbing as the intensity builds and builds. I'm so excited and then BOOM.


The "super" (dry) orgasm hits me.


My first nipple only INTENSE dry orgasm.


I'm gasping "Jesus Christ" in shock and I just enjoy this orgasm as it goes on for about a minute.


I lie there shaking afterwards. I start to build to another but my girlfriend comes home. Whilst she knows about all this
(and I told her about this nipple orgasm over dinner), I didn't really want to be doing it in front of her.


I can still feel the after-effects now (5 hours later!). So, my point is - if you aren't getting somewhere in a session (aneros or aless) then if you've given it a good try and still nothing is happening then STOP. Come back to it later. And if it doesn't happen then, then STOP and come back to it later.


How long to leave it before calling a session quits? If you start getting frustrated then stop. Of course if you are getting frustrated
after 5 minutes then you need to be a LOT more patient.


This sessions aren't FAILED. They work to help you access the state of arousal and dry orgasm.


So, stop trying to force it if it ain't happening and just come back to it later. As you go about your day try to periodically think about sexual things or stimulate yourself sexually. REMEMBER - the goal isn't to orgasm from this stimulation but to just help you get back in touch with your arousal so that during your next session (or the session after that) you are able to slip into dry orgasm arousal and have a "successful" session.


   
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Once again so similar to my own experiences, even down to the thoughts when looking at my cock etc, nipple in tandem but the difference for me is that I tense my legs, it seems natural, and my cock swells and I ejacualte.

But I've been through exactly what you have, just not the dry orgasm (except once where I had 2 dry and 3 ejaculatory orgasms in quick succession using a dildo, see my blog for more info on that one)

Remember I would always say that with each of my aneros sessions it would get more intense until I would get a good session at the end of a roughly 7 day period? This is what your describing in your "arousal bank account"


   
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Once again so similar to my own experiences, even down to the thoughts when looking at my cock etc, nipple in tandem but the difference for me is that I tense my legs, it seems natural, and my cock swells and I ejacualte.

But I've been through exactly what you have, just not the dry orgasm (except once where I had 2 dry and 3 ejaculatory orgasms in quick succession using a dildo, see my blog for more info on that one)

Remember I would always say that with each of my aneros sessions it would get more intense until I would get a good session at the end of a roughly 7 day period? This is what your describing in your "arousal bank account"

If you don't want to wait 7 days for your "bank account" to fill up then try and spend as much time as possible each day thinking sexual thoughts, stimulating yourself sexually (for example nipple rubbing or perinium play) and general sensuality.

It seems to me to not really be related to arousal levels per se but ones ability to be connected to the river of sensuality that always flows through you.

Like, its always there but you can sometimes be disconnected from it so you need to "reconnect" to it so to speak.


   
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I've not been feeling it lately, a drop in arousal, might be tiredness...

Anyways I recall a series of days where I was filming myself during sessions and all I would have to do is play with nipples and get hard, I would feel aless feelings so amazing... Just wow. If I do it now, nothing. It seemed to be the build up over many days, I did varying techniques in my aneros sessions i between as well, including tug o war with the helix, which was lovely.

The way I look at it is like this; you can't always be Horney, but when you build it up over a period of days (in my case) you find that you feel more, you can sense more in your prostate With less effort required to achieve it.

I wish I had read your posts years ago, because I didn't and because I was told repeatedly my penis being erect was something to ignore or not focus on it held me back. I'm finding great pleasure when my cock is harder than steel, but I have a hang up about it when it does get stiff even now during sessions.

I also would compare dry orgasms in context with my ejacualtions, which are far more intense, always have been. One things I've always wanted to ask you Neros is this: when you got your dry orgasm which you call intense, for how long could it be described this way? 5 mins? Or like an ejaculatory orgasm it has a begging and end and you can identify when it peaks. Or, was it a 'continuous' orgasm


   
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If you don't want to wait 7 days for your "bank account" to fill up then try and spend as much time as possible each day thinking sexual thoughts, stimulating yourself sexually (for example nipple rubbing or perinium play) and general sensuality.

It seems to me to not really be related to arousal levels per se but ones ability to be connected to the river of sensuality that always flows through you.

Like, its always there but you can sometimes be disconnected from it so you need to "reconnect" to it so to speak.

Be careful, sounds like the route to overdoing it and addiction. I wouldn't recommand it.


   
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I disagree cancan, my best sessions are when I've had many sessions and thoughts over previous days, it's almost like the more I do it the more sensitive I am making my prostate and the more receptive to pleasure it becomes.


   
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@inhope (in comment to first message)
Seems like you have learned a very valuable lesson here.

See, the idea was expressed here already, but one has to experience it by himself before it makes sense.

I hope your journey goes on smoothly from now on.


   
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I disagree cancan, my best sessions are when I've had many sessions and thoughts over previous days, it's almost like the more I do it the more sensitive I am making my prostate and the more receptive to pleasure it becomes.

We are not disagreeing on that. Not what I was saying to Neros.


   
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@inhope (in comment to first message)
Seems like you have learned a very valuable lesson here. See, the idea was expressed here already, but one has to experience it by himself before it makes sense.

Like from the matrix: "there is a difference between knowing the path and walking the path"

In regard to lessons learned, not really? Only because I already knew that, it's just be restated here by Neros.

in regards to your second question, sorry I don't follow? What were you saying to him then? (Sorry if I've misunderstood) Remember my post recently? I had a two week hiatus and returned to aneros sessions, it was poor if you recall.... Then after s few days of looking at images, thinking thoughts, playing with nipples etc I find I am having good sessions again.


   
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@Inhope
The rule that seems to apply now may change in the future. But your discovery of how build up feels, works in the long run and how at times it goes unoticed holds deep truths in it.


   
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@inhope
Oops, did you edit your message ?
If you edit your message while I answer it I am afraid the conversation will make very little sense. (Well, okay, I tend to add a few stuff afterwards myself LOL)

Regarding your matrix quote, you don't really know the path until you actually walk it.

Regarding my warning Neros, don't take for you what I thought I had to tell him.


   
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@neros
By the way, forgot to congratulate you on the effort you put into writing down all this and trying to clarify some issues we've seen people having quite often.


   
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@Inhope
The rule that seems to apply now may change in the future. But your discovery of how build up feels, works in the long run and how at times it goes unoticed holds deep truths in it.

That's true, things change. Do you find that too? Has it ever changed so much that you have 'lost' it?


   
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@inhope
It changed so much since begining it is barely recognizable if at all.

But the rule of something building up (let's call it energy) and finding its way out one way or another (through either tension, pain, temperature rising high, spasms, ejaculation, orgasm, high bliss, buzzing, twitching, electric choc, irresistible itching, physical reflex, physical exercice, dizzy head, dream state, hilarity, yawning, deep stretching or whatever else)... And the more the rise and release are welcomed in a relaxed and happy way the more rewarding they become (up to transforming into totally new and unexpected things).

Anyway, no technique nor session pattern stayed for any long.


   
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@Neros, good ideas. I have no trouble getting unbidden arousing thoughts through the day usually LOL. This is normal for most men. But sometimes I just am not in the mood or forget. I chatted with guys here about what I call a pleasure credit, a promise of future pleasure earned from long absences from riding or sex but that's not the same as your " bank". My credit is more like debt and frustration and yours is more like wealth building. 🙂

So I'm thinking yours is a good technique for building arousal for a session a day or so in advance.


   
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I've made a discovery, i hope its not just me that this relates to but i want to share in case others have this issue.

I seem to not be understanding my arousal 'type'. I can feel horny all the time, often this is the case, but there are times when I'm not the 'right kind of horney' for an aneros session.

What i mean by this is that I'm either in a normal state arousal or i am in a MMO state of arousal, the latter where i feel i prolong the pleasure in my sessions. The former just wants to orgasm, in whatever way possible, it is uncaring, demanding and highly impatient. For me it results in me having no control over myself and i end up ejaculating and then later feeling annoyed that i have given in.

Its part down to house availability, i build up excitement because i get made aware of when i rarely get to be on my own and have a session, so there is pressure to make good use of the time. If i get nowhere in an aneros session then because of this pressure i *have* to go off and masturbate.

Then the times where i know I'm ready for an aneros session, it is the antithesis of this. I am patient, super aroused but in a different way i cannot describe. I recall a week when i was left alone for that time and it was the best week, because i had an aneros session when i was ready and NOT when i had the small window of opportunity to do so.

The problem i have is that i am really unable to distinguish between the two, usually when I'm 10 mins into an aneros session do i know. It is quite the torment at times! I remember the words in the wiki, at least vaguely: "you need to be 100% before having an aneros session" i think thats what i am not.


   
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