Avoiding the temptation to jerk

You are correct, avoid jerking entirely, focus on the Prostate and you might be very surprised what you find! The Prostate orgasm is unsurpassed in the level and duration of pleasure to be enjoyed! It's worth the effort!

TG

*Warning: a little explicit*

So I've had the aneros for almost 2 years now. I have both the Helix and Progasm and normally used both as just a way of jacking off. I watch porn, contract a bit, play with the sensitive parts, then usually after an hour my dick is throbbing and I shoot my load.
Seems like you didnt even begin the rewiring.

My question is basically how far do you push yourself and is this the right way to rewiring?

I don't push myself at all, at least not in the way you're describing. Maybe spend a little time getting in the mood (mentally) before-hand. But when the aneros goes in, it's - lie down, lights off, hands by my side, eyes closed and let the aneros lead the experience. The aneros talks, my body listens.

What ever works for you, and as long as you're enjoying yourself, but for rewiring I think you're going about it all backwards. You need to take ejaculation and traditional orgasm and set them aside, let them be something you'll do later, but for now you want to see what the aneros can do by itself.

If you have a traditional orgasm on your mind the whole time, it's going to lead you in the wrong direction. Don't desire a traditional orgasm, because the way you know how to get there with your penis is different to how the aneros gets there. You end up in a situation where you think you're driving a car, but you're really flying an alien space-ship, where left is right, right is left, the gear stick fires lasers, and the gas pedal jettisons fuel into space. You have to accept that you don't know how to work this thing, even though it looks exactly like your own car. The only way to fly it is to turn on the auto-pilot. Which the aliens do telepathically by relaxing and opening themselves to the movement of the ship.
It's a weird metaphor, but I think it's fair to the mental leap you have to make.

Awesome, thanks! And I totally get your metaphor, Clenchy.

I agree, you will never rewire if your constantly thinking of ejacualation. Put it on the shelf until a later time. Also if you end a session with ejaculation then you are just strengthening the current penis/ejaculationl mindset instead of the new prostate centered mindset which is needed.

Clenchy's message is great.

One way to avoid jerking off is try to watch the porn, instead of having porn as a jerking off tool. maybe you need better and more interesting porn.

One way to avoid jerking off is try to watch the porn, instead of having porn as a jerking off tool. maybe you need better and more interesting porn.

Yea, that's what I do. That's why I like having it on during most of my session because I try to escape into it, shifting focus frequently between what's going on in my head, my body, and on the screen in the background.

As equally explicit...
Dude, fall in love with your anus! Forget the flesh-rocket for an hour, and focus on that "well of pleasure". If you need to jack off, do it one or two days before. (Some users say more like 4 days before. Others say "abandon all cock ye who enter here."). You want that prostate charged up—swollen and ready to ride. I wear a jock just to keep my eyes off what-used-to-matter-so-much (and allow access to the back, if need be). Do what you can to keep stimulation off that shaft like changing position or grabbing a pillow instead of "it".

Rewiring is for both body and mind, any external influence (porn or jack off) will interfere with the journey.

I found you can use your mind to play tricks on your body. Initially it took me a long time before the sensations started and I would lay for hours trying to reach the illusive super O. For me the answer was to limit my sessions to 1.5 hours. Even if the session was just getting going I would stop and remove the device like a naughty boy. My body then seemed to learn the time limit and the sensations would start within 5 mins and the super O hits around 1 hour.

Rewiring is for both body and mind, any external influence (porn or jack off) will interfere with the journey.

I found you can use your mind to play tricks on your body. Initially it took me a long time before the sensations started and I would lay for hours trying to reach the illusive super O. For me the answer was to limit my sessions to 1.5 hours. Even if the session was just getting going I would stop and remove the device like a naughty boy. My body then seemed to learn the time limit and the sensations would start within 5 mins and the super O hits around 1 hour.

I think this is a great comment.
I second every word.

Rewiring is for both body and mind, any external influence (porn or jack off) will interfere with the journey.

I found you can use your mind to play tricks on your body. Initially it took me a long time before the sensations started and I would lay for hours trying to reach the illusive super O. For me the answer was to limit my sessions to 1.5 hours. Even if the session was just getting going I would stop and remove the device like a naughty boy. My body then seemed to learn the time limit and the sensations would start within 5 mins and the super O hits around 1 hour.

What i find difficult to understand is what happens in that hour? do you have dry o's or nothing, just nice feelings? what is your mind doing to keep focused on being aroused, are you fantasising about something? more info, if you can, would be awesome!

I think fantasising is a mistake. Sure it might give a short boost... But I suspect it is hindering the rewire.

I think fantasising is a mistake. Sure it might give a short boost... But I suspect it is hindering the rewire.

Oops.

I find that I progress more by not watching porn at all.

You don't want to heighten the stimulation with more interesting porn, because that stimulation can dwarf that of the aneros and desensitise you somewhat. When I stop using porn long enough, I get aroused more often and it feels stronger. I feel nice feelings in my butt more frequently, and all I need for a boost is to play with my nipples.

I still get the urge to look up porn, but resisting that urge has made me a lot more sensitive. I still kept going back to it though, so I deleted the accounts I used to look it up. Now even if I feel tempted, I won't be able to look up pictures I had favorited.

Jerking off and prostate stimulation are 2 sides of the same coin(like clitoris and g-spot). Jerking off you stimulate the prostate indirectly from the outside. It's about focus, focus on the penis and you'll ejaculate, focus on the prostate and you'll start to orgasm.
If you want to jerk off like a superstar you can't keep focus on the prostate coz guess what stupid? you'll lose your erection and you obviously can't keep the focus on the penis.
The hardest part is the 10 minute mark when you're just starting the balancing act, the best part is >1 hour then you're generally so tuned into your body that you've found the golden mean and it's like experiencing both types at the same time. The only downside is your penis does get sore, the upside is once you stop jerking off you're prostate has been stimulated so much that the aftereffect is like a good Aneros session, without the Aneros in. So no lube, no mess, no awkward positions, just cumming your ass off

Ehm
What you have described in your solo sessions involving your prostate sounds like what keepitupjohnson has written about in his book, LOVE SATISFIES. Is that where you learned to do prostate/penis orgasms like the ones you describe.

I am pursuing both the aneros super O orgasms and I am also working on keepitupjohnsons solo method involving the penis and edging (not together or in concert). From what I have experienced so far solo, prostate orgasms are body rocking. Cant wait for the aneros super O

"Do dry orgasms feel the same?" Yes, you'll feel the same wonderful
feelings of release. Your throbbing, pulsing, contractions just won't
pump anything out"
This isn't the same ,I do have dry orgasms while jerking off but this feels different from ejaculating.
So on the outset his experience with dry orgasms is different. I can only get what he describes by a)achieving a type of Super O with the Aneros that indeed feels like you're ejaculating continuously b) by actually ejaculating after masturbating for at least an hour and the last ejaculation at least 3 or 4 weeks ago, then I can keep that feeling of ejaculating for quite some time afterwards.

But yeah similar with energy orgasms I suspect. I think there's a lot of overlap with a lot of people in that respect, Mantak Chia, Jack Johnson etc. For me that's the main effect. It's like powering a dynamo by jerking off, the hour mark is when that really starts to become interesting as well.

Has anyone tried using a male chastity belt? I was thinking it might help rewireing since you couldn't get any pleasure from your penis. It would almost force you to concentrate on your prostate.

Just a thought. Ideas keep popping in my head And I don't want to try anything that may be detrimental to the process.