Hi newbie first post here. Sorry for my limited English first.
About 8 sessions with my maximus, nothing happen with any "aggressive" or "let it go" methods. Even didn't feel the anerso inside me except the p-tab touch my perineum quite hard.
I guess maybe the maximus didn't big enough to hit my spot. So ordered the progasm ice give it a try last night. Not much different but actually feel the progasm head pressed on my rectum somewhere when contract, however I'm quite sure not the prostate.
I noted that, when insert the progasm I feel some strange sense like numb+rheumatic pain+want to piss. At the insert position just pass the progasm's head (about 5cm deep). The progasm really hit my spot just use it's head inserted!
I don't know this is the feeling of prostate or not. So I insert my middle finger in, try to feel there's a swell? None, but actually feel that numb feeling around the 2/3 of my middle finger deep. If full finger inserted, the spot passed. So I think maybe I have a very shallow prostate position (I'm 175 high).
Then I google the prostate anatomy position. Most say around 7-8cm. But all aneros models are around or over 10cm.
Here is a real body sample anatomy pic. Show the prostate is really quite close to the anus (I'm not sure there's some kind of tissue shrinkage of this sample or not).
I'm wondering how the long aneros can hit the prostate on the right place. Any comment?
Keep in mind that the aneros is not fully inserted.
Keep in mind that the aneros is not fully inserted.
Sorry I doubt that....
When the p-tab touch/press on perineum. Does it means fully inserted?
Swollen thoughts inside your head will result in swollen tissue inside your bum. When you first insert device, bear in mind that in order to maximize effect one has to be somewhat aroused or is indeed edging along that path. And in conjunction with contractions one should recognize the shifts, over a period of time the contractions will increase and due to trained stamina of the muscles involved the magical kissing will manifest before your very dreamlike state and gift you, wrapped in exquisite sustained orgasmic beauty. Multiple times.
The image is somewhat useful, but I'd recommend drawing your own in your mind, your spirit, in every fiber of your sexual being and simply allow yourself to breath an (be) there is nothing more relaxing than simply being.
Vic is such a master of words and I could never give anything close to his description other that to say he is so right on with his term of the magical kissing. It will happen but it won't be tomorrow. For me it was well over a year before my first magical kiss. It is all about how you relax your body and how you relax your mind.
I understand most part of the O generated in mind. However there still have part on the physical. This thread is aim on physical, tool length and nerve position. Mind set may amplify a nerve path and also the state but not the position.
I'm wondering mind and spirit and feels still a magic if I use a chopstick b4 rewired.
Inserting said chopstick into delicate tissue will accomplish a couple of things. One being lacerations, tears along the rectal wall and a lot of highly unpleasant physical sensations that should find your mind and spirit searching the hospital grounds for an escape route. There are no magic buttons in the ER, unless of course you're referring to the Nurse Call button in the toilet cubicle. By all means, if you'd like to further research this physical question, I'd strongly recommend you take it up with a gastroenterologist who'd have a wide scope of answers for you.
In your question above you asked: how long you thought an Aneros device could hit the prostate on the 'right place.' And once again, I leave you with my initial reply and will add that we are all different and each device (model) etc, will effect and respond differently to our own personal physical apparatus. I wish you well on your journey.
Make things simple.
From wiki: The Prostate gland is located near the bottom of the bladder and near the anterior
wall of the rectum approximately 2-3 inches inside the anus.
Aneros length: 4 inches or up.
Welcome the related disscussion. No beautiful pretentious words.
@hk_guy, You are too impatient. For some people, may be you, it takes a long time for the prostate to respond. It was six months daily use before I had any prostate response. You worry after 8 times --- it took me 180 times with Aneros! Get domething smaller such as a Progasm Junior, stop worrying and be patient!
The best way to really know where your prostate is, and what it feels like, is to squat on your feet and finger your ass so you can feel it easily. This position is easier than on your knees bent over and reaching around your backside. If you are on your feet and squat down close to the floor you can access yourself from the front or side, and the position makes it a lot easier. Reach in and feel the bump, maybe the size of a walnut or smaller. When you find this, push against it (this is similar to the way you work the G spot in a woman, not the same thing of course but the touching and massaging is similar) and you will feel a certain sensation. It might feel like it's in your cock, or balls, or swirling around inside your groin, whatever it is, you will feel something. If you push against it over and over, you will feel more than something small! Once you have familiarized yourself with your own anatomy, not to mention you just got really personal with yourself and should have an easier time playing with toys in your ass after you just stuck your own finger inside yourself, grab your aneros and stick it in and move it in and out or around or whatever you need to do to find your prostate through your toy. Once you have figured out where your prostate is by using a toy on yourself, assume the position, relax, and let your anal sphincters do their natural job. When the aneros contacts your prostate you'll know the feeling because you practiced, and then you should feel more comfortable because the mystery of the location is gone and you can focus on the pleasure and sensations!
I agree, every man is built differently. I have prostate orgasms with short and long toys, and they make me feel different and my orgasms are different depending on the toy. Welcome to the fascinating and amazing (and sometimes confusing) world of prostate stimulation! Get familiar with your body and enjoy the ride 🙂
Some empirical input: Now that I am rewired (I rewired on a Progasm in 2009) I can compare the MGX (my first model) and the SGX (the shorter version which I got for completeness' sake) and I can firmly attest that the MGX stimulates me better while I am about 170 cm tall.
You say that all models are over 10 centimeters long. What does "length" mean? I don't think that's a useful concept. I suppose you assume the pointiy end of the Aneros models is the "business end" but my view is that the Aneros works by cradling the prostate between two bumps or humps. The location of these bumps relative to the anchor point at the anus therefore is the only meaningful attribute.
Most models follow this pattern:
A: anus anchor
B: lower hump
C: upper hump
We measure
Progasm: AB 4,5 cm AC 9 cm, the valley at 7 cm
Progasm Jr. AB 4,5 cm AC 8,5, the valley at 6,5 cm
SGX: AB 4 cm AC 7,5 cm, the valley at 5,5 cm
MGX: AB 4,5 cm AC 8 cm, the valley at 6 cm
Maximus: AB 4 cm AC 8 cm, valley at 6 cm
Helix: doesn't follow this pattern, distance from anus anchor to flat surface head: 6 cm
PS-New: doesn't follow this pattern, valley at 6,5 cm and distance from anus anchor to middle of "scoop" 7,5 cm
Eupho: doesn't follow this pattern, valley at 6,5 cm and bulbous part of tip at 7,5 cm
So it seems to me Aneros did their homework, with the interesting parts of their models being situated around the 6 cm mark. Interesting how much half a centimeter makes in the case of the SGX.
May I humbly suggest you lighten up a little and approach the process with the assumption that it will take a couple of years before you get "surprised" ? Enjoy non-masturbatory eroticism for its own sake with Aneros involved without expecting it "to do anything".
You might be interested in the Hypnaerosession CD, it helped me get into the right mindset.
Cheers...
Thank you for your kindly advice.
But sorry to let you guys misunderstand. I'm not asking an advice. Because I believe there're no "method" to rewire. All the methods I saw in this forum are just someone did the O on that path, then think that this is a Method. That's why so many different and opposite nature of methods there.
I think rewire is something like I add water into a narrow-neck bottle which buried underground. I don't know how big of this bottle, I just see it's exposed open which I can pour water in it. One day when I see the water level rise up means it's full. I don't know when. Even my body(the bottle) don't know. When it ready, things happen.
I made this post is totally just for curiosity on the tools and body physical this kind of mechanic stuffs. The tool (maybe a jar) to pour water in the bottle easy and efficient.
I'm very new on this path, just on the research and testing state so everything curious.
I'm not asking advice said:
"my prostate position very low and the aneros very long but I want a O on tomorrow. How? Please Help!!"
No I'm not. Sorry to let you guys misunderstand.
I just want to have a discussion with some guys who have the same curiosity as me: A 10+cm aneros is it too long to stim a 6-7cm area? Even through all we understand rewire is not a hit and done nature processes.
I'm quite sure aneros this kind of great success product must have a well-shaped design specially for prostate massage. I want to know why it's length designed deeper then the average prostate position. I also thinking about the moving distance added in it. But after research the movement (autoF) are just millimeter count.
Short answer: most models (not Eupho/Helix) stimulate the prostate from above and below by cupping it between their bumps.
Thank you so much Pareidolia you gave me an exact description!!
Yes I misunstood the "business end" is the C: upper hump.Because I think that the massage job should be done by a Peak instead of a Valley. I have this thought is because this picture show me the upper hump do the job. :-S
But I feel my rectum sweet spot by finger(still not sure is it my prostate) told me it's around the lower hump, or the valley. Not the upper hump this deep as the picture show.
The OP anatomy pic seems more accurate to match my case.
This video cap may help to support your aneros measurement ref:
Everyone is different and built differently. The Aneros Progasm is just at the limit for me in terms of comfort. I really can't do much but lay down with it in but I understand because with it halfway in it feels really really good. Anything else and it is pushing my comfort boundary too far. Maybe try a completely different toy with a shorter stem because shorter toys work better for me.
@Pareidolia, that information regarding the 'humps' and 'valley' is new for me and very helpful. It makes good sense. Thanks.
Everyone is different and built differently. The Aneros Progasm is just at the limit for me in terms of comfort. I really can't do much but lay down with it in but I understand because with it halfway in it feels really really good. Anything else and it is pushing my comfort boundary too far. Maybe try a completely different toy with a shorter stem because shorter toys work better for me.
Yes me too I'm looking for a butt plug, or wand which can adjust the insert deep/position. For an alternaltive beyond the aerous session.
The idea of humps and valley is not really clear in the diagram I would good to see a diagram using a Progasm Ice rather than a valley-less Helix.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it might a somewhat intentional design choice that the Aneros doesn't directly target the prostate; it's typical that guys potentially ejaculate or make a mess in general when having the prostate directly massaged, going by topics across the net and personal experience.
In any case, I use to be in the same scenario as you. I couldn't feel the prostate at all, and wondered what it was suppose to feel like.
Nowadays that's changed through continuous experimenting and just enjoying whatever comes. Maybe my muscles, prostate included, have just developed enough that I can feel them. When ether I pre-lube my finger and rub where the prostate is, I feel an orgasm quickly build and after enough time, I ooze that milky fluid.
The idea of humps and valley is not really clear in the diagram I would good to see a diagram using a Progasm Ice rather than a valley-less Helix.
Here is it.
The Progasm top hump will deeply hit the bladder, the vallery will sit around the prostate level.
(I made this diagram base on the original diagram's Helix size proportion)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it might a somewhat intentional design choice that the Aneros doesn't directly target the prostate; it's typical that guys potentially ejaculate or make a mess in general when having the prostate directly massaged, going by topics across the net and personal experience.
In any case, I use to be in the same scenario as you. I couldn't feel the prostate at all, and wondered what it was suppose to feel like.
Nowadays that's changed through continuous experimenting and just enjoying whatever comes. Maybe my muscles, prostate included, have just developed enough that I can feel them. When ether I pre-lube my finger and rub where the prostate is, I feel an orgasm quickly build and after enough time, I ooze that milky fluid.
I'm thinking about. Newbie should use a more aggressive way to discover our unused hole FIRST.
At least locate, feels, familar our anus, rectum, prostate, pc and sphincter muscle.....etc before the rewire session, instead of just have a long wait and see.
That's why I read lots of case an aerous user if he had anal play experience will get a quick or immediate success! Because they made friend will the hole already!
If we don't know everything inside our hole, how can we actually feel and catch those unfamiliar sense?
By our spirit? By our soul or get in a spiritual state by meditation?
Yes I think it all can do the job well. As I said before, rewiring is a mind game more then physical. But maybe I won't play my mind to much in this beginner state. It's too soon I think.
Aggressive ways such as milking (get familar with the sense and joy of prostate), touch penis (figure out the relative between penis, pc, bc, sphincter and rectum contraction), vibrator, E-stim......
All this DON'T DO IT may be bad for rewire, but I believe they are all good for PREPARE the rewire.
I saw so many user stick in the beginning state months and years. Just insert the aerous and let things go and happen. It's really not necessary to look at these methods as a RULE.
Try more, test more, get familar will my physical body parts FIRST, find my way then step on my own rewire session.
Comment and advice is just information, not rule. Even IT IS A RULE. I will try it before blindly believe them.
Good diagram. In theory the prostate should expand back into the void between the head and the hump. Tissues are not in a fixed place so would naturally fill the space. This would indicate that the P-Ice would embrace the prostate.
Good diagram. In theory the prostate should expand back into the void between the head and the hump. Tissues are not in a fixed place so would naturally fill the space. This would indicate that the P-Ice would embrace the prostate.
Yes right.
But the original diagram may not in a correct anatomy human proportion. Just for reference only.