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@inhope, I commonly have weird feelings also in my feet, sometimes pleasureable but usually like something is brushing up against the skin. Keep at it, I think your making more progress then you think.

Try lying face down partially on a couch and some chairs so your pelvic region is suspended for a short span so your penis isn't in contact with anything.

i will try that @ctusser one more thing, when my penis moves, even flexes it causes a vibration which is enough to make me cum sometimes, if im turned on enough. When i've seen videos of people in the past writing around, dick slapping their stomaches and whatever else around them, it makes me wonder how the f*ck they don't shoot everywhere! afterall is how horses masturbated, by slapping their dong against themselves!

@inhope, yes i would try making sure your penis is not touching anything, also when you do get hard try relaxing your whole pelvic region. When we get close to ejaculation there are alot of muscles down there that will tense up, relaxing them may help.

Tried that the other day, used a chair/bed system so nothing was touching, nothing happened really, fruitless. There is only one position that works for me at all you see. However when i was naked, and hovering that part of me over the nothingness below, gravity on my penis produced sensations! so basically my penis rules me, rules my life and will always steal the friggin show

Ok, you can try to multi orgasm another way. I recently discovered if I relax while slowly masterbating in can feel subtle orgasmic contractions in my body even in different muscle groups. Just mentally focus on spreading the pleasure in your penis up your abdomen and throughout your body and don't let yourself get to the point of no return. Relax your body and PC muscle group, stay away from the glans at first. At first this was hardly noticeable, but now that I've been practicing they are getting intense and full body, kind of like a dry super o but a different sensation. Not saying stay away from Aneros, but if you can make progress in a different area it may relieve some of your frustration.

Tried that a fair bit, in the past it would stifle the orgasm and i would cum without any feelings, very strange.

Now though it just results in an orgasm that is more or less the same if it were not to be in at all. One thing i have noticed though, when i have sex (i received oral on two occasions recently) both times without aneros, i experienced the best orgasms I've ever had on both occasions! not sure why but i have to say that they were longer and more intense than usual.

UPDATE No. 129638 (lol)

Well yesterday i tried again, this time though with the Helix (been using the SGX loads as the helix sort felt uncomfortable at times)

Lying on my side i got lovely warm feelings and hints of something, i would also get occasional shooting feelings that were over as quick as they started but they felt like 'shards' of an orgasm, not just a normal one but a reaaaaaally intense one. Really.

These seemed to happen most when the arousal would build, i.e. when i would get an erection, which many of you here state is counter intuitive, which i personally think is BS. I then found a video online of an aneros user using the device that would further agree to this statement.

Here is this video: http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=996qW9Ftw5h

See how his erections are super hard? this is what its like for me, like ive been saying all along. Except minus the movements of the device this guy has and of course any feelings of pleasure. (except for last night)

This guys seems able to take the device in, which seems to go reaaaly far in? weird huh? also when i do this, take it in and hold it the device auto goes in and out, it doesn't 'stay' like his does, this has always bothered me as i find the device is just jumping all around in there and doing nothing.

Toward the end of my session, i noticed something that i had thought i was imagining for many months of aneros use. If i 'sit' on the device, or enter a position that is like sitting, i.e. pushing on the swirly tab so that the device is forced forward pushing toward the penis' direction, it would feel good. Great actually. I could repeat this by moving the device with my hand, moving it forward. SO i was thinking if there was a more aggressively shaped aneros for this job, then i realised i was already using it - the helix (gah!)

During the night i had an intense dream where i had an orgasm, i.e. a wet dream, i experienced the best orgasm I've ever had in my life. But i was asleep so the feelings etc were somewhat numbed.

I guess im making progress of some description. Those that have the SYN's are they worth it? Is the eupho maybe a device i need to get next to see where it goes with that? What about the DeVice, is that worth a try?

Thanks for the video, inhope. I got sympathetic p-waves just watching it. The MGX seems to make me hard too, as well as the progasm but I find if I wait and just enjoy the sensations, and build up my arousals, the movement of the device across my now engorged prostate will result in increasing pleasure, and my erections come and go. The guy in the video was obviously super horny and was probably putting his attention on his penis, I can relate. It was a lovely video.

You say that the aneros moves in you with the involuntaries but without any pleasure sensations? That happens to me when I'm just starting and not yet aroused. I have to feel my nipples which are wired to my prostate at this point and maybe fantasize to get to the pleasure, but I have to relax and notice the pleasure building. Then the device movement is pleasurable.

BTW the MGX works differently for me than the others. I wore it overnight once(and never again) and woke up with a pain in my perineum where the p-tab was locked into it and my body was clenching it so hard that it was difficult to extract! The design of the MGX is different from the other devices in that it looks like a finger to me that is poking and stroking my prostate, and has a narrow neck with ribs that massage my anus. The others are more bulbous at the top and wider at the neck so they conform more to the shape of my anal cavity and more or less fill it, thus messaging everything at once. Anyway that's how I imagine it.

Would love to hear more of your thoughts on the the above post guys. Anyway, against my better judgement probably, I've bout the Eupho standard, will see how things works out. Was close to the DeVice and the Progasm Jr, however the DeVice seems really strange to me, it encourages grinding and moving it that one thing EVERYONE here was dead against doing with any device of any material! and now... you are meant to do it?

Since writing the message above, I've made some further discoveries, Inhope. One thing is that to relax completely means just that, stop moving all muscles. It's harder than I thought and I thought I was doing nothing before but found out that I was making very small movements. The other thing is that when I do move, like doing kegels, to move as slow as possible like in a slow motion film.

The idea is to do whatever it takes to get myself aroused first, then stop dead in a comfortable position and feel the arousal build along with any involuntaries for a long while, then to make very slow movements, whatever my body senses will feel good. I go back and forth like this between being completely still and making mindful motions. I've noticed that there's a small delay between movements in my perineum area and the sensations reaching my awareness so the slower I move, the closer the movement is to the sensation of pleasure, the more I notice and learn, even very subtle feelings. The object is to associate the movement directly to the sensation in my body, and also to slow down everything, a kind of relaxed concentration.

So this is my version of the do nothing approach. Does this make sense? I'm really a beginner like you Inhpe, so what works for me may not work for anyone else.

The most helpful thing for me was to try everything, learn what gives me pleasure, isolate the experience of orgasm from ejaculation in my mind, and use that experience of orgasm as a guide and goal. I think I was trying too hard to feel as much pleasure as I could feel but now think that was a mistake. Jmay turned me on to this isolating the feeling of orgasm as opposed to ejaculation and other kinds of pleasurable sensations.

I find that it's so hard to convey my experiences to other men with words, maybe the best I can do is to describe my understanding of my experience as an analogy that may resonate with someone else's.

An interesting discovery for me last night, perhaps one that really does go against the grain of what users and aneros advise.

I noticed over the years that when i laid on my back or 'sat on the device' where the device was pushed forward i would feel something quite lovely there. When i have been sitting in the past i would sometimes get random mini-type-o's, again this is something pushing forward again.

When i used the helix recently it produced better results, because its aggressively angled forward at the end.

Well last night i decided to move the device (eupho) with my hand (gently) and it produced great feelings, i did sadly cum the normal way but it was done without tensing anything.

Now the issue i have is that there isn't an aneros device that is angled forward more than the helix, and i don't much want to have to do what i did last night again for fear of damage. However, today (a day later) i'm sitting here aneros-less and feeling new feelings in the prostate area, i cant describe them, at least not properly; it feels like fatigue except the waves of tiredness are not waves of tiredness, its just a feeling of pleasure! its 100% positive and its NOT fatigue, but its the closest i can come to describing it. The waves lasted all day up to now so much so that at time i thought i was gonna explode with orgasm, i then decided now might be a good time to use the aneros, so i put one in and the tip of my penis instantly feels hot! i have heard this is reported? the device though did nothing to aid the feelings other than that, after while it seems to have made them stop! The aneros giveth and the aneros taketh away!

Is this a milestone others have gone through? will it get easier to do it via my own internal muscles rather than relying on sitting (possibly dangerously) or using my hand? is my prostate angled more forward than others, or 'deeper' in than others?

I am giving some consideration to the deVice which is an aneros massager that relies on actually sitting on it and grinding etc.

Ive been here before with the random awesome feelings some time after a session. i want to know how to get here manually and not randomly!

i think most of what you said are positives signs. The achy, tired, pleasureable feelings you describe are very normal. The prostate can be very finicky, for sure! Its really hard to say where or what is going on with your prostate, but you continue to show signs of improvement. Have you ever tried milking your prostate and see what that does for you? An aneros device may not be the best tool for that job though.

if you scroll up you can see thats i've had the milking thing, but i don't want to do that, i want the normal aneros experience where feelings are produced during a session. Not after. Im happy im finally making progress, but its hard to recognise the progress it seems.

I need to reiterate that for some reason, it must be related, but when i orgasm traditionally (from sex, not any other way) they are different in the way they feel. i.e.. they feel unbelievable, just amazing. I received oral again from my partner and surprised her with the moan and feeling that resulted from that orgasm, it was the best I've ever had. GOt to be the aneros' influence that?

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Edit: a day after a particularly rubbish session i am sitting here experiencing unbelievable feeling in my prostate, not doing anything to encourage it, just sitting here doing nothing, no aneros in sight. its not orgasmic but its like the climax of one ALL the time, so much so that i can't take much more of this, its been going on for 4+ hours now!

WHY doesn't this happen when in a session, WHY is it always after one?

Also i found this random little video as well, just to add to the frustration of course:

http://www.yourlust.com/videos/a-man-having-multiple-orgasms-with-aneros-in-his-ass.html

and can anyone here say they feel this good and experience this much when they have their sessions?

once again i am sitting here, no aneros, no sexual thoughts, just sitting and working with an achy (not bad achy, good achy) wonderful feeling in my prostate, so far its lasted ALL day. Its lovely but its like someone is teasing the hell out of me, what does this mean?

Am i awakening something here?

My guess is that yes, you're going through the rewiring process. it's a good thing. I suspect you'll start to have these feelings when the aneros in inside too. And then the fun begins. I've noticed how every man experiences the process differently, I don't know why. That's why I call it "what is it?"

fair enough, its a subjective and personal thing. Sounds good. I just worry about damage, as the only thing that works to get feeling is to put lots of pressure, baring down on the device whilst sitting which i know cannot be good for me, but i can't stop either because it feels good! :-S

"baring down on the device whilst sitting which i know cannot be good for me, but i can't stop either because it feels good!" You're right, Inhope. You could cause some damage. And I sympathize with your desire for more pleasure. I was chasing after pleasure too at one point, not with sitting on it though, and I got unbelievably intense p-waves alright but they didn't seem to lead to orgasm. It was like I overdosed on pleasure from moving my body but plateaued at that point and didn't get to any orgasms. Maybe it's part of the learning process which each man goes through in his own way, I don't know. But I gave different approaches suggested on the forum, a chance and also improvised. Eventually I stumbled on some subtle pleasures that felt like little orgasms and then, listening to Brine's new session recording, I recognized another kind of orgasm from his description, the tempo of his session and his vocalizations. So I guess what I'm saying is not to get stuck with one approach. Ask yourself why you need to feel this kind of pleasure so much. I did and was surprised with my answer. It may help you to get a handle on the difference between what your ego wants and what your body wants and needs. It's not always the same thing.

Interesting points @euphemistic strangely enough i have just discovered a new technique, which isn't described anywhere that i can tell and that is to not take the device in but rather to force it out almost. Not push with the muscles as such but doe something that deeper inside and push the opposite way, the device stays in but it feels different somehow.

Im finding it hard to type this to you right now, the waves f pleasure are STILL here, its been 12 hours at least now, cannot take much more of it! at one point it felt like there was electricity running through it, i could feel a humming or a buzz in the prostate! what is this called? what stage/milestone is this? its amazing but its tiring! Ive just ordered a program Jr as well, lets see how things go with that bastard.

If you want it to stop, what if you put the aneros inside you and just leave it there, don't sit on it or try to get pleasure? You say that the sensations go away when the aneros is in. I don't know if that would work. Just going by what you say. Maybe you don't want the pleasure to go away?

I don't want it to go away but there are times and places when having those sensations, having it for 18 hours straight can get in the way, wonderful as they are. The aneros should produce those feelings but they do not in session, when i make time and plan for them to happen, they occur outside of the session, the following day. Its confusing.

once again i am sitting here, no aneros, no sexual thoughts, just sitting and working with an achy (not bad achy, good achy) wonderful feeling in my prostate, so far its lasted ALL day. Its lovely but its like someone is teasing the hell out of me, what does this mean?

Am i awakening something here?

If you get this feeling again and have some free time I suggest you lay down and relax and focus on allowing that feeling to spread throughout your abdomen and body. Sometimes a while after a session my prostate becomes super sensitive and I get those feelings. If I relax and focus on them I can sometimes grow them into mini O's and occasionally super O's.

Several times the sessions without the Aneros have been better than with it.

i genuinely feel that the aneros doesn't work, or at least only works for a handful of people and i mean a really small handful of people too.

I never get any pleasurable feels during a session, never. Nothing in which to build on, nothing it which to get something to accumulate and to build up sensations on, i just get nothing and what i am left with is fatigue and boredom. I have done everything right, inclusive of preparing my mind and my expectations and still, nothing.

The only pleasure i do feel is out of session, days later when no aneros is in sight, i seem to be the only one experiencing this. Even if i got a small reaction in session, just a twitch would be something i can build on, but literally all that is happening lately is i am putting a piece of plastic up my ass and it moving around quite well, quite frantic and builds in intensity, but no feel whatsoever.

Eg last session i had: i got turned on, really turned out mid way through my session and the device was pulsing, moving with the muslces, really intensely and short but deep contractions with the device, but guess what? no pleasure in any measurable quantity, nothing and i mean nothing. Yet the device was there, moving in like it was in the throws of a super o!

@inhope,If this is really how you feel, I wonder why you are spending time making these posts!

I do believe that there is actually some reaction going on in your mind that you are almost unaware exists.

I think you need to step back for a while, continue with the physical practice of Aneros use and just expect nothing for some months.

Use the thing while sleeping if you have to but just stop trying to analyse what's going on.

If you receive some pleasure now and then, give thanks for that. If not, just move on to the next encounter but don't expect rewards.

Just don't give up but accept that, for some of us, it takes time. For me it took four years!

i bother with them because I'm frustrated, angry and jealous. Also what you have suggested I've tried and it doesn't work, even with the most positive of attitudes.

It took four years for you, well done that you got there! Ive been going longer and feel nothing, i will wager you felt something during at least one session in your 4 years of trying, something to build on, yes?

Ive tried the sleeping method on a fair few occasions too, no results there either. I don't expect anything in sessions, havnt for a long time. But after many years i just succumb to boredom, fatigue or fall asleep!

I want my money back aneros.

Tell you what @Pommie: do you mind telling me what your typical sessions are like, what happens and when in happens, what you feel and what your mind is doing, your positions and what you notice the aneros doing and when its doing it?

That sort of stuff ^^ helps me visualise what i should do, the routine i have now, no matter how varied is so mundane i can derive nothing from it as a result. If you want you could PM me it instead of writing it here?

Just got your email Pommie, looking forward to your response

I have had an idea and would love it if people could have a go at this:

Could some/all of you post your guides or rather how you have a typical session? for example you could explain how you lube the device, how or if you contract and if possible in detail how long you contract for or how long it takes for the device to work, what movement you feel, what sensations you feel and what you are doing mentally as well. Also can you guys also state how long it took for you get to this stage of awakening?

This will really help i think as i know each person will be different but it helps to give me ideas on new ways of using the devices and perhaps discovering a new technique that actually moves me along nicely.

Thanks

My prostate is SO VERY ALIVE that I start getting p-waves within about 5-10 minutes of insertion. I've recently modified my insertion process. I lube my hole, and the Aneros, insert briefly, remove and re-lube the Aneros, then reinsert and away I go,,,the extra step of re-lubing gives my eupho some extra movement and I've been getting some outstanding p-waves as a result! Enjoy!