coconut oil

Badger,

Using the coconut oil softgel as a suppository may have the advantage of ease of use and being a rather benign oil but I question its value as a lubricant as you will have to wait for the softgel envelope to dissolve before it can release the oil into the rectum to actually function as a lubricant. The gelatin capsule was designed to be thick enough to readily dissolve in the high acidity, high moisture environment of the stomach. I have no idea how long it would take to dissolve in the dryer and lower acidic environment of the rectum. I tend to be rather impatient, waiting 15-20-? minutes before I can start to enjoy myself would be a real turn-off. I find it takes less than a minute to slather natural jelly on my little toy and gently insert it to get me going quite nicely. Cleanup is pretty easy because the jelly doesn't tend to migrate everywhere, a simple wipe with toilet paper and you're good to get back to the rest of your day with an anus that feels like it got a chapstick massage, soft and supple.

Would these work, or is the softgel a problem?

I'm no expert, but I think the gel capsule itself has to be digested to get access to the oil... in other words I'm not sure if the capsule would just dissolve in your rectum, or even if it did dissolve, how long it would take to do so. Maybe you could buy some, and try dropping one in a glass of body temp water and see what happens?

Heh... I think Aneros should build a lab somewhere, and staff it with a cadre of Mad Butt-lube Scientists, all working on developing the perfect natural lubricant for the perfect Aneros session... 😉

Mwuh hahahahahaha!

(Mad Butt-lube Scientist laugh)

Big Guy...If we could just be ssooo lucky!

I recently tried and session with Spectrum Organic All Vegetable Shortening and was surprising disappointed with the results. Even though the texture is very similar to Crisco, it is fluffier, and appears to not stick as well to the surface. It just felt like the coconut oil did a better job, even though there was visibly less remaining on the surface after use.

Hi All,
We have been doing some experimenting over on this discussion topic.

http://www.aneros.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2838

It may be something worth trying. I have added some coconut oil and shea butter (All natural)
together with much success.

here is the latest update on my experimentation w/ coconut oil...

i went up to 5cc injected.

seems to work fine, at least for the 3/4 hour peridise sessions i have been able to squeeze in.

an important indicator of the effectiveness of the lube, to me, is if i pull the unit out and change models, say, at the 1/2 hour mark, if the new one slides right in. and, yep, that happened.

coconut oil (refined) seems to turn liquid somewhere near 76 degrees, which is convenient for getting it into the syringe.

so, at this point, i am assuming this will be my lube going forward, and feel reasonably confident in recommending it to those who are wary of the water based lubes.

one thing to note: with the water based lubes, they seemed to disappear inside me (ie, get absorbed eventually). with the coconut oil (5cc) sometime later i'll have a mini-poop in which it seems to come out. i consider that a good thing, as the absorption of the water based lubes is what makes me want to avoid it.

darwin

I have the same feeling about the water based lubes staying inside. I am more comfortable with the coconut oil leaving the system.

I have also instinctively switched to different models within a give coconut session. It seems like I am getting longer session using that method.

I've been having good success with the coconut oil as well, although I measure out about 3-4cc and then put it in the refrigerator. As it solidifies I mold it into a ball and let completely firm up. Insertion into the anus then melts it and coats the inside just fine.

When I'm done I usually take the syringe I have and fill it up with 10cc of water, inject that then repeat once more. I sort of swirl it around so to speak then evacuate on the toilet. A lot of the oil comes out that way.

Mindgasm

The little ball idea sounds pretty good. The coconut oil in the form of an icecube can be a bit jagged at times, even though it begins to melt on contact. 😆

Yeah, it's not too bad. I usually form it together at room temperature, and it slowly starts melting in my fingers, so that sort of smooths it out. Then let sit in the fridge for about 15 minutes or more and it is quite solid. It does start melting as you grab it and insert it, but that is a good thing. Sometimes a little extra lube down there already helps insertion if you are extra sensitive.

Darwin

Hi I am vary new to this, although I have had the SGX and MGX for about two years, with very limited success. However this morning, have read about cocconut oil, I looked for some in the kitchen, found none, but decided to try olive oil. Extra virgine of coarse. I inserted 10mls and started on my side, then onto back with knees bent, then over onto front. This is when it started. I tried to relax and let it take me over instead of tensing up. It worked better than ever before. Not the super O, or even an O, but very nice for about 20 mins.
I know this works, although it hasnt happened for me yet, but I will keep trying. I am off on a course for two weeks soon, and plan to take my Aneros and try every night. Sleep with it in and see what happens.
Must try that coccont oil.

Regards,,,,,,,Slappy 🙂

Slappy

That is a lot of oil, especially for the SGX or MGX (smaller units need less oil unlike the Progasm).

Try for 4 or 5 mls, maybe even less...

Olive oil is thicker and too much may impede the contact/pressure of the Aneros.

Besides, it is a high concentration to be in an area that absorbs fluids into the bloodstream...

just two cents...

Virg

This coconut oil thread seems to have a life of its own!

I stumbled across a cigar tube this week. I got to thinkin' which is generally dangerous. I melted some of my virgin/unrefined coconut oil and filled up the tube a bit (I did not measure) and I closed up the tube and put it in the fridge. After about 15 minutes, I put it in the freezer for about 5. It was pretty solid. I then warmed the tube in my hands until the oil came out in a piece. I was able to insert that bad boy right on in without any fuss. I left a piece in the tube so I got that out and with the rounded end was able to fire that right on in as well. The rounded part was what I had in mind for an easy insert, but I did alright without it. I am sure I was WAY over on the amount of oil, but what the heck. I had a pretty decent session with it. I went from the smaller Peridise to the Maximus then back to the larger Peridise. A triple header!

I just Googled "suppository mold" and found these:

http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/2,318.html

Disposable molds come in 1.3cc to 2.4cc in 100 count packs for $8.00, just the job for making coconut oil suppositories to keep in the freezer. Just warm up the oil and fill a few molds using a syringe and pop 'em in the freezer.

I'm going to order some ...

So I looked at getting a syringe to fill the molds and found these:

http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/4,2237.html

At 100 for $10.85 I could just use one of those to give myself up to 3cc of liquid coconut oil and then chuck it away.

This may sound a bit silly but I have been using a mellon baller to form a prefectly round suppository. I use the thumb sized end and just scrape the solid state oil to form the ball, pop it out & put it in the freezer. Way to simple but very effective.

Hello Pmagr, that's not silly at all; it's brilliant! Thanks. Must try ...

I have thought about using a 2oz. tear drop fishing weight mold. that way u could make a few at a time and cut off the little end and use that end as the insertion end as it would taper. may have to get me a mold.

Since it's a bit pricey, I have a question before purchasing (which will probably illustrate my complete ignorance of how the body works):

As a veggie/pretty much vegan, I don't eat much saturated fat, so that whenever I do (fried foods, etc.) I get ill. Does this mean using coconut oil as lube might make me queasy when it's absorbed into the bloodstream? It seems like bypassing the stomach would solve that problem, but I just thought I'd check and see if anyone has had an issue with the sat fats.

Julie,

While it is hard to know precisely how much of an oil like this would be absorbed, it should be noted that many of the physical effects that people associate with fried foods have a great deal more to do with the chemical changes that take place when one heats an oil to high temperature. Furthermore, if you are consuming deep fried foods, know that the oil is heated and re-heated often many times. In addition while certain vegetable oils have a resistance to going rancid, exposure to high temperatures can change that rapidly.

That said, coconut oil is certainly not the only lubricant out there. (This thread developed out of the desire of some who were looking for an alternative) Check out the WIKI in the Getting Started section under Lubrication for more information on personal lubrication.

BF Mayfield

So I looked at getting a syringe to fill the molds and found these:

http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/4,2237.html

At 100 for $10.85 I could just use one of those to give myself up to 3cc of liquid coconut oil and then chuck it away.

this seems like a great deal!

(1) cheap!!!
(2) latex free, so, if you don't want to chuck em away, they won't be destroyed by oil based lube. ie, even a few at this price would be great.
(3) much skinnier than the other latex-free syringe discovered (walgreens), so will be much friendlier to insert.
(4) looks like the nose might be the same size ast the syringe sold by aneros, which means it might be compatible with the nozzle they supply for even friendlier insertion.

GT, have you ordered these?

darwin

Hello Darwin,

I haven't ordered any yet as I was contemplating Pmagr's great idea of using a mellon baller. My idea of chucking the syringes away after use was so I would not have to be bothered washing 'em.

But now I realize that when the weather is cooler then I'd need to warm up the oil to get it into the syringe. So now I'm thinking the suppository molds are a better idea than the syringes, but I'd need a syringe to fill the molds. But this way I'd make a few dozen suppositories at the same time.

Still, Pmagr's mellon baller may be the best idea yet, because then I would always keep the coconut oil in the fridge and just make one ball when needed and plonk it in the freezer.

For now I'm cooling the massager in the fridge and coating it with liquid coconut oil, but now it's so warm here that the oil is very thin and runs off before having time to solidify and stick to the massager. So I've been putting the oil in the fridge for a few minutes first so it becomes thicker before applying to the massager.

GT

Just took a look at melon ballers on line. Most don't state the diameter and those that do are all too big. Smallest I saw was 1.125'' dia which is 12cc. Diameter is quite critical:

0.500" = 1cc
0.625'' = 2cc
0.700'' = 3cc
1.000'' = 9cc
1.125'' = 12cc
1.200'' = 15cc
1.375'' = 20cc

These of course assume we get a perfectly round ball. So I'd be looking for something no bigger than 0.7'' diameter.

As yet undecided ...

Health researchers are now coming to find out that the natural oils used by humans for hundreds if not thousands of years are actually the best ones for us. There has been a lot of misinformation about oils in the past 30 or 40 years due to bad research about cholesterol and heavy promotion by the soy oil industry.

Natural fats like butter or ghee, cold pressed olive oil and palm and coconut oil are all good for you. Processed fats are bad for you (general vegetable oils don't seem to make the grade - as they are heavily processed and mostly contain soya which is really bad for you).

Palm oil and coconut oil have been used extensively around the world for thousands of years. Coconut oil is now found to promote thyroid health (while soy oil is really bad for your thyroid). I would think that a teaspoon of coconut oil up your bum every day will have no health risks whatsoever - certainly not compared to the transfats you consume in your diet every time you eat a donut, factory made biscuits or cakes or pastry goods, factory made pizza whatever.

lie back and enjoy it guys..

Coconut oil is much healthier than chemical lubes.

Do note that any type of oil will cause rubber condoms or toys to perish.

Well , forget about these suppository molds and syringes:

http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/2,318.html
http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/4,2237.html

They have a minimum order of $75 and will not sell to private individuals.

OK, found these and ordered both:

http://healthcarelogistics.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=16031
http://healthcarelogistics.com/default.aspx?page=item%20detail&itemcode=10258

Price is still good.

Hi guys,

I did some further stove top mix experiments with the Natural Jelly recipe (see - http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/best-lube-probe-thick-rich-best-price-walgreens-com-11942/index2.html#post70835 discussion). I tried olive oil and coconut oil variations from the original almond oil ingredient. The olive oil mixture is virtually the same as the almond oil, but the cooled version with coconut oil is considerably stiffer, thus making its use for suppositories a distinct possibility as well as a surface applied lube for the Aneros.
My biggest objection to the use of natural oils alone is that as they are warmed by body temperature they become less viscous, more diffuse and lose their lubricity as a result. They can not maintain a good film of viscous material on the surface of the massager and thus diminish their lubricating properties.
The Natural Jelly formula contains beeswax which has some unique qualities : it is not water soluble and thus does not get absorbed through the rectum into the blood stream, when combined with these natural oils it slows down their absorption as well; it does not lose nearly as much viscosity at body temperature as do the natural oils, it has a natural affinity to coat the plastic of the Aneros massager with a thin film which does not easily squeegee off via skin contact; it doesn’t tend to migrate and diffuse itself at body temperature, thus it stays pretty much right where you put it; it is long lasting and doesn’t seem to break down during usage.
About the only drawback I’ve found to the Natural Jelly is that it has a slightly greasy feel very much like “Vasoline” jelly with similar clean-up issues, but this is minor compared to all its advantages.

Geez! Many thanks to GrandTiger, rumel, Pmagr, et. al for all the effort and posting... I've been busy for the last week or 2, and haven't had much time for on-line activity. It's gonna take a week or 2 just to try the different ideas you guys have posted, especially rumel's recipe ;-). But, as they say, "it's a dirty job, but someone has to do it"!

I'm currently still just using coconut oil, and after about a month and a 1/2 I'm starting to have that nice tingly sensation throughout my entire lower abdomen, and especially along the underside of the length of my penis after about 30 minutes. It's very pleasant, and I currently find an hour or so of that to be very warming and satisfying. I've stopped "pushing" for specific results, (something I fell into when I first started... being a goal oriented person, and all... ;-)). I do find that the oils work much better for me personally, (more movement, longevity, etc.), than the commercial lubes do, although the commercial lubes work in a pinch. Thanks again for the research and posting!

I use coconut oil and like it. Also use it for cooking and on body. If it is solidified I have warmed it slightly and then used it in a syringe.

I have also ordered J-Lube that you mix with water. This creates a very nice slippery lube and it comes in powder form.

So I looked at getting a syringe to fill the molds and found these:

http://shop.tps-online.com/browse.cfm/4,2237.html

At 100 for $10.85 I could just use one of those to give myself up to 3cc of liquid coconut oil and then chuck it away.

GT-

i decided i wanted to get this. but the site says it is wholesale only, and requires proof of retail certificate.

were you able to purchase them?

here is another site where you can get latex free syringes (you need latex free if you want to use oil-based lube). i had previously gotten the 10ml one from walgreens, but, it is kind of fat, so it is hard to insert.

http://www.healthaccessories.com/ezy_dose/oral_syringes.htm

darwin

Antiseptic & Antibiotic Properties

This is a bump of a four-year old thread on Coconut Oil as an anal lube.

Late last week one of the U.S. network news shows in it's "medical segment" mentioned that Coconut Oil might be good for dental care due to it's anti-biotic/anti-bacterial properties.

I've ceased using soaps and detergents that contain Triclosan or similar antiseptics so that announcement caught my interest. I'm also part of the 'cheering section' for Shea Butter + Coconut Oil lubes including Rumel's Natural Jelly which is a compound of Shea Butter, Beeswax and a natural oil (vegetable, seed etc.).

Goggle Scholar came up with a raft of peer reviewed papers on the Coconut oil topic. Below is a link to one concerning the healing of wounds in 'young rats.' 😆

So, aside from the anti-bacterial properties of Beeswax, Coconut Oil might be just the thing for anal and periineal hygiene.

-- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20523108 --

A more complete discussion of natural oil compounds for session lube is in Love_is's comprehensive thread on Shea Butter lubes:

-- https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/10363 --