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Do things become more intense with practice/use? Got new Helix trident


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Just joined and happy to be here!

I got a Helix trident this week and I've used it twice.  It's a lot of fun! I was skeptical but given what I've read and seen in videos I had to try it.  The first time was just a quick 20 minute "What does this feel like" thing.  That was fun, I got some hip bucking and trembles so I was looking forward to a longer session.  I was clenching from the beginning, didn't have time to really relax

I had my second session, 75 minutes, tonight and it seemed to be more of the same.  It was perhaps a bit more intense and the trembles shaking went on for a longer period of time.  I spent time relaxing and I was on my back most of the time (side didn't seem to do much for me) and sometimes I'd draw my legs up to my chest and there was serious uncontrollable trembling in my limbs when I did so.  Lots of nipple stimulation too (I can also get more mild trembling from just nipple play, I guess I'm wired!)

It was fun tonight, I enjoyed it but I didn't seem to get waves of pleasure that I've read about really, the shaking and trembling was good and I'd zone out a bit while it happened (got a bit vocal too)... but it wasn't like what I get with a penile orgasm at all.

I'll keep going with it and look forward to it but I was wondering from you Aneros veterans out there does the intensity increase with practice?  We all want the Super O and I know to be patient but I'm wondering if I should do anything differently to increase the intensity, get the P waves that I've read about (didn't really feel much in the prostate, it just affected my body as I said above).  The conventional wisdom is that prostate orgasms are much more intense than ejaculatory orgasms.  I'm not sure if I had a prostate orgasm or not but I was convulsing uncontrollably for what seemed like a minute or more at times.

Thanks for any info.

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You’re just getting started on the journey! Don’t expect immediate results and learn to feel the pleasure within as you learn relaxing, breathing exercises, and muscle control. Read and study the materials presented and before you realize it, you will enjoy the pleasure to be had! Don’t be afraid to ask questions! A lot of the journey is mental and rewiring to a new adventure!


   
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@fred27 Thanks Fred!  Yeah it's a journey for sure.  I guess I'm impatient, but I think a lot of people are, they expect prostate play to be like regular penile masturbation, it ain't... (I've already figured that out!)  A few questions:

1.  One thing that may have dampened things a bit, I had a couple of big beers beforehand (was out with friends) and was more buzzed than I wanted to be when I did my session.  Maybe it was too much?  I've heard one drink to help relax is good but more is probably not better.

2.  Is it recommended to use porn during a session or no?  The first short session I did I had some porn and it was good.  The second longer session I wanted to just relax and focus and minimized any external stimuli... maybe some erotic audio going on would have been good?

3. I've done a lot of anal play before, and I'm wondering if a bigger toy (Maximus) might help?  But I've heard bigger isn't necessarily better... the MGX seems pretty small but gets rave reviews.

For now I'll stick with the Helix I think and just go into each session with no expectations and just let things happen as best I can.  I think I need to work on breathing too... I didn't do any of the synced/deep breathing techniques, sounds like that might help a lot


   
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Glad to have you here ! 

Regarding alcohol, the best amount for me is 0, it just numbs things too much, but I'm also a lightweight. Nicotine is also a big no-no as it reduces blood flow and prostate feelings (I'm a non-smoker). These are both individual things, I also remember hearing people having a glass of wine to wind down before a session, so you'll have to see what works for you. 

Porn has ups and down, it can boost arousal, but it can also move your focus away from your body, and it also sets a bit of a pace depending on the progression in the movie or clip. This pace might not be exactly what you want for your own buildup. Erotic audio can have similar pitfall but I prefer it to porn and use it quite often. Sometimes I'll have porn playing without sound and just take a peek form time to time, it seems to strike a good balance. 

Getting more models is up to you, they all work a bit differently and most guys end up finding a personal favorite, mine is the Eupho and it's the most slender of the bunch, and I hardly use the big Progasm anymore. This is also going to come down to experience and personal preferences. 


   
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Haven’t used beer or anything else to relax. Mind focus is important to achieving results - different things work for different people. Avoiding penile stimulation is important as you begin to rewire to prostate stimulation. Porn may or may not be a distraction for you. Size isn’t a factor usually but shape may affect the pleasure points like the prostate and anal area. Position is important as well - experiment with different positions to see what works for you. 


   
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@skibum welcome!! 
I think you had a great start and your prior experience with anal pleasure may have helped as well.  In my humble opinion, lesser the Drugs the better. And alcohol is also a drug.  Little THC works great but then there is a risk that you may get used to it. So better to do session without it in the beginning. 

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Welcome!  Yes, intensity increases with practice, or maybe better termed, "exposure".  Practice to me connotes effort and a direct cause & effect path.  Things more or less have to come to us- we stay open, for that to happen.  That is how intensity can increase.

I'm a little ambivalent about bucking and trembling.  If it happens, it happens, but it isn't the yardstick at the very beginning, it isn't something one would try for, necessarily.  Sometimes a-trembling in the glutes can help enliven other internal goings-on in the pelvic floor.  And gently rotating hips can direct the Aneros tip towards fresher, unawake directions.

I agree with all that was written before me.  Good luck, take it easy.  It's hard at first, being very excited about your new efforts.

 

 


   
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Glad to have you here ! 

Regarding alcohol, the best amount for me is 0, it just numbs things too much, but I'm also a lightweight. Nicotine is also a big no-no as it reduces blood flow and prostate feelings (I'm a non-smoker). These are both individual things, I also remember hearing people having a glass of wine to wind down before a session, so you'll have to see what works for you. 

Porn has ups and down, it can boost arousal, but it can also move your focus away from your body, and it also sets a bit of a pace depending on the progression in the movie or clip. This pace might not be exactly what you want for your own buildup. Erotic audio can have similar pitfall but I prefer it to porn and use it quite often. Sometimes I'll have porn playing without sound and just take a peek form time to time, it seems to strike a good balance. 

Getting more models is up to you, they all work a bit differently and most guys end up finding a personal favorite, mine is the Eupho and it's the most slender of the bunch, and I hardly use the big Progasm anymore. This is also going to come down to experience and personal preferences. 

 

Thanks!  Yeah the alcohol was a limiting factor I think, and I'm kind of a lightweight myself!  I don't do any drugs at all and I don't smoke.  Good call on having some porn playing but no audio, just look over now and then for a little arousal boost!

 


   
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Welcome!  Yes, intensity increases with practice, or maybe better termed, "exposure".  Practice to me connotes effort and a direct cause & effect path.  Things more or less have to come to us- we stay open, for that to happen.  That is how intensity can increase.

I'm a little ambivalent about bucking and trembling.  If it happens, it happens, but it isn't the yardstick at the very beginning, it isn't something one would try for, necessarily.  Sometimes a-trembling in the glutes can help enliven other internal goings-on in the pelvic floor.  And gently rotating hips can direct the Aneros tip towards fresher, unawake directions.

I agree with all that was written before me.  Good luck, take it easy.  It's hard at first, being very excited about your new efforts.

 

 

Cool, that's what I was thinking, practice is not a great term, exposure is better.  I had it in for only a little while today and I did get some mild tingles in the prostate area... at least I think I did!

The bucking is interesting... I'll get some of that with just nipple play and I think its the same kind of thing.  I have to be lying down and relaxed for that to happen.  I'll get twitching/bucking and a very mild dry orgasm from nipple play.  Now I can get it to happen almost immediately.  I think it may be the same kind of thing with prostate play.  Getting there with nipple play took a little while and I'm sure getting big O's with the prostate play may take longer but the reward will be much greater!

 


   
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and I did get some mild tingles in the prostate area... at least I think I did!

Trust in your feelings.  Even if something is “fake pleasure” does it matter when you then were to grin from ear to ear?

 

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I'll get twitching/bucking and a very mild dry orgasm from nipple play.

It’s a great sign that you’re already aware of pleasure pathways other than penile, however mild they are at this point.

Keep your sensory awareness “radar” turning for whatever may be out there, whatever may appear.


   
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Tips I’ve found helpful. 

No alcohol. 
better in morning when freshest. 
not tired or unwell. 
relaxed. 
comfortable. 
porn is ok but read or watch something and then just concentrate on your session. Erotic thoughts are ok. 
don’t rush anything. 
it used to take me 1 to 2 hours. 
now 10 to 30 minutes usually suffices. 
nipple play definitely helps, but only as gas pedal. No need to exclusively look to nipple play as it’s a different ball game in a way. No pun intended. 

 


   
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Remember it’s a dry prostate orgasm. Unrelated to traditional orgasm. If this is not understood you’ll get nowhere. Tune into new special feelings and follow them. Certain things may help. Others may not. For instance I have very little success on my back but others do so exclusively. Isolate that special feeling and see how it leads. 


   
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In a way it’s intuitive. Different from what we’ve experienced since first learning the traditional way as teenagers!


   
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Tips I’ve found helpful. 

No alcohol. 
better in morning when freshest. 
not tired or unwell. 
relaxed. 
comfortable. 
porn is ok but read or watch something and then just concentrate on your session. Erotic thoughts are ok. 
don’t rush anything. 
it used to take me 1 to 2 hours. 
now 10 to 30 minutes usually suffices. 
nipple play definitely helps, but only as gas pedal. No need to exclusively look to nipple play as it’s a different ball game in a way. No pun intended. 

 

 

Great tips!  I've had a few minor sessions since my first 90 minute one, just to get some more exposure (maybe 15 minutes at a time), felt good but nothing major and I didn't expect anything major but I'm thinking if I get a bit of time to put the Helix in it's all good.

Had my second longer session this morning and things are definitely developing!  Last time I was buzzed on beer, that didn't help... this time I watched some porn beforehand and it helped but I didn't while I was using the Helix so I could focus.  

I tried a new position, on my stomach and that was really good, seemed to put a little more pressure on the prostate.  I mixed things up a bit and I found that on my back with legs straight out and on my stomach work best.  Some guys have good luck with being on their side... that didn't do nearly as much for me.

Someone on the forum suggested rolling your hips back and forth, that helped too, again a little more pressure on the prostate when I'm on my back and roll my hips down towards the bed.  

I definitely felt a feeling growing "warm glow" in my prostate this time and it was really nice.  I was able to go for about an hour.  Lots of shaking and trembling and the glow behind my cock.  I had to get going after an hour so I jacked and called it a session.  Still feel a nice warm feeling in there!

This is a journey and I feel like I'm making some pretty good progress.  Oh, one other thing, I was relaxed and put any expectations out of my mind and just went with it, that seems to work pretty well.

 

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Welcome.

Yes,things get better and more intense with practice and experience. Consistency and quiet resolve is key.

Yes,from what’s described,the prostate orgasm machinery fired up,but a lack of wiring will have meant that you didn’t know quite what you had. It will come.

No booze,porn may help or it may not. Just keep up the good work and don’t worry about new models just yet.

You’ve had a decent start,just chill and work session to session. 


   
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@skibum that sounds like good progress. Go with the flow 🙂


   
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OK so I had my first session in a while and I had to phone this one in... finally got hard and had the most intense session yet!

This is probably my fifth or sixth longer session (more than 10-15 minutes I can steal here and there) with my Helix trident.  One bonus, I was horny as hell, I think that helped. 

Things started like they usually do, relaxing, shaking and trembling on and off, it's fun but not orgasm intense.  Then I tried something new.  On my back with my legs drawn up, a bit of tension in my hips and even more trembles.  I'm usually soft when I have my sessions (last time I played with my cock and got semi hard but that was a mistake, it seemed to divert the energy, not what I wanted) but this got me hard:  I started bucking my hips, making my cock bounce quite a bit. Initially it was intentional but after a while it was involuntary.  

That motion really started to trigger something with my prostate.  It felt like the growing feeling when I have a penile orgasm... a swelling feeling and it felt like I was on the verge of ejaculating but I didn't and it continued off and on.  I had the most intense convulsions yet that went on for minutes like this.

I think I got close and can't wait for my next session!

Also, after shaking/trembling/convulsing/bucking almost continuously for an hour I was getting exhausted.  

This is great stuff!!!  Just had to share.

 


   
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@bill-bately Oh and yeah the nipple play helps but I seem to need/use it less and less. It is like a gas pedal, can help get things going but then it's less important.  Good call!


   
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@skibum concerning Aneros sizes. I’ve come to the conclusion that big is good for extra pressure but small is good for maneuverability. In a way they cancel each other out. Both work well at different times for me. I have to listen to my body, particularly my prostate.


   
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I totally agree with you there, Bill, in that for me the different models speak to different mindsets. If I am feeling passive there is nothing to rival the sense of fullness that the Progasm offers, with a definite feeling of something to grip onto and contract around, while the Helix and Eupho offer a more active, more participatory dancing experience.

As to your original question, skibum, what has changed for me with experience and practice is that I now view prostate orgasm as a state rather than an event, and once in the zone I can enjoy multiple peaks rather than the more predictable (and short-lived) pleasures of a penile orgasm. For me there is no comparison in terms of duration and intensity of pleasure - prostate is in a different league!


   
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For me my advice is

Just trying to relax as much as you can it takes practice but I believe crucial if you want to reach a super-o.

The time table varies from person to person. It took me 2-3 months of rewiring to feel the equivalent to multiple orgasm.  Some people get it first try and some have tried several years. I hope your closer to the former because it is amazing experience  


   
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