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09/02/2024 7:28 am
Hi everyone! Ok first off right up front: I am NOT condoning drug use in any way, shape, or form. Please be careful out there, safety first!!
With that said, if you are bold and brave, use drugs particularly psychedelics or hallucinogens, and also empathogens like mdma, and you have not tried 2cb, you are MISSING OUT on some of the most insane euphoric orgasmic experiences ever imagined.
2cb used to be sold in head and sex shops and was called Nexus or Venus, shit like that. Little 5mg pill as a sex enhancer, libido enhancer. FDA cut all that out and scheduled it a few decades ago. Alexander Shulgin synthesized it its a phenylethylamine if I got that right, look it up on psychowiki for more info, or erowid.org.
Reading about it, it fascinated me as basically a synthetic mescaline with no neuro damage known to occur from use, it doesn't tax your serotonin, and it has only slight dopamine agonist properties. The first two things listed come from mdma use, and you can't do mdma too much or it fucks your brain up, and also, the mdma stops working if you take it too often. I only do mdma 4 times a year and get the most out of it when I do. But doing anal/prostate sessions on mdma is like a gift from the universe, nothing feels better than that, and weeks later when you're sober, you bring that mdma experience into your sober sessions and I swear every time I take mdma and stim my prostate, something from that roll carries over into all future sessions. Like I learn my body, or nerves become more aware, no idea what it is, but it just "is".
2cb is like taking mushrooms: you can do it every day, but after too much use it gets weak and you need a break of a few weeks. If you do it two days in a row you need a tiny bit more on day two. What's great is there's no come down like on mdma (I don't have come downs because I dose pretty low and stay healthy and hydrated).
2cb increases physical euphoria and sexual stimulation, once it starts, takes over your whole existence in that moment. Every touch is amplified, every sexual stimulation is enhanced to 1,000. When my wife and I kiss while we're on it its like our bodies are in our mouths; when she gives me head its like she's sucking my whole body into her. Orgasms are expanded greatly, they last a lot longer than normal; semen output increases, strength of orgasmic pulsations intensify, if you are a cum shooter you will be a cum cannon on this stuff!! Females get very wet, wetter than normal. Her orgasms come faster and last longer, too.
Okay some of the specs out of the way. On to the dosing:
LOW!! Low dose. 5-10mg is all you need. Depends on how sensitive you are to drugs and especially psychedelics. I ingest 10-16mg now. It fucks with your stomach pretty bad so have ginger candies or fresh ginger tea if you can; eat something very light and wait an hour or so before you dose and by light I mean eggs and fruit, stuff like that. You can feel it between 5-10mg, but its minimal and just things are enhanced nicely. You won't get those "OMG my orgasm just redefined my existence!!!" kind of O on lower doses, but maybe you will, you just have to try it out. It takes almost an hour for the come up to hit and peak is like 60-90 minutes after ingestion. Trip lasts like 4-5 hours and tapers off really smoothly.
Or, you can boof it, which is preferable. Boof half of your oral dose. I boof about 8mg now. Its fucking perfect. You feel it in a minute or two, peak is under 30 minutes, you are flying between 30-60 minutes, it lasts about 3 hours solid. Tapers quicker boofed than ingested.
When it starts to hit, I lay down and I make sure all my toys and everything I want to do in my session is laid out already. If not the feelings take over and you can't get your stuff. If its a bit stronger than expected you might not even play with the toys laid out next to you! Happens every time for me.
Some examples of how it works on me:
I stand naked and start to touch my body when I feel it coursing through me, and after 4 seconds I have a massive orgasm, just touching my chest or legs.
I have prostate orgasms that are almost crippling in strength if I even just THINK about what they feel like. No toys needed.
Nipple touches of any kind create instant orgasms in my pelvis.
It is very easy to get hard, almost like it makes you get hard, so you get that extra fun and when you touch your cock, holy fuck it feels like nothing you've felt before.
Precum leaks like a faucet it is almost nonstop.
When any Aneros toy is inserted, it is almost uncontollably jackhammering my anus and prostate. Hands free Os come on in seconds or less. The movements I find are not as fast or constant/quick, they are slower and more spaced out and each autocontraction feels like a mini orgasm, and each one distinctly leads/builds/adds up to what I know in my soul will be "a massive orgasm beyond my control" I liken this to how a woman cums from PIV sex, where each thrust inward of the penis brings her one step closer to the top of the staircase and the landing at the top is ultimate orgasm. My wife cums like this, like she knows 20 thrusts will get her to the very top for climax and each builds up to that ultimate end climax. That is how a lot of my Aneros-driven orgasms behave when I'm on 2cb. All I can do at that point is grab the top corners of the oversized pillow I have propping myself up slightly, moan and make a sound with each thrust of the toy, and it builds with each thrust until it cascades into an ultra Super O, these aren't "Super Os" they are "Ultra Os" whatever is bigger than a Super O, that's what these Os are and I've never ever experienced a hands free prostate O like this sober, on weed, on mdma, on mushrooms, on anything. It is a life-changing or reality-affirming kind of orgasm for sure.
TENS pads are insane and out of this world. Two 2cb trips ago I hooked up four pads, two currents crossing from left inner thigh to lower right hipbone and right inner thigh to lower left hipbone so they make an X with my genitals and prostate at the center of the X. No toy in me, I had started feeling the drug's effects like 15 minutes before the TENS pads went on me, and I had uncontrollable Os for about 10 minutes before I could even remember to insert a toy. When I finally did, OMG it was flooring and just a chain of indescribable endless orgasms for like 10 more minutes. G-spot glass wand after that toy and I dildo'd my prostate to a Super O that produced a monster amount of milked fluids, it was an inevitable O to achieve whereas with this wand I only sometimes can make myself have an O from it, hard to make my hand make it happen, easier when my wife is using it on me. So yah, TENS pads are beyond belief on 2cb.
When you go for a Super T, its like the most sure thing in your life. Reality doesn't fade away, it EXISTS only for you to contribute your ultimate orgasmic ejaculation TO IT. Its like the Universe has given you, a human, this gift of ultimate release, and when you cum, you are giving it all back to the Universe. I say the most wild shit out loud as I approach final Super T, its like Ultimate T even bigger than Ultra lol. Your cock feels like, its impossible to use words to describe it especially when its wet, if you're using a fleshlight it is beyond belief, but even your hand, which strangely is preferable for me on 2cb usually the fleshlight is my go to to get me to PONR and then I crank it off with my hand for cumming all over myself, your hand connects you to your cock more intimately and the biofeedback is intense so its preferable for me. Last time I neared PONR I thanked Reality and The Universe for letting me be a man with a cock and prostate and that I get to experience such a wonderful thing in my lifetime, and when my O/ejac started, it just shot over and over all over my chest and torso I shot like 8 times, and then after about 20 seconds of that the O increased and got even stronger, the toy in me (the faithful blue Maximus trident of course!!) just fucked the shit out of me nonstop, and more cum oozed out, and then probably a minute after first spurt it kept going and got even more strong, the glans was allowing me to stim it even more than before, and I kept stroking and O'ing for another 30 seconds. I've had O/ejacs that last like 2 minutes its not outlandish or impossible on 2cb your body is built to cum!!
I can't pick myself up off the floor, I need like 5 minutes at least before I can even take the toy out of me. Its some of the most sexually satisfying and fulfilling experiences I've ever had in my life. I've only done 2cb maybe 7 times now and I learn more about it and myself every time.
Oh do not take things that have L-dopa in them (mucuna pruriens, etc.) and don't take choline or citicoline, it can enhance the 2cb and make it too strong. Also, don't take f-phenibut with it! I did this a few days ago, less f-phenibut than my normal dose which is also pretty low, and my body was cumming so much so nonstop for like 45 straight minutes I thought I blew a fuse and was a bit scared, it was just me on the floor and every cell in my body was exploding with orgasm, trembling and quaking body spasms, my pelvis, not my ass, was cumming endlessly. I managed to get a session in with a few toys and ride a dildo or two but it wasn't easy, and my final orgasm ejaculation was beyond belief and left me in tears. But please don't take f-phenibut with 2cb I don't know why the reaction happened but its not worth repeating!!
I've been debating telling the forum about my times with 2cb since it is a research chemical and intense drug. If you take over 20mg you trip pretty hard, fractals, lights, bending, the whole 9. I haven't done that yet since I like the body high so much from lower amounts! I just don't want anyone to do something illegal or risky, so be careful y'all!!
09/15/2024 2:04 am
Sounds incredible.
I'd love to try this sometime but have had difficulty sourcing in the recent years since I've gotten older. Not hanging around people that sell anymore haha
How do you source your 2cb?
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09/15/2024 4:59 am
Yeah the reason you cannot get this stuff is because its seriously dangerous.
Read up on it.
Nothing is worth risking your health in this way, just don't.
Topic starter
09/15/2024 8:28 am
Yeah the reason you cannot get this stuff is because its seriously dangerous.
Read up on it.
Nothing is worth risking your health in this way, just don't.
Well all controlled substances are dangerous to an extent. I'm not saying it can't hurt someone. But "seriously dangerous" is like saying its fentanyl or heroin or cocaine. Its just a psychedelic. When taken safely, like 5-10mg, its quite harmless. It's not like freaking out on weed edibles, its not like mushrooms, its not speed like coke or meth, its not even harmful to your brain like mdma or mda is. Abuse is abuse and if people want to do more than they need to enjoy themselves, they shouldn't have even tried to begin with.
How do you know its "seriously dangerous" have you taken it before? What is your source for this extreme health risk? I do research for a living and read up on it for like 2 years before I finally could try it. I've done it like 10+ times so far and hours later I can't even tell I took it.
09/15/2024 1:34 pm
I wanted to reply to your message a few days ago.
Firstly to thank you for your contributions in general. I really appreciate your detailed and scientific posts and your exploratory spirit. I'm particularly grateful for your contribution on sulbutiamine and its interactions with phenylpiracetam and F-phenibut.
Sulbutiamine is indeed extremely interesting, including in combination with psychedelics, in moderate doses, such as 60-80 mg.
Prostate explorations with small doses of psychedelics are a marvel that most people cannot imagine. The lack of response to your post has made me feel like I'm in your shoes, thinking many times how I wish with all my heart that other men knew the infinite beauty of these explorations. But there's no doubt that there are still a lot of reservations about these substances, even though academic research is exploding, and the conditioning and misinformation that politicians have been pumping out for decades are still having an effect.
I know 2C-B very well and I'm lucky enough to have it in rigorously pure hydrochloride form (HPLC and melting point). It is in fact a very safe substance, within the limits of proper use of this type of product. Shulgin, who synthesised and discovered it, describes an accidental overdose of 200 mg, 10 times the highest dose. The person suffered no health problems.
@theeagleandwolf It's perfectly legitimate that you don't want to experiment with this kind of substance, but don't give peremptory opinions based on nothing. 2C-B was one of the first phenethylamines to be banned simply because it was so phenomenally successful. On the other hand, an analogue, 2C-T-7, is potentially more dangerous. 2 people died, but they had taken large doses of MDMA at the same time, which certainly caused a serotonin syndrome.
Thank you Techpump, so you're not the only one who's enjoying these magnificent spaces! Find a way to try small doses of 5-MeO-MiPT (3-6 mg), it's prodigious, a little more energetic and transcendent and longer too!
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09/16/2024 6:01 pm
I wanted to reply to your message a few days ago.
Firstly to thank you for your contributions in general. I really appreciate your detailed and scientific posts and your exploratory spirit. I'm particularly grateful for your contribution on sulbutiamine and its interactions with phenylpiracetam and F-phenibut.
Sulbutiamine is indeed extremely interesting, including in combination with psychedelics, in moderate doses, such as 60-80 mg.
Prostate explorations with small doses of psychedelics are a marvel that most people cannot imagine. The lack of response to your post has made me feel like I'm in your shoes, thinking many times how I wish with all my heart that other men knew the infinite beauty of these explorations. But there's no doubt that there are still a lot of reservations about these substances, even though academic research is exploding, and the conditioning and misinformation that politicians have been pumping out for decades are still having an effect.
I know 2C-B very well and I'm lucky enough to have it in rigorously pure hydrochloride form (HPLC and melting point). It is in fact a very safe substance, within the limits of proper use of this type of product. Shulgin, who synthesised and discovered it, describes an accidental overdose of 200 mg, 10 times the highest dose. The person suffered no health problems.
@theeagleandwolf It's perfectly legitimate that you don't want to experiment with this kind of substance, but don't give peremptory opinions based on nothing. 2C-B was one of the first phenethylamines to be banned simply because it was so phenomenally successful. On the other hand, an analogue, 2C-T-7, is potentially more dangerous. 2 people died, but they had taken large doses of MDMA at the same time, which certainly caused a serotonin syndrome.
Thank you Techpump, so you're not the only one who's enjoying these magnificent spaces! Find a way to try small doses of 5-MeO-MiPT (3-6 mg), it's prodigious, a little more energetic and transcendent and longer too!
Thanks man I appreciate it! I don't approach anything in life lightly. I plan plan plan and then do research and plan some more and then wait and think about it, then work on it more, then when I know for sure, I do it.
Sulbutiamine is interesting and I don't take it enough. I literally wrote my dissertation on it, 300 pages in like 4.5 months solid, day and night, into wee hours of 2am sometimes, and then back at it by 10am the next day, nailed that thing. Its good too its important research and people use it. I didn't even know what else sulb did, but I did notice that when I needed a cum break, I'd run upstairs, get hard in seconds, and cum really fast super hard, and then go back to work. Only a few years later did I learn that it actually helps with ED symptoms and increases erection strength, frequency, and psychological factors that affect ED.
what I am still foggy on is that it does work with psychedelics?! I've read that if you take it with mushrooms, it kind of hampers the trip? Maybe it enhances the trips? Please elaborate or write me a PM if you don't mind!! When I take sulbutiamine I take 200-300mg like the normal recommended doses. I don't even take it once a week anymore, no idea why.
Psychedelics and prostate sessions go hand in hand!! MDMA is unbelievable for it. 2cb I don't need to comment on its all here lol! Mushrooms, low doses up to 1g, are stellar. I've done more shrooms for prostate stim and its good for a little bit but then gets too intense and honestly last time I did it I played with my ass for like 1.5 hours and was then trying to have a Super T for another 30 minutes before I finally came, it was like the most work to cum ever but the biggest most relieving cum ever, and I haven't even tried to repeat a session with less shrooms since that bigger session and it was like 8 months ago?! I have yet to try LSD for solo play, I've never taken it but plan to soon, and from what I've heard, it might be the best for sexual exploration with or without a partner.
Yes the thing about these substances is that you don't really have to take much at all for great benefit. In high school all my friends would get a bag of weed and smoke it all immediately until it was gone. I was just in college when they did this, and I could make an 1/8th last like a month. Just little tokes from time to time, that's how I started doing drugs: sparingly and sparse. I never wanted to be out; I'd plan to make sure I had at least a toke or two left by the time I got more. I like to have some in reserves for fun whenever I want! I've never been a "do it to excess" person. That's how addiction and abuse starts. Like at home, I have a full bar, lots of liquor, but I barely have a cocktail a week.
My 2cb is HCL too, so what gives with that? I know its different from the other form, but again I don't know what makes HLC version so good. I heard its easier to insulfate but I don't take anything up my nose ever. I forgot Shulgin's dose was 200mg that is nuts I boofed 10mg only once and it was a bit much to handle, so that's like 20mg oral, so 10x that, no way! Its kind of harmless as you say, I took some this past weekend and after 2 hours I felt pretty good and almost normal, it was a manageable dose light enough to not lose it and strong enough to really feel it, 8mg boof, its solid. Probably my fav substance right now, almost of all time! Just wish mdma was something that was safe to take more often. I'm a 4-5 times a year guy for mdma. Its enough, but man I love it and my wife does too mmmmmmmm
5-MeO-MiPT yes, I've heard wonders, is that Roxy or Foxy? I know it can fuck your stomach up a bit, but yah its supposed to be super duper sex enhancer. Its on the list of things to try for sure, just gotta figure out where to get it. Not easy stuff!
Thanks for writing here, I appreciate it!
09/24/2024 5:54 am
Sorry, I was very busy last week... I wanted to reply in PM, but I don't have the necessary number of messages...
For me, the crucial question when experimenting with psychoactives is integration. I haven't drunk for 12 years (following my first experience with mushrooms!), I don't smoke and I've never used cannabis.
So, like you, my experiments are carefully thought out and prepared. For a few months now, I've been testing Aneros sessions from time to time with small doses of cannabis, because the University is doing a study on controlled distribution. So I have access to very high quality weed, with HPLC analysis of the different cannabinoids in the batch. With an oil extraction, I can dose very precisely. I find it very interesting at around 4-8 mg THC, because sensitivity is heightened, but the markers are there and the sensations can be integrated...
I find the same applies to psychedelics. The limit I could see, if I took doses that were a little too high, would be to be propelled either into mystical dimensions where sex no longer has any meaning and the body no longer exists or, more simply, into an orgasmic state where anything I could put up my arse would give me orgasms. It's obviously pleasant, but it doesn't help with the rewiring...
So I think it's very important to be able to get very good results without any substances and to find new spaces, understandings and integrations with the help of small doses.
5-MeO-MiPT is Moxy. It doesn't hurt your stomach at all (which can be the case with 5-MeO-DIPT, foxy).
My comment about 2C-B HCl was to make it clear that I'm sure of what I'm taking. It seems that 2C-B is mostly found in tablet form, so we don't know its purity or quantity...
I'd be interested to read your work on sulbutiamine!
Topic starter
10/08/2024 5:13 am
Sorry, I was very busy last week... I wanted to reply in PM, but I don't have the necessary number of messages...
For me, the crucial question when experimenting with psychoactives is integration. I haven't drunk for 12 years (following my first experience with mushrooms!), I don't smoke and I've never used cannabis.
So, like you, my experiments are carefully thought out and prepared. For a few months now, I've been testing Aneros sessions from time to time with small doses of cannabis, because the University is doing a study on controlled distribution. So I have access to very high quality weed, with HPLC analysis of the different cannabinoids in the batch. With an oil extraction, I can dose very precisely. I find it very interesting at around 4-8 mg THC, because sensitivity is heightened, but the markers are there and the sensations can be integrated...
I find the same applies to psychedelics. The limit I could see, if I took doses that were a little too high, would be to be propelled either into mystical dimensions where sex no longer has any meaning and the body no longer exists or, more simply, into an orgasmic state where anything I could put up my arse would give me orgasms. It's obviously pleasant, but it doesn't help with the rewiring...
So I think it's very important to be able to get very good results without any substances and to find new spaces, understandings and integrations with the help of small doses.
5-MeO-MiPT is Moxy. It doesn't hurt your stomach at all (which can be the case with 5-MeO-DIPT, foxy).
My comment about 2C-B HCl was to make it clear that I'm sure of what I'm taking. It seems that 2C-B is mostly found in tablet form, so we don't know its purity or quantity...
I'd be interested to read your work on sulbutiamine!
Excellent stuff here!
I always had better sessions with less weed consumption. Now that's smoking originally and almost predominately, but I'd just do one hit, maybe a tiny 0.1g or less little piece of weed about the size of a small or tiny pebble, and that was it, and that was my only smoke of the day. And then I'd do my session and it was amazing. Always got great results. But when I went sober I think my sessions have been 100x better, just more response, more interaction between toy and my ass, more sensitive prostate, more rapid-fire autocontractions and quicker orgasms. I'm also not dried out so more precum and especially more seminal/prostate fluid milking out much much faster, like it used to be 15+ minutes before a drop would come out while high but now its like I get milk in sometimes 3 minutes, and just from Aneros toys not my g-spot glass wand.
Actually, THC under 10mg is supposed to be excellent for sex. There's a new company (can't remember the name) that sells supplements for life and sex, and they only dose their supplement with like 4mg, and its supposed to interact with the body in beneficial ways, not the brain as a way to get high. So yah you know what's going on I think!
What you say, about getting results without substances, that's how to make all this work. I don't need a drop of anything to have a great session and over 30+ dry orgasms in under 30 minutes. But if I take something, I can have like 80-100+ orgasms in a space between 30-60 minutes. And the orgasms and whole play time is more immersive and just all around a fun event, like being on an amusement park ride the whole time.
I've got to find Moxy...it'll happen.
Yes 2cb in pressed pill form is usually always underdosed, or incorrectly dosed (like a pill is labeled 25mg but its probably only got like 15mg in it...) and there are additives and possibly other adulterants. I should've mentioned I always use test kits for everything I take, before I take it, and that's multiple kits to be sure and safe. I have still never taken more than 16mg oral dose of 2cb, or boofed more than 10mg (which was an accident and I tripped a little too much, but had a monster session anyway it was just a little...distracting lol). I have very pure powder, HCL. I just did it 3 times in a week (monday, wednesday, and saturday) and I never had diminished returns or loss of strength of the 2cb, no hppd (if I was going to suffer from hppd I would've already from my mushroom consumption in college over 25 years ago!), and just unbelievable feelings, good stuff all around. I'll wait over 3 weeks before I take it again, maybe a month just to take a break from it.
I need to try sulbutiamine with these substances to find out what they do synergistically. Can you share your thoughts and/or experiences with sulb. and things like mushrooms and 2cb etc.?
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