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Put together a list of common things holding guys back from the Super-O (Hands Free Orgasm):

http://handsfreeorgasm.net/5-reasons-havent-reached-hands-free-orgasm-yet/


   
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@The_Bishop, this is a very good article. During my long Aneros journey of around five years, it took me about three years to experience my first Super-O. It seemed like a mild one. But in August/September 2016, I stumbled upon a Kegel/Aless technique that caused me to reach a tipping point of Aneros and Aless usage that made Super-O's come to me easily, even effortlessly. Plus I began to work with my Aless in even more wonderful ways. For me, it is unmitigated pleasure now!

From the very beginning of my Aneros journey, I took Aneros suggestions to heart. I had to learn patience and just let Aneros pleasure come to me of its own accord.


   
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@BigGlansDC please explain this Kegel/Aless technique in great detail!


   
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Hi @Marco_Polo, here is my Kegel/Aless technique in great detail. I hope it is helpful you. Also @GGringo, a few months ago composed a similar Kegel/Aless technique adapted for use on long road trips. I think @GGringo's Kegel/Aless technique is also good or even better, so I am reposting it here:

https://community.aneros.com/community/for...lly-with-aless (mine, i.d. BigGlansDC's)

https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/kegel-workouts (GGringo's)


   
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Thank you 🙂


   
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Put together a list of common things holding guys back from the Super-O (Hands Free Orgasm):

http://handsfreeorgasm.net/5-reasons-havent-reached-hands-free-orgasm-yet/

Bishop: the site you link seems to have some real good info and I thank you for that. They sure seem to want you to download the guide - the download link is posted everywhere which make me hesitant to download it. Did you happen to download it?


   
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Bishop: the site you link seems to have some real good info and I thank you for that. They sure seem to want you to download the guide - the download link is posted everywhere which make me hesitant to download it. Did you happen to download it?

He's selling something. This is basically an advertisement.


   
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He's selling something. This is basically an advertisement.

Free Hands Free guide, nothing else.


   
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@The_Bishop, this is a very good article. During my long Aneros journey of around five years, it took me about three years to experience my first Super-O. It seemed like a mild one. But in August/September 2016, I stumbled upon a Kegel/Aless technique that caused me to reach a tipping point of Aneros and Aless usage that made Super-O's come to me easily, even effortlessly. Plus I began to work with my Aless in even more wonderful ways. For me, it is unmitigated pleasure now!

From the very beginning of my Aneros journey, I took Aneros suggestions to heart. I had to learn patience and just let Aneros pleasure come to me of its own accord.

Thank you for your kind words @BigGlansDC ! 🙂


   
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Bishop: the site you link seems to have some real good info and I thank you for that. They sure seem to want you to download the guide - the download link is posted everywhere which make me hesitant to download it. Did you happen to download it?

I created the HFO guide and the site, thank you @thhn !
If there is an subject you would like to read (or watch (video) in the future please let me know!


   
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Intersting article. Apologies to @The_Bishop if my post is a bit too critical...

Hmm. To get the guide, you have to enter your email address?
I'm too lazy to do that with my real address. That's a big barrier.

I also see 3 problems with the article:

1) It's easy to interpret the article as "you are doing things wrong, it's all your fault, you suck at this, you are a failure" which puts the reader into a negative frame of mind especially if the practitioner is struggling and thus needs the info from the article, even though I acknowledge that this is not the intent of the article or the author.

2) The information is "bland" (**) and well known. It might help the newbies that are starting out, but for us that have been trying for years, it doesn't add anything that we didn't already know about. ** = bland, like how people say "dont worry, you will find someone to love and be loved by them", and while this is often said with the intent to reassure you and take away your pain, it doesn't tell you how to actually do it, and doesn't help you achieve that goal.

3) Shouldn't this sort of information be blended back into the Aneros Wiki? A wiki is a set of resource pages that we can refer to, and to point new users to. A blog post (as linked) is not easily referrable, and feels like it has a transient nature.


   
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Intersting article. Apologies to @The_Bishop if my post is a bit too critical...

Hmm. To get the guide, you have to enter your email address?
I'm too lazy to do that with my real address. That's a big barrier.

I also see 3 problems with the article:

1) It's easy to interpret the article as "you are doing things wrong, it's all your fault, you suck at this, you are a failure" which puts the reader into a negative frame of mind especially if the practitioner is struggling and thus needs the info from the article, even though I acknowledge that this is not the intent of the article or the author.

2) The information is "bland" (**) and well known. It might help the newbies that are starting out, but for us that have been trying for years, it doesn't add anything that we didn't already know about. ** = bland, like how people say "dont worry, you will find someone to love and be loved by them", and while this is often said with the intent to reassure you and take away your pain, it doesn't tell you how to actually do it, and doesn't help you achieve that goal.

3) Shouldn't this sort of information be blended back into the Aneros Wiki? A wiki is a set of resource pages that we can refer to, and to point new users to. A blog post (as linked) is not easily referrable, and feels like it has a transient nature.

Thank you for your feedback @lonewolf8 !!

1) Perhaps, but I put "Yet" at the end of the title. There is hope!
2) Surely bland for experienced users, but this is more for beginners.
3) I don't think the blog post has any info that is not better stated in the WIKI.
This blog post is an entry point for beginners.


   
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@The_Bishop

There is always hope 🙂

By #2 I meant that some of us have been struggling for a long time, hence experienced, but have not actually experienced these types of orgasms. Seeing that sort of content in a post can just create frustration, it's akin to someone yelling to you "just keep your eye on the ball and hit it with your bat" when you are already doing that without success. However I think a beginner would be concentrating on getting the basics right and the basic tuning into the sensations rather than worrying about not reaching an orgasm yet?

Regarding #3, have you considered adding links to the wiki within your article? It might help some, that don't know about the wiki, to expand their knowledge.


   
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@The_Bishop

There is always hope 🙂

By #2 I meant that some of us have been struggling for a long time, hence experienced, but have not actually experienced these types of orgasms. Seeing that sort of content in a post can just create frustration, it's akin to someone yelling to you "just keep your eye on the ball and hit it with your bat" when you are already doing that without success. However I think a beginner would be concentrating on getting the basics right and the basic tuning into the sensations rather than worrying about not reaching an orgasm yet?

Regarding #3, have you considered adding links to the wiki within your article? It might help some, that don't know about the wiki, to expand their knowledge.

I am writing a short article on the Super-O that I will surely link to WIKI. 🙂


   
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Just a small note.
I agree with lonewolf8 in the "achievableness" of super-os, sometimes the "you will get it, soon, eventually, in 50 years" thing.

I have been using aneros for 6 years now or so, and I've yet to have a super-o.
I've had nice moments with aneros, and although super rare I've had dry os, but not anything out of this world.
I've only kept using aneros just because of hope someday I'll have something really amazing, because even the dry-os are so difficult to achieve for me.

Sometimes I feel like the feedback I have from other people is kinda like moving goalposts.
"Oh you didn't have a super-o, are you sure, maybe you did" or "Accept the journey, don't seek the finish line" are both common comments.

Well honestly they're both incredibly frustrating and don't help at all, at least in my case.
The first one if I it's correct then it means I am using aneros for nothing, because what I get from aneros is nothing special.
It takes hours for me to turn a session into something productive, where productive means some nice feelings.
Only once every 5 months or so I have real good dry orgasms, not mindblowing, just ok ones.
All that effort to experience that? The truth is a regular masturbation has so much better payoff, not just in orgasm intensity, but also in frustrationless compared to "wait for nothing".
Even if it's a different kind of pleasure a dry orgasm has to be satisfying, and in fact only those dry os I have rarely are satisfying, and I feel like it was worth it.

I hear both that super-os are "the most amazing thing you'll feel" and "when you have one you'll know", but I also hear that they're "not the spectacular thing you're imagining, they're just a different, not better, kind of orgasm".
Well which one is it? You can't have the best thing you'll ever feel, something you know is different, while at the same time you don't know you're having it and is just a different, not more impressive, look on orgasm.

The "just enjoy the journey" thing is also problematic for me.
My journey is pretty barren, so I should enjoy the minimal pleasure and extremely rare dry-o I have and make it my goal?
Well this in theory works, but year after year of not improving you start to thing, with reason, why are you wasting to much time on this.
Don't get me wrong, it's a nice sensation that is different, but if I'm not experiencing those great dy-os it is very lacklustre when compared to ejaculatory orgasms, in both pleasure, satisfaction and frustration.

So why do I keep using aneros?
Well because I hope someday I'll either get dry-os more frequently and eventually I'll have super-os.
Because I trust in people when they say it's worth it.
Of course as time passes I get more frustrated as it doesn't seem to be working well for me.

BTW I use the do nothing method because I want to be "surprised" and it helps me relax much more, in all this time I've tried different things but I prefer the pure do nothing.

I feel other non-aneros stuff is interfering with my sessions: both my super low sexual desire (which I simply cannot improve) and the fact that many times I get hfwos, that pretty much ruins a session (something I can't control either, and my be related to my premature ejaculation).


   
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@RSilva Question... what causes your super low sexual desire? Is it too much masturbatation and too much porn?


   
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I have also noticed (but can't quote) this duality in advice that @RSilva mentions.
It can be quite difficult to deal with and frustrating at times, and induces distrust in any article that promises to provide a quick fix or advice on Aneros use / HFWO / prostate orgasms.

In my replies I've tried to avoid talking too negative about my own personal experiences. I just think that these articles, as written as they are, seem to be ineffective. I think we need a deeper understanding on what is going wrong for those that have not yet achieved these orgasms and a more effective way to induce these orgasms in the readers.

@The_Bishop The discussion on nipple stim in Tip # 2 and erotic breathing in Tip #5 might be the best bits for people to look at (assuming that they already know not to touch their penis). However they are not guarantees to HFWO.

I think the crucial aspect to all this is that we need: immense patience, vast open-mindedness and gigantic proportions of positive-thinking; and above all, the acceptance that we are trying to achieve the possibly-unachievable but that we continue to train in the hopes that at some point before we leave this Earth, we may be able to achieve this sort of orgasm. I don't think any of those can be achieved through articles or blog posts alone.

And I think maybe all the articles and blog posts and other Anerosian's journals are just going to be a distraction or not personally relevant (as a means to learn how to do it).... they can still be useful as a means to keep a diary or to seek advice on specific points. The wiki can point to specific techniques which might help, or to address questions or concerns, but we are all individually alone on this endeavour, yet collectively a band of brothers on the same road heading towards the same goal.


   
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@RSilva Question... what causes your super low sexual desire? Is it too much masturbatation and too much porn?

I don't know, it's none of those because I rarely masturbate (once every 1-2 weeks) and I rarely watch porn too (also once every 1-2 weeks too).
Last year in a blood check I had way too low testosterone, but further checks said I was in normal levels.


   
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@RSilva Maybe a diet / exercise thing? Take some omega oil tablets? Dont ejaculate for 30 days?
Other than that, it's beyond my understanding. Hope you get it sorted out though.


   
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@RSilva Maybe a diet / exercise thing? Take some omega oil tablets? Dont ejaculate for 30 days?
Other than that, it's beyond my understanding. Hope you get it sorted out though.

I've been without ejaculating for 30 days or more. My sexual desire also depends. it's not always the same level.
I'm overweight and I plan to have a diet, but earlier this year I was in a gym (3x a week) and no difference in sexual desire.
I am very frustrated by my premature ejaculation, and it impacts my mood greatly, but like I said it varies from time to time so it's not only that.

I also have the impression (can only be impression) that my orgasms in general are weaker than other people have.
Maybe the same is happening with dry os and I should be feeling more pleasure from them.

I have no idea, and doctors don't seem to be interested in this.


   
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I've been without ejaculating for 30 days or more. My sexual desire also depends. it's not always the same level.
I'm overweight and I plan to have a diet, but earlier this year I was in a gym (3x a week) and no difference in sexual desire.
I am very frustrated by my premature ejaculation, and it impacts my mood greatly, but like I said it varies from time to time so it's not only that.

I also have the impression (can only be impression) that my orgasms in general are weaker than other people have.
Maybe the same is happening with dry os and I should be feeling more pleasure from them.

I have no idea, and doctors don't seem to be interested in this.

Weight does affect libido:
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/sex-and-weight


   
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I believe lonewolf8 is right about the all the info. I was reading everything I could on how to achieve a Super-O and getting nowhere. I used every technique, method, and listened to everything I could, but nothing.

Then I gave it all up and found I was so stressed on having a Super-O that I don't think I could. This all came in a realization one night I fell asleep with the Vibe in place. The Super-O woke me up that I had. It showed me that my body already knew what to do. I just needed to listen and relax, which is one of the hardest things in this world to do these days. The hypnoaneros session works well to get me closer and sometimes it leads to a medium-o now after multiple dry-os.

I also found out my experiences were totally different from all others. You can't compare things you read with what you might have and experience. For me, I can have a full body shaking orgasm from thought and words alone aless without ever contracting the PC muscles once because it isn't coming from the prostate but the mind in this case. This is when I knew that nothing I had read or listened to was going to explain my special journey to me.

I did find that for me, a carb heavy diet kills my drives and my abilities to come close to a Super-O, but that is just me too.

What works for one isn't going to necessarily work for all of us. Each of us is unique and our journey will be.


   
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I believe lonewolf8 is right about the all the info. I was reading everything I could on how to achieve a Super-O and getting nowhere. I used every technique, method, and listened to everything I could, but nothing.

Then I gave it all up and found I was so stressed on having a Super-O that I don't think I could. This all came in a realization one night I fell asleep with the Vibe in place. The Super-O woke me up that I had. It showed me that my body already knew what to do. I just needed to listen and relax, which is one of the hardest things in this world to do these days. The hypnoaneros session works well to get me closer and sometimes it leads to a medium-o now after multiple dry-os.

I also found out my experiences were totally different from all others. You can't compare things you read with what you might have and experience. For me, I can have a full body shaking orgasm from thought and words alone aless without ever contracting the PC muscles once because it isn't coming from the prostate but the mind in this case. This is when I knew that nothing I had read or listened to was going to explain my special journey to me.

I did find that for me, a carb heavy diet kills my drives and my abilities to come close to a Super-O, but that is just me too.

What works for one isn't going to necessarily work for all of us. Each of us is unique and our journey will be.

Well apparently my body doesn't know what to do, cuz I fell asleep a few times with my aneros in and it never did anything.


   
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