Book club- male body experiencing things in "A Case Study of an ESR Woman with Non-Genital or Never-Ending Orgasms (NEOs)..."

What a great surprise this morning ! I just printed this out and I'll "attack" it a bit later. This looks like a fantastic read. 

Right of the bat I'd say that the most significant difference between "male" and "female" Os is the refractory period. The orgasms themselves might be the same, but most men do not get to climb the ladder to the same level women can. The refractory period just won't let it happen. 

*Boink!* In that example, the big spiky thing is the refractory period... 

(Underscores for emphasis) It is the same for men. We hear of, accept, and believe our limitations! Overcoming that takes strong effort- no secret to journeymen.

Yes, men are a dick to everyone.  Women can also be dicks, and shape the norms of sexual behaviors in such ways that neither men or women will get to enjoy the good Os. 

Posted by: @zentai

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Right of the bat I'd say that the most significant difference between "male" and "female" Os is the refractory period. The orgasms themselves might be the same, but most men do not get to climb the ladder to the same level women can.

I must not have specified this in my excitement to share ideas.  But for the sake of my no-dichotomy argument, I ignored our nerfed penis pathway to orgasm.  And “success dependent on the extent of our developed awareness” refers to, parity rests on male rewiring.  With my explanation that dicks are off of the table, do you now suppose with me, @zentai, that both genders can climb the same ladder or swing on the same harmonic* swing ?  : ).  How about to the same level: Yes?  Again not saying orgasms of the clitoral and penile orgasms are the same: rather, the other ones!

*The Open Orgasm PDF in https://community.aneros.com/forum/general-discussion/i-need-help-tracking-down-an-aneros-e-book/#post-119126

When I saw with dry and super O I shared at least 6 of the starred characteristics from the PDF of ESR women, I thought “bingo”, an orgasm is an orgasm.  I thought other rewired men too might enjoy seeing themselves in the p. 696 bullet points.

Heck, even our dicks are dicks!  They’ve apt to leave owner and partner wanting a bigger bite of the totality of sexual capacity and enjoyment.

Thanks for your reply and humorous spiky picture; these I’ve now depicted are the spikes of my liking.  I look forward to your comments following your review of the PDF.

I answered too quickly, thinking we were already in the context of male multiple Os. The right way to say it is that there is a very strong perceived difference between male and female Os. But as they say, perception is reality. For 99.9% of men, an orgasm does not last long and you can only have one, even in porn. Now I use porn because even there, where everything is turned up to 11, while some men can last a long while, they come only once. Even in a fantasy setting ! And they need to shoot sperm everywhere to show that they did, indeed, have an orgasm, otherwise is does not count. Once again, an orgasm without an ejaculation, thus, the idea of male multiples, hardly even exists. 

Anyway, I got off track already, I'm mostly certain by now that a man's S-O and a woman's S-O are the same. I think we discussed earlier that men having trouble achieving S-Os might be experiencing something similar to women who have trouble orgasming, that would be another thing we share.

Posted by: @helical

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And “success dependent on the extent of our developed awareness” refers to, parity rests on male rewiring.  With my explanation that dicks are off of the table, do you now suppose with me, @zentai, that both genders can climb the same ladder or swing on the same harmonic* swing ?  : ).  How about to the same level: Yes?  Again not saying orgasms of the clitoral and penile orgasms are the same: rather, the other ones!

Yes. A man capable of orgasming without triggering the refractory period is probably experiencing the same feelings as a woman achieving multiple Os. Like you I think it would not make sense to have two different "sets" of nervous pathways etc. when one can easily be used for both men and women. I don't think men and women experience thirst, hunger, pain in different ways, either.  

I've yet to read to PDF, but I should be able to do so shortly. 

I did a first pass and I ended up with more questions than at the start, and maybe some concerns... 

First, the evaluation that only a small % of women would be able to achieve NEOs. Is that really the case ? And would that be the same for men, too ? I was always under the impression that Super-Os were attainable by the majority of men under the right mental / physical training regimen. Maybe this is different for men ? 

Another thing is that the female test-subject in the study, Afros, is said to be unique in all medical literature for her ability to sustain NEOs. Yet, I can, or at least I could, at what I think is a similar level. Is this all up to random genetic lottery ? Because, you know,  you can't teach that...

On the other hand, it's pretty interesting to see that calm seas are probably oxytocin Os, and rough seas, more of a dopamine O. The study does not go there but this is my guess based on the description of the orgasms in the study. 

More to the point, I think that chained male Super-Os are very similar to female NEOs or might be identical. I say might be, because I believe that testosterone levels would play a role here, but I'm not sure we'll ever know... Maybe it does not matter and they are close enough anyway. 

I need to go over the study again, as I skipped the tables and graphs since they were a bit hard to read on my printed copy. 

Now I'm wondering if Afros is single...  

Still reading this excellent article but a couple of observations; figure 4 shows the relative importance of different stimulation centers and in all categories the mind component has the highest peak. Hmmm, sounds familiar! Haha 

Another observation I take from a sub-Reddit called orgasmic contractions that has videos of women's orgasms. Their contractions exactly mirror the male 0.8 second initial interval and their sphincter and vulva alternate pulses just like ours. 

One thing I think I noticed that is different is that when their orgasm starts it seems to be from a condition of bearing down rather than contracting.

What a great article! 

https://www.reddit.com/user/_Flat_Bed_/comments/y91de2/miss_impulse_orgasm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Here is a perfect example that I think is hot as hell.