Dangers Of Anal Lube and Options

yeah, i definitely worry about this!

that is why i switched to using exclusively refined coconut oil.

i figure that if it is edible, and commonly eaten, it is ok.

i am particularly wary of the water based lubes. the oil based ones don't get absorbed as much.

darwin

est -ce que la gélé ky cest ok ❓

plantation-

in my opinion, no, KY jelly is not ok. it is water based.

darwin

pour darwin une marque de huile de coco rafiné pour moi merci ❗

plantation-

this is the brand coconut oil i am using:
https://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=368332

this is a latex-free syringe that i use (3cc). (oil dissolves latex)
http://www.healthaccessories.com/ezy_dose/oral_syringes.htm

coconut oil is solid at room temperature. to make it liquid, for the syringe, i put a small amount in a little cup, and heat it with a hair dryer

darwin

OH!!

Thank you for providing that thought provoking article link, it certainly goes to the heart of some of our fellow users concerns regarding lubrication compounds. I know this is something that ‘Virg’ has had a long standing concern about and it is a concern ‘Darwin’ and I share as well. We, Aneros users, find ourselves in the unique circumstance of being defacto test subjects for long term health effects of various anal lubricating compounds. While we are not in a clinically supervised and structured test, we are, no doubt, building a large base of user data regarding some of these formulations. Even the ‘Natural Jelly’ recipe, though containing all natural ingredients, contains alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E) which can be toxic at high levels of exposure (>800 IU/kg of body weight/day) but has many beneficial effects at low dosage levels and in combination with selenium and gamma-tocopherol may even have preventative effects on prostate cancer.
One of the problems with getting scientific testing done on this type of usage is that we are such a small segment of the general population there is little incentive for anyone to fund a study. As you said, about all we can do is stay as well informed as we can and use “common sense” with our practice.

merci Darwin pour une marque de huile de coco rafiné pour moi merci mais le lien ne fonctione pas https://www.wegmans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=368332 ❗

plantation-

it works for me??

the product is: "Spectrum Organic Coconut Oil, Refined"

darwin

Hey People, 🙂

Those of you that have been reading my posts know that I've been using refined 100% shea butter as a natural anal lubricant. From reading forum member J4's blog, I got some good information from him to do some reading on the internet regarding refined versus unrefined shea butter. Turns out that harsh nasty chemicals that are not good for the body are used to refine the oil. And then on top of that, the shea butter loses it's natural healing qualities after being refined. So I'll switch to unrefined 100% shea butter when I finish this jar. I would imagine there are some similar issues with coconut oil. Something to consider.

Love is Peace

Well, I guess I didn't want to live forever anyway. What a way to go!

Nice sentiment Buster!
But seriously ... I feel I'm making progress and I haven't been using any lube at all except spitting in my palm and rolling the Aneros around in my spittle before insertion - the Peridise is of course the easiest of all to use like this, but the Helix has been ok and the couple of times I've used the Progasm, maybe I'm just naturally moister back there, but daily dried prune intake (4) helps I feel to maintain good rectum natural lubrication. Apart from not worrying about possible effects of using other substances, not bodily generated, it's a whole lot less of a performance compared to the one time I've used "baby bottom butter" which is shea butter based.

That's a very good point hapticbear!
But does using saliva last for long term sessions without frequent re-application?

I don't know guys,
I agree we need to think about what we put up our butts for lube, and I do use my own natural lube, but, I also use the waterbase if I'm in a hurry and don't want to mess with the Shea Butter.

I think it is better to use some type of lube rather than end up with a torn rectum from little or no lube at all.

If we love to get super-O's then we need to lube, and we need to go as natural as possible.

They have a couple of new water based lubes now that have as few harmful chemicals as possible.

I just got one called Sliquid, it is made in the USA and is Vegan. glycerine, and paraben free.

Some are even organic. as listed. I got the Sliquid Sassy Anal, as it is a bit cheaper that the organic, but I still wanted most of the chemicals gone.

http://www.cheaplubes.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=660
http://www.cheaplubes.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=659

I have not tested it yet but I will very, very soon ... maybe tonight 😆

Hey skeeter_g!

Thanks for posting the info on Sliquid lube.

http://www.sliquid.com
They seem to have the right idea in making a natural lube. But two of the ingredients in their non-organic line: Polyquat 007, and DMDM Hydantoin, cause some concern in me. There is a review at the following link:

http://www.redsneakerdiaries.com/?p=406

While this stuff is most likely healthier than glycerin or silicone based lubes. Those two ingredients would keep me from wanting to use it. Although if pre-lubing doesn't cause the urge to purge like glycerin based lubes do for me, then that would be a huge improvement.

On the other hand...
Their organic line has no nasty man made chemicals in it that I can see.
http://sliquidorganics.com
I applaud them in achieving that! So it looks like Sliquid Organics Gel would be a good one to try. Only thing is, it's more expensive than the shea butter that I use. Although, that may change once I switch over to unrefined shea butter. But it would have to last for long sessions without having to re-apply more lube for me to switch I would think.

I'll be interested to hear how you like the Sliquid Sassy you bought. Keep us posted. 🙂

Love is Peace

Hello again,

I just want to post the link in here of the other thread on natural lubes so we can keep similar information grouped together for easy reference.

http://www.aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2838

Hi All,
I had my first session with the new Sliquid Sassy last night, while the session was very good:lol:, I do have some observations on the lube.
Well, it feels like most other water bases lubes but a bit thicker. Maybe because they designed it for the butt.
I went through only about 35 minutes before I felt like I needed to re-lube. that is not usual for me, as I can always go an hour or more with Maximus Water base. I removed the Progasm, and went for the new lube job, then went only another 35 minutes and then ended the session a little early.

Obviously I have a lot of this Sliquid lube remaining, but I may mix a small batch with some Maximus to see if it is any good...

I hope somebody will try the Organic Sliquid and post how they like it.

Hi skeeter_g,

Thanks for posting your observations of the Sliquid Sassy. I have to say, 35 minutes until re-lube in my opinion is not long enough. Did you pre-lube your rectum at all with it? If you didn't, that might account for why you need to re-lube so often.

Just as an example, when I was using Astroglide(glycerin based lube), with a pre-lube of 2.5 to 3 ml I could go for many hours without re-lubing as long as I didn't swap Aneros within the session. But the urge to purge after pre-lube was not comfortable at all. With the shea butter I use, I never have to re-lube at all. If I swap out an Aneros during a session I lube up the new one going in, and keep going.

I agree, a review of the Organic Sliquid would be most informative.

Love is Peace

Hi Love_is,
I always prelube, but I don't use much, nor do I personally need it.
So when I compare lubes, I don't do anything different than what I always do.

It maybe worth it for a couple of other folks to try and see how they like it, but to me it is not the product I would use on a regular bases. I need lube to last!! 😆

Hi skeeter_g,

I always prelube, but I don't use much, nor do I personally need it.

I wonder if not using much might be the problem in itself. Any lube of this sort I'd be pre-lubing my rectum with a syringe with no less than 2.5 to 3ml. I know I've read guys here that pre-lube with much more than that. That strikes me as the key to making this sort of lube work. But without actually trying it, I have no way of really knowing.

I need lube to last!!

I agree entirely! I'm very happy with shea butter myself. And I don't foresee changing lubes in the near future. With the exception of changing to unrefined shea butter.

Love is Peace

all lubes are absorbed most are expelled via the w.c very few cause trouble

vasaline as been used for over 50 years on babys bottoms to anal use cant about find about anyone

who died or had medical probs

Hi Love_is,
I really like the Shea Butter as well... 😉 by the way, I did use the unrefined shea in my last batch of lube. 😆

I will still be trying the new Sliquid Sassy. I may try a bit more like you suggest and see what happens. I have noting to loose!! 😉

Hi telwest,
I think lots of different lubes have been used, but some folks are very concerned how much of the bad stuff is being absorbed into the anus.

I think we are all hoping that we can find that perfect lube that does not impact our systems and cause problems in the future. 🙂

Has anyone tried Slippery Stuff Gel? Apparently it was developed for medical examination use and is FDA registered. It is extremely thick; bubbles in the syringe will not migrate to the top, and it seems to last a very long time.

Does anyone else have any experience with this?

I have been using Sliquid Sassy Intimate Gel for two months with good results. Anyone else use this lube on a regular basis?

has no one tried flax seed oil?

If not, I will. Absorbed straight into your blood stream, fantastical! It's really good for your prostate, so it seems like a perfect combo.

I dont know guys...

The original article cited is pretty outdated. It also makes some rather dubious claims.

"If HIV is transmitted sexually and is highly contagious, why hasn't AIDS spread into the heterosexual population? (15)"

This statement, along with many others this author is making seem vague/generalized/unsupported.

I would need better supported evidence myself.

But, gourdy, despite the flaws in the original article, I think the premise still stands that the rectum is absorbing chemicals from the personal lubricants and those chemicals may have a deleterious effect on our internal systems. In my research on this topic, I notice many medications are administered via the rectum to take advantage of its highly absorptive capabilities. That supports the advice that we should be careful what we use for personal lubricants. I also notice that the spermicide-lubricant in condoms specifically says that it is not intended for rectal use. So, using a condom for a barrier to the lubricant may not prevent absorption of unwanted compounds (haven't checked on non-lubricated condoms).

Since no professional research is being done on this topic, I think the safest bet is to stick to unrefined natural products. I notice that hemorrhoid suppositories use cocoa butter as the major active ingredient with several derivatives of the paraben group as inactive ingredients. The dosage on these products indicate they are safe up to six suppositories per day. I'd conclude that cocoa butter, or coconut oil or shea butter, and related compounds are probably our safest bet.

Would these natural lubes be more prone to have bacteria in them?

Bacteria? Most definitely. Everything does, including the rectum, unless it is specifically sterilized. Pathogenic bacteria? Most likely not unless an infected person with inappropriate hygiene was involved in the production process. Bacteria are destroyed by heat, so initially warming the product above 161 F for 15-20 seconds should reduce the number of viable pathogens. Since these are oil products, you could probably go all the way to boiling without damaging the chemical structure. Just make sure it has returned to room or body temperature before you use it!!

has no one tried flax seed oil?

am I going to have to be the first? 😕