Hi everyone. I will be grateful if someone could give me some advice. Okay, maybe I will write a small introduction.
I am a 27 year old lady, my husband is 28, he is really great and gives me multiple orgasms any time I fancy. Recently I've been reading a lot about new approaches and techniques to improve our sex life-for Him. You see, while I am having all those amazing O's just through regular sex, he will only have this one traditional (lol) orgasm after which he usually feels knackered. I thought that was perfectly normal-men are like that! Well, turns out that the male sexuality is much richer than I'd thought (as you all surely know;).
When I found out about the prostate massage I wanted to try it on him straight away, but he didn't fancy that, I have quite smallish fingers anyway. We talked about Aneros and somehow the fact that this device is medically acclaimed and with good reviews sounded better to his ears. He's pretty much open-minded so we went for it and so, whilst shopping for some toys I bought him the Aneros Progasm Jr.
He trusted me with the choice because I'd read the whole wiki and a lot of other info on the Net. Why did I choose the Jr? Good reviews and the Kundalini thing, that got me really interested. I myself am a bit into chakras, i.e. I practice some overtone singing to keep them in tune;) It was apparently good for beginners, so it seemed like a perfect choice...
Alas, when my husband tried it out the impression wasn't that great. The insertion was very very hard and painful for him, (he had never had any anal sexperiences before). At no point the device slid inside on its own during the insertion despite using plenty of lube..After that he tried to relax, do some breathing exercises, but the discomfort was dominating, as if he'd scratched his bum inside. He reports that the Progasm Jr didn't move much when he tried squeezing his muscles.. And that's it really..
I know there might be something to it on his part, maybe he should have been more aroused or better educated prior to trying it out, however I am sure that the insertion should not be that painful.
Our conclusion is that the Progasm Jr is just too big in girth for his virgin bum, maybe a bit on the short side too (my husband is 6 ft 2) as he didn't feel it touching his prostate at all ( though I know that this doesn't always happen at the beginning). As the experience was so bad we returned it. Now that I've read some more I think this model was a mistake and the Helix Syn would be a better option for a beginner. We discussed it and decided that the Helix sounds better, but I would like some reassurance before we commit to another buy.
Basically, we're now looking for something easy to insert for a total beginner, a bit thinner than the Progasm Jr, maybe a bit more mobile and suitable for a tall guy. Would the Helix Syn fit these criteria? Or maybe someone would advise me otherwise?
I love my husband and of course I want all the best for him. I'm feeling quite guilty about this unpleasant experience as it was my idea, even though my intentions were good. I will be grateful for your help.
Your husband is a lucky man to have a wife as you so open to new things.
I'm a newer member but also 6'2" so thought I give some input to your questions.
I have had great success with the Helix Classic, got it two months ago. Whatever you get you can not expect great results on the first uses. For most, especially those new to anal play, it can take many sessions to get to the pleasure zone. My first session was not that pleasurable, the 2nd was better, as was the 3rd, etc. There is an awaking of the prostate process that takes time. I had a GF years ago put a vibrator in me and it did not feel good (not bad, just not that pleasurable). I suspect if that was tried on me now after having aneros experience it would be different.
If you were having problems inserting it may be because of not enough lube. Make sure the anus & aneros is lubed well and also try to get him aroused before inserting. There are some good threads here about lubes..
Hi @Anna 87. I second what @acquiescence says. Arousal before insertion is important both for getting the device in and for getting his ride off to a good start. Maybe use your fingers, well lubed and clipped, to probe his anus gently beforehand. The pro jr is not thicker than the average man's sphincter when relaxed this way. Or let him use his own finger to explore and maybe even try to reach his prostate. The helix syn IS probably easier to insert and is recommended for newbies. It's also more flexible and maneuverable. But one does need to be relaxed in the anus to insert anything. 🙂
What does your husband want out of this experience? He should probably read the wikis to get a idea of how to proceed. A lot of this practice is the man's mindset.
Again he's a lucky man to have you.
IMO your husband just wasnt relaxed enough or didnt take enough time for insertion. If he is new to anal play it does take time and patience. The insertion should never be painful. Next time you try insertion, take a good amount of time, like 20-30 minutes. Help him relax as the process happens. Make sure there is plenty of lube used inside and out. Maybe talk dirty to him, if that is your thing, tell him how hot this makes you. Tell him how horny it makes you to see him trying this. These things can help. The helix syn is a good choice also. It is completely normal for him to not feel much if anything the first few sessions.
Hi everyone and thank you for your helpful comments and kind words.
I haven't been always that open to new things though:) I was brought up in a catholic, very prudish, Polish family and sex was never mentioned.:/
My husband and me have been together for 11 years. Of course, at first we'd been extremely horny as teenagers and in our early twenties, but later with our studies, work, two little kids etc things got quite repetitive and our sex life was not on top of our priority list. However, recently I am going through some personal sex-Renaissance, they say that women's libido increases in their late twenties and thirties-maybe that's the case with me.
My husband is more than happy with my increased sex drive and my interest in achieving new depths, maybe even a bit surprised. I have to admit that I am more fascinated by Aneros than he is, probably. I would like him to have multiple orgasms, yeah, at some point. I just want him to experience what I can experience every night with him.
Thank you for your input @acquiescence, it's good to hear that you're having success with the Helix, I was wondering about the 'guy's height and Aneros length' relationship and the Progasm Jr is a bit shorter. I'm glad to hear that it suits you as you're also 6'2, that was the info I was looking for-thank you for sharing this.
Hi, @euphemistic. You've asked a good question-what does he want from this? Well. He pretty much doubts that his body is able to produce these super O's, at least at first. What we wanted was to maybe at first see how it feels and incorporate it it to BJ's and regular sex. The long health benefits also interest him, he's a very reasonable man and facts, research etc speak to him. I know he would love,and probably will love, these P sensations when they happen, he keeps his hopes low to avoid disappointment, Lastly, we have some toys for my bum, so it is only fair that he should have something nice too.:) Nice-and not an instrument of torture lol:)
You might be right @ineverknew, maybe he inserted it too quickly, maybe some more lube will help. I've always wanted to explore his bum and it really makes me feel hot even thinking about it, with or without Aneros so yeah I'm definitely in a mood to talk a bit dirty although I'm not the best at that lol:) . Thank you for confirming that it should never be painful..
I think we will go for the Helix or Helix Syn (might be softer) and try together first and then I will give him some space for self-exploration.
Thank you again for your help:))
Anna
Hi Anna87
I've been reading your post and had a thought. Is it possible that your husband would be more comfortable trying the helix syn by himself at first? For someone who isn't used to having anything up there it might be easier for him to work away at it at his own pace. For some people (even at a subconscious level) it takes a while to come to the realization that it's ok for the anus to be an entrance as well as an exit. He (and his body) may just need that time to discover this. It's just a thought.
My wife was very supportive when I brought up the subject of the aneros, and she was all for my getting one. Even at that, it took a while before I was comfortable using it when she was in the house, let alone with her in the same room.
I bet once he gets past that first hurdle, he'll be fine. It won't take long for him to find out how much fun it will be. Even in intimate times with you he'll find out how great it is. Not just him either! I swear my wife loves my helix almost as much as I do! Having it in there amplifies everything she does to me by 10, and she loves it.
Just give it time. It'll be great!
Your husband is indeed very fortunate to have you! He will make quick progress with your knowlege, understanding and support.
You can't go wrong with the Helix Syn or Helix Classic model. He should not have much problem with insertion. You are also correct when saying he will need space for self-exploration. He may not feel anything at first (I didn't), but once he figures out what to look for and what feelings to follow, he should be able to incorperate you into sessions. Although it would have been fun, I don't think I would have ever reached where I am today if my early sessions were with someone else in the room (Just like @karvec1959 said).
It may also be helpful to get your husband to do some research as well. Not only for the educational aspect, but also to peek his own interest. Hopefully he gets as excited as you are and then it will transfer into an incredible experience!
Good Luck, have fun, it will be awesome!
@anna87...may I offer the suggestion that you purchase the Peridise beginner set for $19.95. They are super easy to insert and can help a beginner learn how to recognize the pleasures of anal play. Although they are technically not a prostate massage device, they can deliver highly pleasurable sensations and set the stage to progressing to a Helix after he becomes more familial with anal play.
I got the Pro Jr. for my husband. Unfortunately, he's too penis-centered and impatient. I, on the other hand, love the Pro Jr.
Hi again, @karvec1959, I think you might be right that it would help if my husband had some time alone to explore things and feel more relaxed with the whole idea. It is quite an intimate thing to do, especially for a man, I think, and without prior experience.
And all the wonderful things we talked about ,maybe he felt under too big a pressure to feel something, anything instantly. (I like @thugofalltrades' comment about impatience and being penis-centred lol:) Usually when we're at home we're together, but soon I'll be working in the evening a few times a week for a couple of months, so this might be an opportunity.
Re the Peridise mentioned by @Jaxsun, this is the unisex thing, isn't it? The shop I buy from (we live in the UK) sells a 'beginner to advanced' set. I have to say it looks a bit scary on first impression;) Aside of its anal benefits for men I would be interested if the Peridise can be felt by a man during (vaginal) sex while used by a woman? I'm looking for something like this, I was thinking beads, but maybe Peridise would be worth a try. Plus it's unisex so maybe we could both benefit from it.
Thanks for your nice words @G-Force and confirming that the Helixes are the 'can't go wrong' type of Aneros. That's what I wanted to hear and now I'm absolutely sure to purchase the Helix.
Thank you all for your support, you've really helped me with my worries and I feel positive now that with all the info you've mentioned the second attempt will be much nicer. I'll be checking the forum from time to time, you've all been very kind and helpful x
@anna87...indeed Peridise is unisex. I have had sex with my partner while it was inserted in her...she enjoyed the combined vaginal/anal stimulation. However, when she orgasmed her body pushed the Peridise out. I could not feel the presence of the device in her with my penis though.
Peridise is perfect. Minimalist and elegant. I got it because way back when I was interested in deeper orgasms but very intimidated even by the shape of the basic MGX and helix models. Anyway, it was just as comfortable as it looked and led me down a path to greater sensuality and a much improved sex life.
So if size is at all an issue, I'd go with those. And beginner set, nothing. Forget that: you guys should get the full 4-piece set and both experiment. Further agree though that maybe your husband should have a couple of alone sessions before you join him with this kind of toy.
I personally think that you need to help activate that part of his body for pleasure first. If a progasm jr (with lots of lube!) is uncomfortable then chances are a helix would be too. Help him see it as an area of pleasure first. Perineum massage will reach the prostate & you can always tickle the back doors in whatever way you see fit!
You might find in a couple of weeks you get asked where the aneros is!
Anna87, you wonderful woman. Agree with comments here regarding some getting-to-know-you time. There could be an element of 'stage fright' when using it with a partner initially. I have a P jr and love it. It hurt me the first time I used it but it's just practice. Once he gets the hang of inserting it correctly it will do its thing.
@Anna87 Lube, Lube and more Lube ! It should never be painful. Might I suggest coconut oil.
Hey @Anna87 ,
Have read your posts and questions, and the answers, and thought I`d give my 2 cents.
Firstly, though, I just want to say that your husband sure is a lucky man 🙂 The envy is glowing here, haha.
I do suggest he starts alone, give him 30 minutes in the bedroom before you join him, or whenever he has inserted the Pro Jr.. And about lube; I use (the size of a pea) Vaseline and then some waterbased lube after that, it`s very slippery. A little on the index finger and smear some on the butthole and inside. Other than that, I smear a thin layer of Shea butter on the Aneros before insertion. Keeps the moist/lube the entire session and through the night if used over night.
An other choice is a little lump of sheabutter and coconut-oil witch is pushed up the anal,
and then a little coating of sheabutter on the aneros..
There is a thread about lube on the forums, I`ll try to find it.
Good luck to you both, and have fun!
Edit: Here they are:
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/16421/lubes-and-oils
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/16350/lube-recipe
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/15734/the-ultimate-aneros-lube-poll#Item_71
It is true that Progasm(Jr or not) might be too big for a beginner. Men are usually happier with bigger toys or tits, so it was a natural assumption. But prostate is the size of a walnut. As long as you're hitting it, you don't need a sledgehammer. It took me a few months to build up kegel muscles and find the positions that work for me. Helix was faster.
I'm about 203 cm tall (6ft 8in). I have a great time with Progasm
Ice(classic) and Helix Classic. I'm not chubby or anything, in fact I
used to weigh 75kg when I was training long distance running. Now I'm a
few kgs below 100kg. I sometimes feel like I'm quite spacious down
there, and that's without former anal experience. And when I bought the
second toy, Progasm, I put it in thinking what the fuss was about.
I think it's unlikely the toy is too short. More likely, he is overshooting it. By trial and error, I've found that two positions work best for me:
- doggy with legs wiiide apart, butt leaning backwards
- on my back with legs apart and on something high, like a chair or my bed.
Position makes a very big difference for me. In many of them I feel like there's very little or no contact.
Other tips:
- enema really improves the experience. I might be a bit paranoid, but I do at least three until there's no dirty stuff on the toy when I pull it out
- Once I insert it, I relax for about 15 minutes
- I apply lube several times. Typically like this: apply lube, put it in, contract muscles several times. This smears the lube inside me. It feels like it comes to a halt, so I take it out and apply lube once again. Repeat the process. I know I'm good when I take the toy out and it doesn't feel dry or hot (friction!).
- because I'm using the classic toys, I'm free to use silicone lube, which is amazing. 'Syn' models are made of silicone so such lube would dissolve the toy! Frankly, I don't understand what the 'syn' hype is about.
- my sessions last at least 1 hour. If I get no pleasure within that time, clearly I'm having a bad day and abort it.
- when the toy is in contact with prostate, it's strange and hard to recognize at first. The tricky part is, it doesn't feel good at first, just strange. It may take a minute or two of hitting the right spot. The feeling you should be looking for is like when you're about to orgasm, but subtle. Part of the "nearing orgasm" feeling is actually the prostate.
- it can take several sessions before it starts feeling interesting. Aneros, and prostate massage, rewires the brain. You may not have those new nerve connections at first. Let them develop. If my sessions are too often, for example every day or every two days, they're not as good.
- when it doubt, experiment ! Change positions, see what works !
Encourage him to persist. After a while, it's a pillow-biting experience. I'm kicking myself for not persisting earlier.