Couple of months in with small results and some frustration to let out

Posted by: @soul-pleasure

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@plugnduck 

Hello

A survivor here!

 

Lift your head . Do you know how long it took me to have consistent sessions? 1 year and half.

I make some comments here on the forum in an attempt to reciprocate a little of the knowledge I gained here. People who post about Super Os and hits have been right where you are now. The path does not exist it is built (traveled) .

How many uncertainties did I have? How many attempts and variations of Kegels have I done? Countless! Today I don't do any Kegels (Every body is different so the answer might be too) .

 

A quiz for you :.

1. How long have you been using aneros?

2. How is your lubrication?

3. Does your lubricant not cause reactions?

4. Is the lubricant too thick or watery or ideal?

5. What aneros do you use?

6. Can you do a session with peace of mind?

7. How many sessions per week?

8 . Even though it's difficult, do you leave a space of 1 or 2 days between sessions?

9 . How long do the sessions last?

 

 

Even if you don't realize it (don't be aware) your body/brain is learning something during the session. It's never a pointless session.

We'll talk in the future (with you having intense orgasms) and we'll want to know what you were doing now and why it wasn't working.

For you to have an idea that the aneros acts unconsciously, my erections today are different from the erections (pre aneros), just remembering that I don't do Kegels and I do 3 sessions a week.

What has changed ? Answer: I don't know 

 

(Note quarterly progress and you'll see where you started and what you've accomplished during that time. Do this in the months to come.)

Hi

@Soul Pleasure  

@plugnduck

I'd like to take your quiz as well, hope you don't mind to give me a feedback if you like. thanks

I have had very limited success too. For the first 6-7 months kept on edging and masturbating but afterwards gave completely up and I think I saw some improvements in terms of sensations..some buzzing some little pulsations.. During the summer vacations had only one Aless calms sea orgasm (20 to 30 minutes, it was amazing) .. it was not a session, it arrived spontaneously after sex and some weed. It was key for me cause it demonstrated this stuff is real..

Currently have spontaneous pulsations, contractions, fluttering mostly without a toy .. in the morning or in the night (during bed time) but not associated with any pleasure.

1. How long have you been using aneros?

12 months

2. How is your lubrication?

Good. Started with water based lube but then switched to coconut oil

3. Does your lubricant not cause reactions?

nope

4. Is the lubricant too thick or watery or ideal?

it seems pretty good

5. What aneros do you use?

Helix syn trident or helyx syn V (I dont use the vibration)

6. Can you do a session with peace of mind?

Have been working a lot on this. I believe I didnt, the last two month have started some meditation work which seems to help a lot

7. How many sessions per week?

for 7 months three times a week, now only 2,

8 . Even though it's difficult, do you leave a space of 1 or 2 days between sessions?

yes, 1

9 . How long do the sessions last?

from 1 hour to 2 hours
 

Answers

@paul7979 

No problems . Let's go.

Just remembering that the Aneros journey doesn't seem to have an end so we are all learning somehow.

Advances can be inconsistent, sometimes I was sure there was a technique (gold standard) and that it would give me Super-Os every day. These techniques worked for short periods. The funny thing is that today I don't do any and it certainly works better, but I had to go through these paths.

You've had an aless post session that gives you a clue as to what sensations make up prostate orgasms.

1. How long have you been using aneros?

12 months

*  Observe for periods of 3 or 4 months what has changed and what you have started to feel since the first use of aneros, both mentally and physically.

2. How is your lubrication?

Good. Started with water based lube but then switched to coconut oil

The important thing here is your comfort. (Personally and considering many variables) I find coconut oil very fine and I feel the aneros with a friction above normal which reduces attention and pleasure. As a test suggestion there is a natural lubricant recipe created by the noble members of this forum. I think @Rumel @Zentai has the links or formula.

3. Does your lubricant not cause reactions?

nope

* This is very important 

4. Is the lubricant too thick or watery or ideal?

it seems pretty good

*  Great too , if necessary apply more lubricant . 

5. What aneros do you use?

Helix syn trident or helyx syn V (I dont use the vibration)

* Incredible like all Aneros.  Do a search in the Helix forum search box to find out what to expect in terms of feel or movement.  I use Eupho (amazing) and will soon have my Progasm Jr.

6. Can you do a session with peace of mind?

Have been working a lot on this. I believe I didnt, the last two month have started some meditation work which seems to help a lot

*  Secure, non-disruptive environment. As for the mind, go into a session with the thought of gratitude for whatever comes. Big sensations or small ones, that's why you need to enjoy what comes and in no way force the pleasure. You will be a viewer. One thing to note about relaxation. If you drop a drop of water into a container of still water, waves will form. If you drop a drop of water into a bowl of stirred (boiling) water, no wave will form. That is, it is easier to perceive anything while you are immobile. (Remembering that this is not a rule)

7. How many sessions per week?

for 7 months three times a week, now only 2,

*   This is an ideal time. I feel that if I do it every day, the pleasure is not the same. My impression is that the structures of the anal canal and prostate are renewed as if there were a thin invisible film of pure sensitivity and that if used frequently it will be undone (Just my impressions)

8 . Even though it's difficult, do you leave a space of 1 or 2 days between sessions?

yes, 1

*  Each one must discover their own rhythm but we know that the Rest is as fundamental as exercise/effort

9 . How long do the sessions last?

from 1 hour to 2 hours

  I do less than an hour per session and it's satisfying. It depends on where on the journey each one is. Go straight on.

I carried an idea that Aneros had to have a lot of movement and a lot of visible signings. They were myths in my head. It doesn't happen like that with me. The movements are internal and very small, precise, involuntary and under total control of the rhythm of the prostate (naughty 😎 )

Note: Most of the session I stay still and then the minimal sensations become evident along with extreme comfort and pleasure.

Luck

Posted by: @soul-pleasure

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Answers

@paul7979 

No problems . Let's go.

Just remembering that the Aneros journey doesn't seem to have an end so we are all learning somehow.

Advances can be inconsistent, sometimes I was sure there was a technique (gold standard) and that it would give me Super-Os every day. These techniques worked for short periods. The funny thing is that today I don't do any and it certainly works better, but I had to go through these paths.

You've had an aless post session that gives you a clue as to what sensations make up prostate orgasms.

 

1. How long have you been using aneros?

12 months

*  Observe for periods of 3 or 4 months what has changed and what you have started to feel since the first use of aneros, both mentally and physically.

 

2. How is your lubrication?

Good. Started with water based lube but then switched to coconut oil

The important thing here is your comfort. (Personally and considering many variables) I find coconut oil very fine and I feel the aneros with a friction above normal which reduces attention and pleasure. As a test suggestion there is a natural lubricant recipe created by the noble members of this forum. I think @Rumel @Zentai has the links or formula.

 

 

3. Does your lubricant not cause reactions?

nope

* This is very important 

 

4. Is the lubricant too thick or watery or ideal?

it seems pretty good

*  Great too , if necessary apply more lubricant . 

 

5. What aneros do you use?

Helix syn trident or helyx syn V (I dont use the vibration)

* Incredible like all Aneros.  Do a search in the Helix forum search box to find out what to expect in terms of feel or movement.  I use Eupho (amazing) and will soon have my Progasm Jr.

 

6. Can you do a session with peace of mind?

Have been working a lot on this. I believe I didnt, the last two month have started some meditation work which seems to help a lot

*  Secure, non-disruptive environment. As for the mind, go into a session with the thought of gratitude for whatever comes. Big sensations or small ones, that's why you need to enjoy what comes and in no way force the pleasure. You will be a viewer. One thing to note about relaxation. If you drop a drop of water into a container of still water, waves will form. If you drop a drop of water into a bowl of stirred (boiling) water, no wave will form. That is, it is easier to perceive anything while you are immobile. (Remembering that this is not a rule)

 

7. How many sessions per week?

for 7 months three times a week, now only 2,

*   This is an ideal time. I feel that if I do it every day, the pleasure is not the same. My impression is that the structures of the anal canal and prostate are renewed as if there were a thin invisible film of pure sensitivity and that if used frequently it will be undone (Just my impressions)

 

8 . Even though it's difficult, do you leave a space of 1 or 2 days between sessions?

yes, 1

*  Each one must discover their own rhythm but we know that the Rest is as fundamental as exercise/effort

 

9 . How long do the sessions last?

from 1 hour to 2 hours

  I do less than an hour per session and it's satisfying. It depends on where on the journey each one is. Go straight on.

 

I carried an idea that Aneros had to have a lot of movement and a lot of visible signings. They were myths in my head. It doesn't happen like that with me. The movements are internal and very small, precise, involuntary and under total control of the rhythm of the prostate (naughty 😎 )

Note: Most of the session I stay still and then the minimal sensations become evident along with extreme comfort and pleasure.

 

Luck

 

Thanks a lot.. great answers !

try the techniques in: https://community.aneros.com/forum/general-discussion/how-to-have-a-less-orgasms-almost-instantly-male-vagus-nerve-orgasms/paged/3/#post-119036
but with your Aneros in.

Posted by: @soul-pleasure

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As a test suggestion there is a natural lubricant recipe created by the noble members of this forum. I think @Rumel @Zentai has the links or formula.

Rumel has all the links, basically it's beeswax + your natural oil of choice. Some guys use shea butter, I use coconut oil, and there are other variations. My lube of choice when I don't want to do some cooking is AstroGlide Gel, it's a great performer. I know lots of people worry about chemicals in those products. I use about two 113 ml tubes a year, so that's a liter of this stuff every 8 years... Is that a lot ? Maybe. With natural formulas you don't have to wonder about such things, so I recommend giving it a shot, plus the wax+oil mix really perform well.  

@plugnduck

Hey man I thought I'd chime in here as well because you have said a lot of things I've thought in the past (and sometimes now). I think it's perfectly healthy to vent a bit of frustration and believe me I do feel your pain, it might seem like you try something new and that didn't work and that's just one more level of discouragement.  Or is it just me?  I think the "negativity" that @Helghast mentions is natural, or at least comes naturally to some of us.  Are those the ones who have the least success with sessions?  I dunno.  But I've been at this long enough to learn that I can't judge my own progress by comparing it to others' no matter how jealous I am of those bastards that have Super-Os in their 2nd session.  There's no magic pill or formula that will make you or I have the same level of success that they have, right now I just accept the fact that it's a process that's going to take as long as it takes. 

I can't tell you how long it'll take you because I'm not there myself and I've been at this for 4.5 years.  I keep a journal though and can look back at the progress I've made though it's not been anything mind-blowing...I am still moving forward and making strides.  I try to console myself that it's the journey that matters more than the destination.  The ultimate goal is not only to experience super-orgasms but to be able to perform sexually for my (hypothetical) woman as long as it takes for her to be satisfied; I'm sure there are a few different ways to achieve that but bypassing ejaculation and having my own multiple orgasms seems like a logical progression.  Now I've been chatting with guys who are in their late 60s who wish they could have started when they were my age (mid-30s) and every once in a while you'll encounter a guy who is in his early 20s.  It's no use wishing that you could have started way back when either.  The best time to reinvent yourself is right now! 

For everyone that's chimed in thank you for your suggestions, I think there are definitely some ideas in there that I need to consider, because I'm certainly open to the possibility that I've been attacking the problem in the wrong way.  @Rumel as always has lots of links that I'll need to reread...though on the subject of arousal I've noticed just in the last 6-9 months that I can get aroused very quickly and lose it that quickly as well, sort of an interesting developmental hurdle I haven't quite gotten over yet. 

I also think that what might be helpful is if a couple more people like me who have been at this a while could get together and start a thread, something like a "Late Bloomers Support Group" for those that don't have that immediate meteoric success that some have.  We don't statistically even know how common that is but they seem to be on one end of the spectrum and we're on the other. 

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Thanks @soul-pleasure for the ideas, I thought I'd go ahead and take that quiz myself:

A quiz for you :.

1. How long have you been using aneros?
-4.5 years

2. How is your lubrication?
-pretty good though I try to experiment.  I've noticed that there are times after a session (usually lasting 1-1.5hrs) when the stem of the Aneros (where the anus clenches) tends to dry out far sooner than anything else and I'm not sure what to do about that.  Just started experimenting with the condom method thanks to some recent chat sessions but results have been inconclusive. 

3. Does your lubricant not cause reactions?
-it does not cause reactions

4. Is the lubricant too thick or watery or ideal?
-I think it's pretty good but you tell me what you think based on my answers to question 2.  I usually pre-lube myself with ID Glide and then pre-lube the toy with Slippery Stuff Gel.  If the thicker lubricants hinder micro movements of the Aneros then I don't know what to do as it's been a frustrating experience trying to find any lubricant that sticks to the Aneros well enough without going everywhere and causing a huge mess. 

5. What aneros do you use?
-Many.  Favorites are Helix Syn Trident and MGX Syn Trident, meaning those are the two that I use most frequently, in that order. 

6. Can you do a session with peace of mind?
-Relatively.  I find that I'm not comfortable on a warmth level unless it is quite warm and of course it's Winter here; I have a space heater which helps.  I'm staying in a house with several other people right now so there is a constant awareness of how much noise I would need to muffle when things start feeling good.  Then again for a few months earlier this year I was living completely by myself and it's not like sessions back then were wonderful and now they're not, still a steady upwards progression.  I have pillows to muffle sounds as well as white noise machines that run continuously.  I have some waterproof sex blankets (except made by Mambe not Liberator) which remove the worry of making a mess.  My room has a lock and I have a private bathroom so anything that can be done has been to make sure I have privacy. 

7. How many sessions per week?
-1-2

8 . Even though it's difficult, do you leave a space of 1 or 2 days between sessions?
-Sometimes it's difficult though this year it has not been. 

9 . How long do the sessions last?
-1-1.5hrs usually

I suppose that once you remove the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, will be the solution, eh? 

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This post is mainly for me to kind of voice some of my disappointment and frustration. Since I dont really expect people here to be able to help me, I gotta go through this myself and maybe its just time and there is nothing I can do differently or better than I am already doing and it gets better with more time put into the practice. 

I am not chasing orgasms at this point, I just would like to feel pleasure. Does not need to become a super orgasm, just to have a certain baseline of pleasure to my sessions that is more satisfying than what I have now. I dont really get a lot of pleasure, maybe some twinkle here or there but its like a flash and it does not build. I dont know how to get the pleasure to build or even if I can do something differently to build it. I certainly can not produce it on command nor do I know why it sometimes happens. 

I do kegels mainly when I am having a session, squeezing the pc muscle, relaxing it, squeezing again. The sphincter also but now I am trying to get more control over the pc and to differentiate it from the sphincter. Although it feels that there are not just two muscles there, there are a bunch of them but I dont have individual control over them that much but when they do move I do recognize there are multiple ones that can move independently. I also do the mindgasm practices, I try the do nothing approach in the strictest sense of literally not squeezing the muscles at all and actively keeping them relaxed. That one is a total dud, fall asleep every time I try that one and feel literally nothing from it. I go a few days without ejaculation to help me, that has helped a little but still the sessions are less than desirable as far as pleasure goes. I know I should not have any expectations or think anything, but I do. My mind has thoughts and I do want to feel pleasure, to say I dont would be lying to myself. But neither am I dwelling on it while I am having a session, I try to give my full attention to the feelings in my prostate during a session, I am not thinking "this sucks" or "this is not pleasurable enough". Its mostly afterwards that I feel discouraged. I am complaining here because its the only thing I know how to do regarding this thing. Maybe writing this out helps me get rid of some of the frustration. Love you for reading. 

I can get involuntary muscle spasm happening, but there is no pleasure with them. The muscles are going on and I can even shift and control it a bit by how strong I squeeze and how I squeeze. But there is no pleasure there. Maybe a minimal pleasure here or there but nothing that has any real extension in time that I could keep my attention with. Or alternatively there is such a small spark of pleasure that I am not even sure if it is pleasure or if its just imagination, regardless, that does not build either even if I keep my attention on it. There is no consistency to how or why pleasure happens.

I am just getting into nipple play so the effectiveness of that is still pending. Thank you for reading, I wish you good and fun sessions.

Keep the faith man.  You'll certainly fail to get it if you give up! 

Not to discourage anyone but it has taken years for me to achieve good results! The journey has been worth it as I have experimented with a lot of different toys only to find that it’s all about technique and learning the basics! Now I am able to achieve Os without any toy inserted - Aless. Still like to use my Aneros Vice2 and HelixSynV, with and without vibration. Occasionally I will use my NJoy toys as well - all are good and can produce pleasure beyond description. Taking a break between sessions helps as does abstaining from penile masturbation - just focusing on the prostate and perenium. One big item for me is getting the Aneros in to the max where I can feel the P and K tabs working their magic and feel the head dancing inside!

One very important item for me which I almost forgot to mention involves nipple play! Gently tweaking them back and forth as well as circular motion really revs things up! 
Thankful for all the good experiences mentioned by others here on the forum as well!

@fred27, same here with the duration, over 10 years for me. My problem was and remains inadequate relaxation but I've been able to break through that and get consistent results.

@faith-manages 

We all see that your experience is comfortable, from the preparation to the use of aneros, which is very important.

Regarding question 4, please do not get attached to the details. Everything here is about experimenting. You can try injecting (0.15 FL oz or 5 Ml) into the anus with some filtered water as a test and passing the lubricant around the aneros. I do this at the current time and it works fine with Eupho.Remembering that many times the perception that thicker lubricants absorb movements is very individual, weighting is necessary.

What I propose is that all the minimum conditions are met. Secure all of them and experience will guide you for the rest. Secure what you can. Today I see that any level of prostate orgasm is a set of combined things and that yes it is a cerebral body learning. That's because after apprehending I don't need the same focus I had before, it's automatic. If I ask myself what was missing in me when the sessions were without (noticeable) results, I won't be able to say. I've tweaked a few things over time but that's not the answer. So several things work together. We can only give our bodies all the necessary conditions.

I will add 1 question :

10 . How do you feel after the aneros has been inserted? In the first 30 minutes and in the final 30 minutes (Any perception here is valid as: "I felt a pleasant fulfillment", "I felt restless [I wanted to move my body, involuntarily tremble]", I felt comfort.)

Aneros hits our gland in full however, the sensations will often not be exactly in her, they will be scattered throughout the region or body. 

My Progasm Jr is coming, will I be successful? Do I have to start over from 0? The journey is unpredictable.

Oops I guess I haven't been on in a while! 

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10 . How do you feel after the aneros has been inserted? In the first 30 minutes and in the final 30 minutes (Any perception here is valid as: "I felt a pleasant fulfillment", "I felt restless [I wanted to move my body, involuntarily tremble]", I felt comfort.)

I usually don't feel too much when the Aneros is inserted--my arousal has seemed to drop quite steeply in the last year and I'm not sure why, I try to be as aroused as I can with Aless but by the time I've lubed up the Aneros and inserted it's like I'm starting over...kind of frustrating.  Honestly I don't feel anything starting out but I can get back into it quickly enough and it usually doesn't take to long to have good sensations, but buildup can take a while.  I don't know if I feel anything approaching "orgasm" level of pleasure but can regularly get some nice P-waves, that's the best progress I've made so far.  Last year I was finishing sessions feeling incredibly frustrated, this year I've been sleeping so poorly that I think oftentimes I fall asleep after an hour, I don't even know what I feel during the last 30min, except either boredom or reluctant acceptance that it's gone as far as it will. 

A little update. Thanks for everyone who has given advice to me. I have gone now a few days with no masturbation and I am finally getting some good sensations happening. No orgasms but I can finally get some good feelings to happen in my sessions which is a big thing for me. Nothing about what I do in my sessions has changed, I just now get a response to squeezing and movement. Where as before if I would flex the pc muscle I would not feel much, now I feel this melting sensation and glow that spreads and intensifies and feels very pleasurable. One way to describe that sensation would be if horniness and pleasure are one sensation, this is the feeling I have. You just want more of it, it feels good and just feeling that makes you more horny and feeling more pleasure. I am sure that if I can just have that feeling prolonged it will intensify and become an orgasm, although in a certain way of viewing orgasms you could also say that that feeling itself is kind of an orgasm or orgasmic, it would just be about the level of intensity of it. It tends to fizzle out after some time like half a minute or minute so I am just now starting the learning of how to be with it and go with it and have it last longer, but I am happy that I am finally feeling something. The difference in motivation between feeling this vs not feeling next to anything in the sessions is huge.

So if other people are struggling similarly to me for getting any results, I would advice to stop playing with your dick. No watching porn and edging, no dick play for a couple of days and see if that changes your aneros sessions. For me it took like 4 days of no masturbation to start to get results. So I would advice going at least one week of no masturbation and seeing if that makes a difference, or two weeks even for people who one week does not work. 

Second update, I think I had my first (mini?)prostate orgasm today. I was having a session, like an hour into it and my prostate was alive, was getting some sensations although nothing self sustaining was happening, I was enjoying the feelings and then I put my attention into a different spot than before, I went in almost through the belly and down, and then I guess I squeezed something in that spot (maybe that was more mentally, but it had a physical effect) and at that moment my prostate went wild, it started to spasm with involuntary contractions and pleasure and my dick got hard and all I could do was take deep breaths and try not to do anything. Because it had started and it was self sustaining, I did not do anything at this point, no contractions or manipulation, just feeling the pleasure building and the muscles rotating inside of me. This lasted for I guess a minute or two minutes, then slowly subsided but even afterwards my prostate was still twitching. Then after some time like a few minutes it started again. I actually had a moment during the initial build up where I was feeling like "am I about to ejaculate?", it was quite pleasurable. 

Posted by: @plugnduck

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I used to watch to porn or fantasize but I stopped all of that now and am trying not doing that.

I think watching porn during an aneros session is a distraction from what you need to be doing which is focusing on the generated sensations.  Try watching porn prior your session for arousal and then turning it off when you start.

@plugnduck 

The first question is : What is your perception of this pleasure? Did you like what you felt?

Be prepared that tends to increase ...

This is one of the ways, I hope you come so intensely in the next ones to the point where you won't be able to reason 😉

Congratulations ! 😀

@faith-manages 

On low arousal you will need to observe your history. Your arousal was always low, has it become low? Is arousal low in sex or masturbation? Do an individual analysis.

Either way, get some blood tests that can give you information about vitamins. These are common exams that can indicate whether there is a deficiency of essential vitamins for well being. If there is, treat the vitamin deficiency with a doctor.

Vitamin D is a strong indicator of the body's overall health (it needs to be balanced with no excess or deficiency).

Another point is not to overload your body with too many sessions. I've had an overload doing sessions without a break and this (in the past) has led to me not feeling any prostatic pleasure. I remember asking myself the question: Did I unlearn how it works? After regularizing the sessions, the pleasure is constant, that is, it did not happen again. It seems to me that excess sessions can generate insensitivity in the region.

Good luck

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@plugnduck 

The first question is : What is your perception of this pleasure? Did you like what you felt?

Be prepared that tends to increase ...

This is one of the ways, I hope you come so intensely in the next ones to the point where you won't be able to reason 😉

 

Congratulations ! 😀

I dont know what exactly you mean by the question of what is my perception of the pleasure. I did like it, it was pleasurable 😀

@plugnduck congrats on your progress!  I am jealous!