Changes via The Journey.

My journey started 20 years ago - when my marriage went recently sexless [as in less than 10 times a year, more specifically 2 to 4 times per year].  To make a long story short, prostate stimulation via aneros and other high quality safe prostate devices allowed me sexual pleasure, made me more open minded, calmer, and led to a better relationship with my asexual wife.  It brought me peace and contentment.  

@rockwellcollinshf2050 

Thats so cool bro! Totally get the calmer part,I used to be proper uptight lol Too cool for school now 😉

Posted by: @helghast

I used to be proper uptight lol

Posted by: @rockwellcollinshf2050

made me more open minded, calmer,

Yes.  If we’re not openminded we won’t allow ourselves to try.  If the pelvic floor cannot be let properly relax, we’re not going to have a good time comfortably inserting a small Aneros.  If we’re not calm we will overlook our body’s talk once inside.  Nice topic, more to say later if I can take the time to write it; happy for the benefits this practice has bought you.

@rockwellcollinshf2050 I'm in the same situation as you. I have an asexual wife.  Haven't had PIV sex since 2016 and she hasn't let me go down on her since 2017. The relationship hasn't changed much other than that this is no sex. Intimacy is not that great either and looking back it never was. The Aneros journey has probably kept me from having an affair that may have eventually led to a divorce.  Aneros is the only sexual outlet that I have now and I'm OK with that.   Been married to her for so long and love her so much that splitting up is totally out of the question.

The biggest change for me has been the ability to relax. I never really realized how uptight I was until the focused relaxation of the journey highlighted my constant tension. I, like a few others here, am in a largely sexless marriage and my weekly practice has tempered that situation to a manageable extent. I do have a dream that I will introduce her to my new multi-orgasmic abilities and that will reignite the passion. I would love to get her enthusiastically involved in my journey. 

@reddog152

Thanks,that was mainly what i was wondering,if the journey had changed anything about the guy. Do you think there’s any realistic chance of the dream coming true? 

@studmouse47 ‘s post reads like a peek into my future.

@reddog152 your dream is something I began to broach in March; and noted in that month’s entry in my main thread.  Last I recall were 1 or 2 weekends of groundbreaking, increased pillow talk, which was a high of sorts.  But then the bedroom lay still for weeks with a cough she developed and since recovered.  Then a pocket of success.  Then five sexless weekends elapsed, for one reason or another.  I hope to pick up again soon.

So I’m not saying that to discourage you, but to not let that hope balloon soar too high yet.  Still, go for it!  We have nothing to lose.  Some of us have even less “nothing” to lose than others.  It can make for a interesting talk in any case, regardless of whatever details you let loose on how you made your self-discovery.

Best to all, and especially those with a sexual-interest gap with their partners/wives- I feel for you.

Posted by: @helghast

@reddog152

Thanks,that was mainly what i was wondering,if the journey had changed anything about the guy. Do you think there’s any realistic chance of the dream coming true? 

I do believe that there's a chance. She knows about my use but I have just recently achieved success as far as Super-Os go. I have so far only achieved them with THC and she is on board with that substance. I intend to inform her of my special ability and ask her to get involved. In past conversations she seems to have suffered from the romantic notion that I should be able to derive pleasure from her alone. I think we can get past that since she has her toys as well and I think the boat should float both ways. We'll see!

@Helghast

I’m happy for you.  Making this discovery at this stage of life (assuming you are almost mid way?) and gaining this new perspective and enhanced relationship with your wife is a real gift.  
This journey has really turned my outlook upside down.  I never in my wildest dreams thought I was capable of experiencing such pleasure. Now I am wondering what else I’m capable of, what else am I missing out on, there must be more.  I have started searching for some answers and I’m currently taking a 9 week online course called “The Tantric Man Experience” .  If you asked me 2 years ago if I’d consider embarking on a more spiritual path I wouldn’t have had a clue what that meant.   I have lived my entire life pursuing material wealth, thinking success was about providing abundance for my wife and children and great sex was only about ejaculation and how fast and how many orgasms I could give my wife.

This perspective has changed now and quite frankly I’m a little lost.  Who knew this little Aneros device and learning from this community would lead to such an awakening.  I’m very grateful for the discovery and really wish I could share it with the men in my life, particularly my sons but we all know how difficult that is.

To answer your question, definitely better !
Great topic Helghast, thank you for asking.  

@reddog152 

Dont hold off too long. Maybe she can help you get over the line fully when sober,or high if that’s what it takes. Maybe explain what prostate massage can do,that she could help you have multiple orgasm,more pleasure,more everything! 
I’d defo be asking how come women can have a box of vibes but we can’t,that’s inequality lol

Hey,if she really thinks the show should be all about her,she has fingers! They double up with blowjobs very well haha! 🙂 Maybe she should crack on and sort that gland out herself!

@trigger 

Posted by: @trigger

I’m very grateful for the discovery and really wish I could share it with the men in my life, particularly my sons but we all know how difficult that is.

Yea,the ultimate conundrum. Maybe it’s about time the birds and the bees talk got an upgrade. “Son,how much do you know about your prostate? Let dad teach you something they don’t teach in schools ” 🙂 Hahaha.  That could be an awkward chat!

My journey started in 2019 and I am still traveling. A lot of people here observed a lot of positive results, while I am still undecided what I make from all of this. I guess it's very difficult to separate this journey from other parts of life, which for me haven't been very positive in the last few years.

It was definitely my first super O that changed everything - made me question my own identity, what I want from life. I still haven't got an answer.

Nonetheless, aneros and prostate pleasure made me understand how much I don't know about myself and what I'm capable of.

@pirontras 

Posted by: @pirontras

Nonetheless, aneros and prostate pleasure made me understand how much I don't know about myself and what I'm capable of.

This. Think most guys could testify that they’d no idea this was even possible. Even when I first brought it to the wide. We messed around with a toy,nothing happened and she just rolled her eyes when i didn’t want to give up. She kinda looked at me like I was the tin hat brigade hahaha.

@pirontras 

I get you, the contrast between Super-O inner life and the real outside world can be very jarring. It's even more jarring when the outside world does not seem to be cooperating all that much. 

Then we are left with a ton of questions... There is a deeper philosophical path that starts when we reach the first big Os. I used to think that everything was very cut and dry in the world, now I'm not so sure. One thing that really stuck with me is this : 

"Before enlightenment; chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment; chop wood, carry water."

It does not matter how much pleasure you get, and for how long, at one point you need to go back.

Posted by: @zentai

It does not matter how much pleasure you get, and for how long, at one point you need to go back.

This sounds like addiction to a degree.

@helghast @trigger

Posted by: @trigger

 I’m very grateful for the discovery and really wish I could share it with the men in my life, particularly my sons but we all know how difficult that is.

We all know someone (in my case, my father) who died of prostate cancer. I have only married daughters, but indeed, speaking to other guys about it can be difficult. But in the interest of prostate health, I would find an article (or 10!) online and maybe email them the websites and volunteer that you intend to "check it out". That would at least lay groundwork for the interest. At a later time, you could drop the hint about experiencing multiple orgasms - I doubt many guys would ignore the sound of that!

I have mentioned prostate orgasms to one of my sons in law, and he was blown away by me mentioning multiple orgasms during intercourse in a more-discussed-than-normal chat we had. His situation is difficult. Shortly after they married, he developed testicular cancer and had to have orchidectomy (surgical removal of the testicle). He is also a survivor of sexual assault during his youth. Though I didn't mention prostate massagers when I mentioned prostate massage, he confided that during intercourse with my daughter, she had inserted a finger in his rectum (likely she read about it somewhere) and it made him cry - doubtless hearkening back to the assault. If we ever broach the subject again, I might suggest external prostate massage.

Posted by: @zentai

Posted by: @zentai

It does not matter how much pleasure you get, and for how long, at one point you need to go back.

This sounds like addiction to a degree.

That's one way to look at it, another would be that even if you found out that being in a Super-O state as often as you can is the meaning of life, or that it's a form of Nirvana, where do you go from there ? Surely this needs to expand outside of your own bedroom and into the world, which is not easy to do. How do you apply the lessons you learned from your sessions to other aspects of your life ? 

@zentai 

Just not sure how moaning, shaking and writhing in pleasure gets applied to other aspects of life....

Posted by: @zentai

a form of Nirvana, where do you go from there ?

You don’t need to go anywhere. We visit orgasm,we can’t stay indefinitely. We have other things to do. We gotta eat. We gotta raise children. We gotta do a lot of things.

Posted by: @pablito1963

Though I didn't mention prostate massagers when I mentioned prostate massage, he confided that during intercourse with my daughter, she had inserted a finger in his rectum (likely she read about it somewhere) and it made him cry - doubtless hearkening back to the assault. If we ever broach the subject again, I might suggest external prostate massage.

Thanks for sharing. I would suggest A-Less if penetration is going to be too traumatic. Although it’s good to know the wife was happy to go in. Sounds to me like she might be happy to explore the journey with him. It’d be great if he started to learn about the journey and perhaps try again. Internal massage is pretty great,and always trumps external imo.

Posted by: @pablito1963

@zentai 

Just not sure how moaning, shaking and writhing in pleasure gets applied to other aspects of life....

Hehe, that specific part may not apply to day to day life outside the house. But if life is about maximizing happiness, and Super-Os bring awesome happiness, maybe the ways we reach Super-Os can be applied elsewhere ? Is it about finding contentment, or letting go, or living in the moment ?

One takeaway for me is that bliss is mostly all in one's mind and does not need to be triggered by external factors. This is quite a big realization. Boundless joy is something you can create by yourself, for yourself. 

I’ve wanted to start a topic like this for awhile! Thanks @Helghast for starting this. I have a more…”surface-level” answer in mind, not to say that’s good or bad compared to the answers about spiritual enlightenment or relationships, just different. 

After achieving prostate orgasms, I became more interested in sex/orgasms in general, and one of the ways I scratched this itch was listening to different sex podcasts. Some of the podcasts talked in general about how if you optimize or “level-up” your sexual experiences, you’ll want to optimize other parts of your life, like work, relationships, health, etc. I scoffed at a bit at these, for two reasons: 1. My life seemed fine as is, and 2. I was listening to learn about sex, and discussing work in particular would immediately turn me off.

Now, I can say that some of what they were saying rings true for me personally. Not the work part, as I feel fine with my work and have no plans to optimize things, as I wouldn’t see any benefit from that. But in particular health and wellness I’ve been trying to do better. My doctor for a couple of years has warned me that my cholesterol is genetically high and I may need medication. I’m not opposed to medication (I take it religiously for my ulcerative colitis), but was concerned that introducing new medication might impact my prostate orgasms. So I started working out more and eating more carefully and got my cholesterol down. I also thought that being in shape and eating healthier might optimize my sexual experience, in terms of specifically my abs contracting during orgasm or being able to feel better physically performing  sex (not that I felt bad, but just trying to optimize the experience for both my wife and I).  

Then, looking and feeling in better shape, I thought it would be nice to optimize some other parts of my looks, so that I’d look better for myself and my wife, including while I’m having orgasms/sex sessions. So I started shaving my chest/back/genitals (I was pretty hairy, which my wife and I didn’t mind, but I like being smooth and shaved better and turns me on more during sex/sessions). This also helped with body odor (again, not that I was bad in this area, but now I’m objectively better). I also started using safe natural body deodorant on my genitals, anus and bottom of feet. Most of this is for myself, although my wife certainly appreciates it but stresses that she doesn’t need it. But I like looking in the mirror more now and seeing how smooth and shaved I am. It just makes me feel more erotic in general. 

It’s minorly improved my relationship and inner peace, but I didn’t really have many complaints before my journey, so nothing major comes to mind. The big things have again been more “surface-level” in terms of health and wellness. 

Posted by: @helghast

We gotta do a lot of things.

This is going to sound crazy, but... Super-O sessions  don't cost anything, they don't use gas or electricity, they don't pollute, zero strain on the supply chain, etc. The equipment does not wear out, basically S-Os are great for the environment. Less other things, more S-Os I say ! 

Of course we can only visit and we can't stay all the time and we have responsibilities . But you'd have to agree that a society where a majority of people would be able to experience Super-Os would be a very different one than what we have right now. I can't see how it would not be better. That would go much further than individual changes from the journey. 

  Not sure how more people having super Os would make the world a better place.Were a pretty exclusive group, and I for one like  that about us.    

@tbob 

Super Os are definitely a path towards making the world a better place.

From an environmentalist perspective, as @zentai says, they are pretty low energy (though lubricant is probably an ecological disaster…)

From a relationship perspective, they ease sexual frustration in the case of sexless couples, and they supercharge sex in sex-filled relationships.

From a feminist perspective, they teach men what penetration feels like, hopefully showing them how invasive it is and teaching them about respect of others internal genitals.

From a community perspective, they make people more satisfied and less likely to be angry at others around them.

@divine_o 

Yes to everything ! Of course we need lube and towels and electricity to power the internet so we can access the Forum, anything we choose to do besides looking at the clouds is bound to pollute a little bit. 

For single guys, S-O sessions are much more satisfying and closer to sex than just jerking off. 

Feminist perspective ? Why not ! At the very least it shows guys how to approach preparation for anal sex, which is a lot different than what "education" from porn shows us. 

I completely agree with the community benefits, I'm convinced people would be more chill and less angry in general. Small steps towards world peace, right ? 

More ideas :

If it comes to that, for people with addictive personalities, a Super-O addiction is certainly much "better" than other addictions. I think that S-Os also have the same potential as psychedelics to create a "reset" in one's mind and maybe help with certain mental health issues, or at least open the mind to greater possibilities. 

It's good for general cardiovascular health, and it's a great motivation for staying fit and eating well. Adopting a Super-O lifestyle should definitely be a thing. 

I started this "journey" 8 years ago, it was pleasurable from the start, but I only achieved real breakthough recently, with the help of THC (I m living in Canada).
I'm now able to approach those levels of pleasure without THC assistance. I even realize that a device was not mandatory.
That's insane, I still have difficulties to understand why "nature" made it so complex. It's even funny how strange this full journey is... A lot of men would qualify this as a little bit ridiculous, it was what I would have said before my 40s, sad i know. I'm straight and only my girlfriend knows, i'm still not comfortable to speak about it (what is also sad).

My biggest discovery is that my mind and body were reluctant to such amount of pleasure, there was a level of "resistance", of "non-acceptance" of what is truly possible. I suppose my mind was limited by its own thoughts, expectations based on memory and past experiences.
This explain why I was not fully relaxed, even if I thought I was.
It's really life changing, the art of letting go, and letting things happen at the same time. Especially around my 50s.
I want to believe the mind part of this journey may be really useful in my spiritual life.
Accept what life is, do not resist to anything, let reality flows around yoursef, ignore thoughts and emotions, do not expect anything.
And maybe, one day, Pleasure, Joy may exceed what you think possible.

Posted by: @mistral

i'm still not comfortable to speak about it

You have a home here, and things to give voice (wow):

My biggest discovery is that my mind and body were reluctant to such amount of pleasure, there was a level of "resistance", of "non-acceptance" of what is truly possible.

It's really life changing, the art of letting go, and letting things happen at the same time.

For me, keep “pleasure”, or replace that word with any other dreamed-about attainment, and I faintly can make out the way forward in my life in both of your statements.

Accept what life is, do not resist to anything, let reality flows around yoursef, ignore thoughts and emotions, do not expect anything.

Wish I could- my brain seems “overclocked” and it ain’t all good.  The generation of “waste heat” or “waste thoughts” for one.  The former, the least useful form use of energy. Not even “all thrust, no vector”.  FWIW, non-THC user / Aneros succeeder here. 

Posted by: @mistral

I still have difficulties to understand why "nature" made it so complex. It's even funny how strange this full journey is... A lot of men would qualify this as a little bit ridiculous,

Perhaps if we hadn’t so fully absorbed the socialized  reductionist view that his penis is a man’s be-all and end-all and seemingly stand-in for his entire masculinity, we would have a crack left in the door for our own exploration earlier in life.  Thus it would not have struck us as complex/strange/funny?