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Hi everyone, firstly Merry Christmas, I hope you had a good one.So my topic for discussion is, I consider myself a straight man, however having never had sex with women or men (I'm 28 btw), i can't really say for sure.
Anyway, since using the aneros and browsing the forums, I have definitely felt more of an 'attraction' to bisexuality. I read more stories online of a bisexual nature, or watch both straight, gay and some bi porn at times.

I wondered if any of you that consider yourselves straight, have these thoughts nor feelings? I'm not saying it is a bad thing, I am just interested who else feels the same?
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I don't doubt you have some curiosity as we are all inquisitive by nature. But you should look up some interesting literature to the questions you are asking. There are many as you described straight men who after engaging in pornographic fantasy think they are bi or gay and discover through expirimenting that they are wrong and when they reflect upon their own nature and preferences realize they are in fact heterosexual men who are seeking a deeper more intimate contact with the opposite gender. Often finding the reason for the disconnect came from unhappiness in their relationship with their gf or spouse making them doubt their own sexuality in the present lack of intereat from their other partner. Believe it or not what you say is common. To that end if you think about it logically the attraction comes from the fact that men often look for sexual release as a method of fulfillment in intimacy and men th ink alike can find each other more available and willing than many women. It's like the lure of easy money. But the prostatic pleasure of aNero is not like a social/spiritual relationship. It is a tool. In no way replaces human relationship. It will not make you bi or gay. It will when trained however allow you more pleasure than many traditional masterbation orgasms. The question is then this, is your personal preference or desire and emotional fulfillment realized if you wake up and have another man looking down at you in the morning as you open your eyes or would you rather wake up to a woman doing the same. Just your preference. Be honest with your answer. You could easily wake up to either wi th the aNeros still inside you working it's magic.


   
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You can find more evidence to this in Willard Harley jr. 'S book, his needs her needs how to build an affair proof marriage.
A psychiatrist and relationship councilor for approx 40 years he has been instrumental in understanding the concept of emotional needs and the recourse of fulfillment and unfullfilment.


   
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Lastly, that if you get turned on with gay porn or bi porn doesn't necessarily make one gay, it is a fantasy as all porn is. But did you know the majority of shemale porn is consumed by straight men? It has all the elements that they are looking for in hair, breasts, cock (yes we look ), and feet and the combination of the shemale often fulfills the fantasy of the woman who yearns to be taken and mean it compared to the (fake) ones in the porn industry who often act as turned on as a broken bulb. Men in general desire emotionally to find women that are driven to act on their desire for sexual fulfillment. Not just release.
It's not all cases, but it should give anyone on the fence something to chew on. As I have explored all these ideas, tricked into believing what wasn't true and recanted to come full circle and know myself. I am a heterosexual, and a Dominant, at least in my sexuality. And th at is me true to my nature. I can only suggest everyone else mentally explore your own characteristics and be honest wi th them before doing things you cannot take back. Save yourselves emotional pain by taking the advice of Shakespeare, "to thine own self be true".


   
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Sure. It is a bit weird though but I understand what you're saying. I think the difference is that in the real world I have never found a man attractive, or wanted to have sex with one. Reading fantasies that revolve around my tickling fetish with another guy are hot, but like I said before, when I see men in person I don't feel any of that. No attraction at all.


   
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I think the Aneros has broadened my view but hasn't changed my preferences. I used to be very turned off by just the thought of being intimate with another guy and now the idea doesn't bother me. I am at least open to the thought of it, even if I ultimately would not go through with it. I have even had some fantasies involving other guys (albeit nothing major) but, like jja2 said, I don't feel feel any attraction to other guys in real life.


   
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I'm gay, and I have fantasies around having sex with woman too, and enjoy watching straight porn. But I'm definitely gay.

I think Gay, Bi, Straight are just markers on a very long spectrum of sexual preferences...

Straight Bi Gay

I'd guess the vast majority of people are somewhere on the line, and not right on the label.


   
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Thanks for the responses guys, I hoped it would generate some conversation as it has.@yankeecowboy, this question really stood out for me:
The question is then this, is your personal preference or desire and emotional fulfillment realized if you wake up and have another man looking down at you in the morning as you open your eyes or would you rather wake up to a woman doing the same. Just your preference. Be honest with your answer. You could easily wake up to either wi th the aNeros still inside you working it's magic.

It's interesting because, I really have no idea how I'd react; I think that being due to my complete lack of experience as a whole, but then, going on to read what @JudgeAaronSatie said:
I think the Aneros has broadened my view but hasn't changed my preferences. I used to be very turned off by just the thought of being intimate with another guy and now the idea doesn't bother me. I am at least open to the thought of it, even if I ultimately would not go through with it. I have even had some fantasies involving other guys (albeit nothing major) but, like jja2 said, I don't feel feel any attraction to other guys in real life.

I am very much of the same feeling I think, in that; I read the stories or watch some of the videos & feel like I could be interested in some guy on guy action or mmf action etc..., but when it comes down to the crunch time, would I actually be able to go through with it? More than likely, not.

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(Repost from another thread)


Can the device itself turn a straight man bi or gay? Everyone knows the answer to that. No.

What if we rephrase the question. Can time spent Anerosing turn a straight man bi or gay? The answer here for many I think is a qualified yes.



The hours spent in true relaxation and sexual meditation with anal pleasure can tilt a straight man bisexual, but in the same exact way that most straight women experience bisexuality.

Women spend their whole lives surrounded by images of sexualized women, and there is much less stigma in same-sex play among them. Because of this, most straight women who desire relationships with men are comfortable at least with the notion that - given the right circumstances - they could play with and enjoy other women sexually.




Men, on the other hand, are taught by culture that a single sexual act performed with another man must make them at least a little gay. That makes it so that there is intense pressure in the mind of the common man to avoid ever thinking about a sexual act with a man, lest their whole identity be at risk.


When one begins to take time out from such thinking, often with age and often with the help of some Aneros sessions, then that taboo is weakened and a man may allow himself to start considering that parts of the male anatomy are arousing. Curiosity about new types of sex acts is natural in all humans.


That's how it often happens, I think. None of what I said here is universal. I am putting forward a theory of sexuality for men that is essentially parallel to that of women when the influence of culture is weakened.




It does not account for a million other things that can happen. Some gay and bisexual men who thought they were straight may, through Aneros practice, suddenly realize they could love men and desire a relationhship with one. Some truly straight men will continue to have not a bisexual thought even in the midst of Anerosing.


   
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I'm a shameless pussylicker, and recently I felt the curiousity to suck a dick. I attribute this to watching a lot of porn. At some point you start appreciating veiny dicks. It will be a while before I hunt some dude down because I live in a prudish country.

No interest in anal sex at all - since investigating Aneros I know anus is super fragile and easy to perforate, making transmitting AIDS etc perhaps even easier than with vaginal sex.


   
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I am a hetrosexual and use the aneros. Haven't had a super o or dry o yet so I may not be qualified to answer this question. My guess is Gregor maybe right on in his answer. He reposted that time spent anerosing may be able to turn some straight man bi or gay. I could see that for some men after having these incredibly strong dry o's or super o's it may open up their horizons once they discover that anal penatration feels great. It may subconsciously unlock those feelings, especially if these orgasms are as good as people on these message board are saying.


   
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I think being introduced to the pleasure of a prostate orgasm(s) definitely changes your perspective, as in you might be more sympathetic to or understand why a person may enjoy gay sex, but I don't believe it makes you turn bi or gay unless you already had those tendencies. I for one am glad to have experienced this and glad to no longer be homophobic or scared to try something new. I feel sorry for guys that let that homophobic ego cheat them out of one of life greatest pleasures.

I wish I had discovered this 30 years ago !

I have many gay friends and I don't look at them any differently than my straight friends.

I have also read that unless a top really knows what they are doing, a bottom does not always experience a prostate orgasm. Maybe some of our bi or gay friends here can elaborate on that for us 🙂

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I am a hetrosexual and use the aneros. Haven't had a super o or dry o yet so I may not be qualified to answer this question. My guess is Gregor maybe right on in his answer. He reposted that time spent anerosing may be able to turn some straight man bi or gay. I could see that for some men after having these incredibly strong dry o's or super o's it may open up their horizons once they discover that anal penatration feels great. It may subconsciously unlock those feelings, especially if these orgasms are as good as people on these message board are saying.

I wanted to clarify my point. It is not the penetration that has anything do with it. That is purely mechanical, and those sensations could be delivered through pegging with a woman.

The opened horizons are purely from the mental aspect of Super-O ing. Allowing oneself to fantasize about anything and everything while in a prolonged aroused state is the key. If you really allow yourself to float freely and not judge your own thoughts, chances are that you will think some new incredible things.


   
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This has generated some interesting discussion for sure. The thoughts on central mores and cultural norms have been brought to the forefront. So here is something I am sure will blow the minds of many here when I make my statement that I am a Christian conservative man who uses Aneros. I am very much heterosexual. And I also accept by nature I am a Dom. Again I am sure many are looking with shock at such a post and are confused. But here I believe we are a nonjudgmental people. Your perceptions may have difficulty understanding what I am and what that means. I can say I asked the question of bi and homosexuality and am certain that I know what and who I am. With time will I become one of the other?
No.......
And not because of some fear of judgment or whatever it's just I am who I am. This tool cannot change your sexual preference but it can open up channels of undiscovered pleasure and so be it. I could never subject myself to pegging or a recieving role. Not without inadvertently taking over and subjugating my partner. It's who I am. I've watched all manners of porn and in this society of plenty away from basic needs we can ask the great philos questions of who am I. I have answered after years of pondering and question and come up with the above. The question asked at the beginning of the thread is a matter of nature vs. nurture and I stand by my answer of nature. And am unapologetic.


   
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This has generated some interesting discussion for sure. The thoughts on central mores and cultural norms have been brought to the forefront. So here is something I am sure will blow the minds of many here when I make my statement that I am a Christian conservative man who uses Aneros. I am very much heterosexual. And I also accept by nature I am a Dom. Again I am sure many are looking with shock at such a post and are confused. But here I believe we are a nonjudgmental people. Your perceptions may have difficulty understanding what I am and what that means. I can say I asked the question of bi and homosexuality and am certain that I know what and who I am. With time will I become one of the other?
No.......
And not because of some fear of judgment or whatever it's just I am who I am. This tool cannot change your sexual preference but it can open up channels of undiscovered pleasure and so be it. I could never subject myself to pegging or a recieving role. Not without inadvertently taking over and subjugating my partner. It's who I am. I've watched all manners of porn and in this society of plenty away from basic needs we can ask the great philos questions of who am I. I have answered after years of pondering and question and come up with the above. The question asked at the beginning of the thread is a matter of nature vs. nurture and I stand by my answer of nature. And am unapologetic.

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I remember reading this post and was, perhaps, very slightly surprised at the time but have since seen many posts by religious people and, possibly, some conservatives. An alarming number in fact. It almost seems like MOST people on this site are religious. To be honest, I don't see how you (or they) can square the fact that the bible specifically forbids sodomy with the fact that you use an Aneros. On what grounds do Christians pick and choose what they like from the bible and conveniently ignore what they find distasteful? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're enjoying the Aneros and I don't, in general, have any problem with religious people, conservatives, etc. I can rub shoulders and get along with just about anyone and, despite being a leftist atheist, count some VERY conservative and religious people among my best friends (as an aside, leftists and liberals often annoy me. I find they can be uncritical, ungenerous to their political opposition, and I fully agree with the concept of the "regressive left.")

Differences of this kind should not affect our empathy and compassion for others as much as they do. As long the discussion remains civil, I always appreciate hearing different viewpoints (if only to refine my own arguments). Otherwise, how can I be so sure I believe what I say I believe if it is never challenged?


   
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"Aneros changed your preferences?"

No. Was straight. Still am. Enjoy it more than ever.

This is only a piece of plastic, how could it change such thing?


   
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@JudgeAaronSatie, sodomy is generally defined as a male using another male as he would normally have sex with a female; in other words, male-on-male anal penetration, or gay sex. Aneros use is self-pleasuring, or masturbation. The Bible has no taboos on masturbation, or the tools you use to masturbate with; it only has restrictions on who you have sex with. So we Christians don't pick and choose what to believe and follow; THAT is against Scripture.


   
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why do conservative christians always get the bad rap. YES I am an extremely conservative christian. But I'm not a bible thumper. A true christian realizes judgement is only for GOD. We as human beings dont or shouldnt judge anyone. Thats my philosophy anyways. I could care less what people do in their private homes whether its gay sex, dog sex or who knows what, its not my concern. As long as you arent harming someone else who gives a hoot? As for the aneros changing your preferences that is just laughable. I mean seriously, if someone can believe a peice of plastic has changed their preferences I dont even know what to say lol.


   
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I think some of us are reading too much into the question.

I think maybe the original question was intended to ask, if after experiencing anal penetration and prostate massage / pleasure from using the Aneros, does that make a guy curious about male penetration? Just an observation.


   
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as all know, in my case the answer is obvious. before the aneros i never once thought about being penetrated. now it is a standard, and very intense, component of my sessions.

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I'll reply to the two responses I had to my religious comment here, but if anyone wants to continue the discussion after that I would be happy to do so either privately or in another thread. I'm sorry to J_87 for massacring his thread with off-topic discussions. I thought he asked a very good question and although there were no, so to speak, "conversions," it seems that a lot of people have at least contemplated their sexuality. It's not the "piece of plastic" itself that causes this kind of self-"revelation" (alright, no more religious puns), but the state of mind that accompanies a session.

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You might be right about sodomy. I couldn't find anything in the bible that specifically forbids anal masturbation, just prohibitions on gay sex. That does NOT make the bible any more endearing to me. There is NO problem with a man having sex with another man, nor a woman having sex with another woman. Homosexuality is not evil and homosexual sex is more than just a form of sex, it is a form of love. Now, I'm sure we can IMAGINE what the authors of the bible would have thought about anal masturbation, but I wouldn't want to put words into their mouths so I'll grant you that anal masturbation is not forbidden. Masturbation, however, does seem to be forbidden by some christians, which would, in potentia, make anal masturbation forbidden as well. As to the picking and choosing, it seems you have no choice but to pick and choose given that the four canonical gospels are mutually contradictory. Not to mention the wicked and sinister statements made in the bible that we can be very happy Christians are happy to ignore.

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You ask why conservative christians always get a bad rap. They routinely try to force pseudoscience into the classroom, attempt to criminalize stem cell research that would help millions of people, make gay marriage illegal, teach their children to not worry about global warming or extinction because they should take "no thought for the morrow" and God will take care of it, and criminalize abortion (in some cases, even when the mothers life is in danger). So if you want to know why they get a bad rap, THAT's why. Of course I realize that not all Christians are alike and may have a wide range of views but I need not point out the "no true Scotsman" fallacy you made. We also can't help but judge people. First impressions matter precisely because, either subconsciously or consciously or both, we immediately form judgements of other people. Only rational thought and a respect for our fellow mammals can cure us (or at least, treat us) of our prejudices towards others who may act or think differently.

Now, I completely agree that whatever someone does privately is no business of mine (that includes whatever may be considered a "victimless crime"). I could not care less if someone is a Muslim, a Mormon, a scientologist, a worshipper of Zeus, etc, as long as they don't force it on me, try to teach it in schools, or break the law. Many Christians I know seem to think that being a Christian simply means being a good person and they don't really follow the bible at all. Again, fair enough. I don't care, I just don't think it's necessary. If I sound angry about this it's only because our species has come so far, accomplished so much, and I am genuinely concerned about our future because a large portion of the population holds bronze age beliefs and are willing to believe things without evidence.

I should say that I really didn't mean for this discussion to head in this direction. These forums are extremely useful and people here are very friendly and helpful. Enjoyment of the Aneros is something we can all share and feel good about. Nevertheless, I've touched on some sensitive issues so if you want to respond to me, correct me on any mistakes or misrepresentations I made, subject me to verbal abuse, etc., feel free to do so (at your own peril). Please make it in a different thread or a private message if you do. One final comment. I can respect you without respecting your beliefs.


   
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Wow talk about a sweeping brush statement 🙂 . Well I can see you have perceptions of beliefs in particular some people's shared beliefs. Notably painted based on some fringe elements. I like to recall we individuals allege to love our freedom. Tht being said we worship and we live as we see fit? Of course. So for the banning of gay marriage. I would say I believe in banning the state marriage license altogether. That's what created that mess in the first place. If same gender couples wish to "marry" which often implies a spiritual premise then let them get married. But if there are faiths that have been established and by precedent don't agree with such union those faiths should not be forced to recognize it. That would be a first amendment principle. As an atheist as you avow then you don't believe in contracting a partner to any higher power so it becomes a moot point for you and need not offend. If you live together with someone then it is for you just the same. As for any faith or world view I suppose one can narrow down philosophies into at least 4 primary categories origin, meaning, morality, an destiny. All other categories should be consistent with the premise of the first and coherent with reality. That is logical. To a Christian faith issue, as it is the first one to be attacked does Aneros constitute sodomy? No it doesn't anymore than using a medical enema device or anything else. There is no spiritual contract with these pieces of plastic nor union of purpose in meaning of life or destiny. It is just as it is. A tool. That in itself is not wicked but the mind of the person in a theistic viewpoint that can make something wicked. A gun isn't wicked but the thought a of taking someone's life would be. I don't fantasize during my sessions I just ebb and flow with the sensation. As far as i knew this tool is marketed for medical benefits as well as enjoyment, right?
The answer to this post here is this can this change your preference? No. But what you think about and what you see can change your curiosities and eventually your desires. If you know who you are and wanna be then mind the desires of the heart your need to be focused there. Don't mess with temptation if you don't want the end result.


   
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And you mentioned several other hot button items which I love dear to my heart but let's just go on the premise that all these items and convictions on them must stem from a world view. It is good if everyone knows themselves enough to answer the primary issues in origin (where do i come from) meaning (what is the purpose of my existence) morality ( is there a good or evil) and destiny ( is there anything after this life). That the answers be consistent with the observance of reality and they are coherent with one another. And that they can be measured through at least one of many ways , empirically, experientially, logically to name a few.
At least from such introspection and dialogue we can come to SHOW respect for each others beliefs even if we disagree.


   
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