DO I HAVE THE RIGHT MODEL ?

Chips,

You have entered a phase that I entered six years ago with my Aneros. Trying it a few times without getting any real pleasure, I gave up using my Aneros for anything more than extending my penile orgasms.

Then early last week I had an insatiable desire for something I could not describe. I was truly tortured and finally decided to let my Aneros have its way. Relief was immediate. Within a week of use, I received my first Super-O.

My friend, don’t be like me. Don’t think that just because you don’t get orgasms right off, the model is not working. Those involuntary contractions mean something. Don’t give up your use now, as the rewiring process has just started! You are in the earliest steps.

Here is what you should do. Use your Aneros every other day for at least ten days- without expectations of anything. If you get some pleasure, good for you but that is not why you are using it. You are using it to give “Mistress Aneros” time to work her magic. Be patient, she is a subtle Mistress.

Remember your only goal is to use the Aneros on a regular basis at this point. You should have no expectations of pleasure. After ten days, if you are not addicted to your Aneros, see the experts here on this side- but give it those ten days.

Further, read up on everything you can here on this site.

Jefftech

Very good advice to heed from JeffTech.

A few other things I might add:

Anyway... the Helix does not seem to be hitting my prostate which I am sure that it should... or should I be concerned that it is not massaging my prostate ?

A common misconception that you will find a lot of new users have asked the same question here in the forum. I encourage you to read as much as you can here in the forum, and ask questions as needed. Documenting your Aneros journey in a post here is also a good way solidify your thoughts about the process and come up with new questions. The Aneros wiki has a lot of the same information that most users here will repeat to common first timer questions. It's really a treasure, and I wish I had read it much earlier on.
http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

I have tried the mid contractions Mr. Mayfield suggests, and do feel the involuntaries starting, but they have yet to take my body over... kneeling, sitting, standing, on my side, back etc... but I feel that its not quite massaging my prostate strongly enough when I make my contractions...

Until you have practiced more, learned to relax your body and anus completely, and have started to go through the re-wiring process, you probably won't experience involuntary contractions. And from my experience the only pleasure you will find is from really hard conscious contractions. In my opinion, involuntary contractions come from complete relaxation, and the re-wiring process. The Helix is not as aggressive in it's massage of the prostrate as the MGX, SGX, and I would guess the Progasm due to it's size and what I have read users experience with it. But that doesn't mean that you won't have success with your Helix. Just like JeffTech said, give it a chance, practice on a regular basis with no expectations of the outcome. But also I will add, abstain from masturbation as much as possible to increase your arousal before a session. And definitely do not masturbate during and right after a session if you want to learn how to acheive super-O's. Your trying to train your body and mind to find pleasure from a different source, your anus and prostrate. So masturbating is self defeating until you have become attuned to these new sensations, re-wired, and know how to achieve the super-O.

Do I need a more curved model like the MGX or maybe the Progasm ?

No. But you may find yourself buying different models in the future as you either become more curious, frustrated, or adept with using your Helix. For myself, the MGX kick started the whole process for me, after having owned the Helix for over a year. It was a chance I took to purchase it. Looking back, I'm sure I could have gotten where I am now if I had been more patient and practiced regularly with the Helix.

Is the Aneros supposed to massage my prostate to achieve this involuntary anal orgasm...

Yes, although your wording may be a bit off. Yes, the Aneros massages your prostrate, but there is also sensations from the anus that are produced from involuntary contractions. I'm not an advanced user yet as I've only experienced mini-O's, but I've found extremely pleasurable sensations from both my anus and prostrate during a session.

Do I need more practice ?

Definitely! As do I. We're both reaching for the same goal. I'm just a little further ahead.
You'll get there. Have faith!

You might want to listen to hypnaerosession to facilitate your relaxation.
In the advanced levels u will be able to get super os without any aneros insertion and purely from anal contractions so I don't think the exact model matters although I find the helix more pleasurable than the peridise
Cheer
A

chips1424,

I would agree with much of what the other users have said already in that some of this is about the re-wiring process.. I would strongly encourage you to read through the WIKI. It contains a distillation of most of my threads and those of other advanced users over the years.

I do want to correct one thing. The Helix IS generally regarded as MORE aggressive than either the MGX or SGX.

The Progasm is indeed the largest and therefore most aggressive of all of the models. The Progasm was designed for more advanced users and those who weren't getting adequate prostate engagement from the other models. Since you have had experience with prostate massage in the past, and are clearly familiar with prostate sensations, this is something that you might consider in the future.

That said, bear in mind that most men don't require high intensity prostate stimulation to generate a Super O. I would suggest that you give this time will your Helix. See if you can take some of those P-waves that you first experienced to the next level. If not the Progasm will be there.

BF Mayfield

Thank you for all or your input... I think I have to learn what these instruments can do... lol...
I sessioned a third time with the Helix again last night and let it have its way... only allowing myself to enjoy what it has to offer without expectations... I had some very good vibes... really good shuttering .... Patience could pay off.... just letting it do what is intended... I am thinking that I have to allow myself to enjoy this ride before I change models... but I would'nt mind trying them all...lol.... Thanks again for the feedback...

Your welcome chips1424.
And congratulations on starting to find some pleasurable results with your Helix.

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B Mayfield,

I apologize for the incorrect statement. I'm curious to understand your reasoning though.
How is it that you feel the Helix is generally regarded as more aggressive than the MGX and SGX?

More personal experience has shown that my MGX pushes much more firmly into my prostrate than the Helix. So much so, that if my contractions get to strong with the MGX, it gets uncomfortable and ever so slightly painful. Then at this point in the session I'll change to the Helix and continue with no problems.

Is my experience is atypical? Or perhaps there is some other aspect I am over looking?
Thanks

Love_is,

About which Aneros is more aggressive.

The tip and mid-point dimensions on the 3 models in question are as follows:

SGX: .65" tip & .95" mid-point

MGX: 3/4" tip & 3/4" mid-point

HELIX: 1 1/16" tip & 15/16" mid-point

The Helix is simply larger than the other models, in addition to that it is canted forward a little bit more as well. Furthermore, it has been contoured and balanced to be more responsive to ones contractions.

That said, some people seem to enjoy the MGX more. The most important thing is to find one that you're happy with and have fun with it!

BF Mayfield

Hiya B Mayfield,

Thank you for the reply.

I see what you're saying. You're basing it on physical size, rather than on how it performs on the individual. That makes sense. I'll have to make sure to modify my comments in future posts.
Thanks again.

Love_is,

Just to be clear, the Helix was designed to be more responsive and deliver a stronger massage. Many users have confirmed this. That said, individual anatomical variations may result in one device working better than another. Ultimately it's about how it works for you that counts!

BF Mayfield

I understand.
Sorry for the confusion.

Hello B Mayfield,

I do believe I really understand what you are saying about the Helix being more aggressive than the MGX now. As I had another Aneros session last night. And I think the sensation that I was mistaking the MGX for being more aggressive is actually that being slimmer, it is much more mobile/moves easier within the rectum. But also as I contract harder, it pivots hard on the P-tab so it forces the MGX to move not only deeper, but closer to the prostrate. Whereas on the Helix I get absolutely no pivoting from the P-tab, as it just barely touches my perineum on a hard contraction. So it doesn't move within me the same way as the MGX.

As of last night, I'm finding the MGX to be a good way to start a session. But once my anus gets really relaxed, I'm finding it to be a bit to small, and the mobility of it does not make up for it not being aggressive enough in it's massaging of the prostrate. It doesn't seem to matter how I contract, as it is missing the bumps and larger girth of the Helix to rub the prostrate in a really pleasurable way.

THANKS FOR THE ADVISE ENTHUSIASTS.... I HAVE HAD THREE MORE SESSIONS AND THEY HAVE
AWAKENED MY INVOLUNTARIES BY LETTING MY BODY LET THE ANEROS TAKE OVER....
GOOD SHAKING AND INVOLUNTARY VIBRATIONS OF THE THIGHS, HIPS, STOMACH, AND
ANALLY... QUESTION IS, WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE... WHEN I CONTRACT BY PULLING THE
ANEROS FARTHER IN THAN MIDWAY ITS SEEMS THAT THINGS BEGIN TO SUBSIDE...

I AM STILL TRYING TO USE THE MID CONTRACTION TO GET GOOD MULTIPLE ANAL INVOLUNTARIES... BUT HAVE YET TO EXPERIENCE GOOD MULTIPLE ANAL INVOLUNTARIES... IS THIS SOMETHING I NEED TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH FOR A DRY OR SUPER O... ?

ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT HAD TROUBLE GETTING THE OTHER INVOLUNTARIES STARTED AGAIN...
IT SEEMS I CAN SHAKE FOR MINUTES AT A TIME AND CONTINUE TO DO IT ALL OVER AND OVER AGAIN OVER A FEW HOURS... BUT WHAT TECHNIQUES CAN I EMPLOY TO ADVANCE TOWARDS THE DRY ORGASMS... ? AM I EXPERIENCING MINI O's ?

Hello chips1424,

Congratulations! Your making some progress!

Your questions are sort of related and linked together. So you'll have to excuse me if I don't answer each one individually. I'm a little bit ahead of you, although I have not experienced super-O's yet, only mini-O's, and I guess P waves. To go further and have longer and more intense involuntary anal contractions requires total relaxation. Interfering by consciously taking control of the Aneros to pull it in deeper will, like you have experienced, make the pleasure subside. Although I have found that short, quick conscious anal contractions can sometimes add to the experience and help build the pleasure.

It sounds like you're starting to get the hang of involuntary anal contractions. For me, that was only one aspect of learning. The other is learning to experience pleasure from your prostrate being rubbed/massaged by the Aneros. I started by dedicating one session to just focusing and concentrating on rocking my hips so as to feel the Aneros rub against my prostrate. For me, I found this to open the door to my prostrate "awakening", and getting sensitive to stimulation. Sessions after that I learned to included involuntary anal contractions while rocking my hips, and have found the pleasure to be very, very nice. I believe I had my first mini-O last night, contrary to what I thought before.(It's all new territory) I guess my point is that involuntary anal contractions and your prostrate being massaged do not necessarily automatically go hand in hand. You might find like myself, that you have to learn one, then the other, and then combine them. Give that a try. I think it will move you further along.

Peace

P.S. - Just a heads up...
Typing in all capitol letters is usually considered to be impolite. It is the equivalent of shouting your conversation to someone that is standing only one foot away from you. I'm sure you did not intend it to be interpreted that way as most people that usually do that, do so to save labor on typing by not using the shift key. But I just wanted to let you be aware of that. Thanks.

Thanks for the heads up ! ... Its a work in progress and I am enjoying it...

I'll try all the suggestions...

I am having the same issue..I started out with the helix and practiced for a few months. Discouraged, I moved up to the progasm, although better, I know its not hitting the spot..close..but not quite. I have made some modifications to the progasm. I originally tried to lessen the tabs distance to the body by heating and stretching out, but after several 'adjustments', both tabs broke off. This seems to have gotten it as close as i have been to hitting the spot, but still not quite. Since I have been a 'student' for nearly a year, and have tried numerous positions (right side, left side, half sitting, laying flat, laying with knees up, standing, kneeling..) I have tried probably all of the suggestions in this forum to no avail. Have gone as long as 2 hours with no real results. Close..but no cigar. I have come to the conclusion that these two models do not have the depth, nor the acuteness of angle I guess would be the term, to hit the spot effectively. I know through wifes exploration that this does seem to be the case. I think another 3/4" to 1" would be about right. Is there any other model that would fit my needs, either out of the box, or modified? Also it seems, no matter how 'relaxed' or how much lube is used, the device just doesn't seem to move in and out, rather just get pulled in and out by muscles. Is this right? Even if this is corrected, it wouldn't hit the spot though..Thanks