Anyone experiencing this ?

@zentai , not really for me; all of my sessions are pre-planned (sometimes days in advance) including the selection of the toy as whispered by my prostate.  Then, my level of anticipation escalates right up to insertion time.  By then, I know what I'm getting myself into and what to expect.  I'm rarely disappointed. 

The one point I can't comprehend after each session is how come I've not reached the SO boundary since the feelings I experienced during the session is beyond pleasurable!   Oh well; I'm certainly not complaining. 

@zentai

Interesting...I've never experienced anything quite to that extent, but I have awakened in sort of auto-aless mode, and not being fully awake, thought I had a device in. I almost believe I dreamed I put one in and started a session.  This is one of my favorite things about the whole Aneros experience or rewiring if you will. Arousal involves more sensations all about the pelvic region, and I now waking up with an erection is a completely different and improved experience.

@ggringo hmm interesting. I read a lot of you posts and I think you're in a pretty unique situation.

Imagine a kind of folk tale : A young boy is tasked with catching a fox that is roaming the countryside. For a long time, he tracks the fox. The fox is quick and cunning, but in time the boy becomes quick and cunning, too. One day he corners the fox, but realise that after he catches him, it's over. He learned to love the chase, the catch is irrelevant. So he lets the fox go, to be chased again.

If it's an Eastern tale, they become best friends and play Go together.

There's some of this in The Little Prince and I stole most of it from a short story from Clifford D. Simak about a man hunting the Cytha. I think they may be relevant to your journey. 

Edit : pretty sure the Simak story is The world that couldn't be.

Edit 2 : what is your relationship to your super-O? Are you platonic friends? Are you just flirting together but nothing serious? Also added related picture.

Posted by: @regal13

@zentai

...sort of auto-aless mode, and not being fully awake, thought I had a device in. I almost believe I dreamed I put one in and started a session. 

That right there! But I'll start an aless session and "forget" I don't have a toy inserted. That's close enough for me, so this is really some kind of event that several people might have in common... do you have any other recurring patterns you can think off?

Sometimes I'll feel a sensation of heat washing over my whole body, and sometimes it's a cold feeling. It happens once, does nothing else, and I can only associate it with a particular level in the ramp-up process.

Posted by: @zentai

@ggringo hmm interesting. I read a lot of you posts and I think you're in a pretty unique situation.

Edit 2 : what is your relationship to your super-O? Are you platonic friends? Are you just flirting together but nothing serious? Also added related picture.

 

@zentai, interesting question that warranted some consideration before answering. I've been at this for almost 5-years (next month) and I've learned that the Super-O is not a myth but rather a goal for many as it was for me for a long long time.

For me now, I'll describe it this way; I feel like I'm on one rail of a railroad track and the SO is on the other. When looking at the horizon, it looks like we're destined to meet but it won't be today so I've stopped looking ahead. I now look at the voyage and the pleasures it's giving me. Indeed, the destination is not as important anymore and this for as long as the journey there is as rewarding as it has been in every session for the last year or so.  Without expectations, there are no disappointments.  

I also learned that everyone is different and I celebrate every member's success stories. I guess my statement was more about wondering how much more pleasures can be enjoyed before the ultimate level is reached.

Good vibes to you.

P.S.; I like your. jpg

@ggringo it's very interesting to learn about other people's paradigm, the mental maps that we use are fascinating to me. Your train track analogy and the way you explain it makes me think of yet another of my "events". It's basically the opposite of what you see so that in itself is something that I'll have to ponder, are they just 2 ways to look at the same thing?

I don't have a name for that one, it happens when the pleasure ramp-up is pretty quick and gets high enough that I know it can only end in succes. I start thinking, since this is inevitable, why not skip right to the O? Since in my mind, I decided that the Super-O is something that I do to myself rather than something that happens to me, nothing stops me from just getting on with it. Saves a lot of energy. Wish it happened more often but I can't control everything.

Maybe it's possible to shorten the tracks in your mind or increase speed, get the scenary looking brighter the closer you get... oh and you can meet your SO for the first time as many times as you want, you'll get a lot of opportunities to make it a perfect encounter so it's nothing to stress about. Take care! 

Posted by: @zentai

Maybe it's possible to shorten the tracks in your mind or increase speed, get the scenary looking brighter the closer you get... oh and you can meet your SO for the first time as many times as you want, you'll get a lot of opportunities to make it a perfect encounter so it's nothing to stress about. Take care! 

Every track has a switch further down and I know my rail will connect one day; no need to fasttrack.   Maybe once the ultimate goal is achieved in one's journey, it becomes easier to shoot for the pot of gold right off the bat.  

You're right,  it's fascinating to see how different minds work and how everyone approaches situations in their own fashion. 

Stay safe! 

@ggringo yeah you're right, nothing forces you to fast track.

I really respect the way you're going through your journey, I hope I don't sound like I'm trying to fix your approach, sorry if it felt like it. I think you might be exceptionally good at the "no expectation" part, which makes for a whole different experience compared to mine. 

I'm very passionate about this, as I said before, I need to rein back and let people walk their own path, finding all the little tricks and surprises and playing on your strengths is a big part of what makes this fun, having one path for everyone would take the excitement right out. Keep on track (pun intended).

Posted by: @zentai

 

I really respect the way you're going through your journey, I hope I don't sound like I'm trying to fix your approach, sorry if it felt like it. I think you might be exceptionally good at the "no expectation" part, which makes for a whole different experience compared to mine. 

I  didn't feel you were trying to fix anything and please continue to speak your mind.  This is what I like about you and everyone else here; you share what you think and you're always there to offer assistance to anyone in need.

I'm not so sure I'm that good at "no expectations"; I just detest disappointments which too often leads to frustration.   I  enjoy my journey too much to be frustrated. 

Choo-choo!

@ggringo cool, that's a relief. I just want everyone to succeed so much, I tend to go heavy on the advice sometimes. Happy to know it was not the case here. I was thinking about all of this, how near you can be from the line, or the frontier, and how wide that line can be.

There are states below the Super-O layers that are very close to the Super-O, but they're not one. And I won't try to trick anyone into labeling them as such.  But these states, you can float there for a very long time and just feel so good. That is still very powerful stuff and reaching those places is already quite an achievement.

Being there is not a consolation price and you can spend hours having the time of your life, so I know where you're coming from when you say you're not in any hurry. Years ago I would have thought that you were missing out on a lot, but I was the one missing out. Now I'm more a acquainted with *that* place and I know you can get some glorious feelings there, I go there myself quite often and never regret it.

Another event is some kind of fugue state matching a plateau. I'll be ramping up, but then I'll think of something unrelated, like needing to buy some wiper blades, and I can go on thinking that wiper blades hardly last a season now, and I can reflect on the subject without a care in the world, for quite some time. 

I think this is the same thing as falling asleep during a session, and I think it's the result of going into a session with low intentions. Enough pleasure to zone out, but not enough to really start something.  closer to meditation with the focus being wiper blades or taking out the trash. Never big problems or life questions, wondering why...

@zentai Yes sometimes I’ll be mid session and I’ll start thinking of something,or someone unrelated. 
The pleasure will recede,but I can usually clear my mind of the blockage and continue on. 
Toy perception isn’t a problem as I never use one anymore,though perhaps I should have a go,maybe all I’ve learned through aless would come into play.But I’m spoiled now with the no messy line or clean up. Bar a little pre cum in my shorts,I’m in and out clean as a whistle lol

Posted by: @helghast

Toy perception isn’t a problem as I never use one anymore,though perhaps I should have a go,maybe all I’ve learned through aless would come into play.

For sure, have a go ! I used to think that Aless was an "upgrade" compared to using a toy, but now I think that they are related, separate activities. And Aless *is* more convenient, so it's easy to concentrate on that once you can do it, but I would not say, for example : "When I was a beginner I needed the Aneros but now I don't need it anymore." Even if I do mainly Aless these days, an Aneros session once in a while hardly ever disappoints. 

Zoning out I think is something that we all experienced at some point, I find it pretty strange how it's possible to go from feeling lots of pleasure, to that same pleasure shifting to the background. The way it comes back instantly when you address the blockage, that tells me the pleasure is still there and it's only a question of focus. Might be very true in other cases. 

What I call losing toy perception, I think that when someone starts to experience this, it's the beginning of a shift, where one realises that all, or some of the pleasure doesn't come from the physical shape or size of the toy itself, and that an imaginary toy can do as well as a real one. That's a logical path to exploring Aless, but can't be the only way to get there. 

I'm still curious to know if some of these experiences are milestones on their own and how common these things are.   

Posted by: @zentai

 

One example is Rider's Remorse, that's where as the pleasure is ramping up, I'll think that I should have done something different to get an ever better session, used a different model, different lube... this causes the session to plateau until I convince myself that I made the best decision. This is pretty high in the ramp-up process.

@Zentai Gaaah this has happened to me before. Twice I've ramped up and thought "Gee, my pelvic muscles can't support the Progasm ICE best but, I bet cumming on that will be explosive", then stop the session to pee/switch out from my Helix Trident to the Progasm, and then ride some intense waves only for peristalsis to happen a bit later and remind me that no matter what the Helix would be sucked in instead. Cue disappointment at doubting choices, etc.

@poseidon bwaaah indeed ! What I do now is just tell myself that if I decided to use a certain toy, certain amount of lube etc. that's because I tought this was the right choice, so why would that be different 20 minutes later? Will switching from an Eupho to an Helix right when it's getting good and still ramping up reaaaaaaly make a major difference? In my mind it's like showing distrust at the whole process plus all my prior experience, doesn't make sense.

Bottom line, 90% of the times, making such a switch makes the session worse, I guess after x number of times it got through my thick skull hehe. When the going gets good, keep going ! 

@Zentai exactly! When the going gets good, buckle up 😉