What do I do? also venting a bit.)

I feel like all the advice, all the threads I have read and the ones being posted even now, they are a lot of things to handle at once, juggling it all seems confusing and some of them seem to conflict a bit, it is pretty difficult. Sometimes I wonder if I should just let go of reading the forums, give myself less mindnoise and figure it out myself, but then I read a post where I think, "Ah, I forgot about that" or "Ah, that's a different way to think about it", so I think that when I don't seek out advice I might forget very important things, but when I do it's all so overwhelming. Which approach should I pick?

I had to chuckle after reading your venting thoughts. I have to agree with you that it all does seem quite confusing and at times overwhelming with information to try and integrate. It is frustrating when you try one technique only to read a contradictory report seemingly indicating your approach was wrong. No particular technique is necessarily 'wrong', it just may not be the technique effective for you. I can't say which approach you should pick, really nobody here can determine that but you. We can only suggest approaches which have been successfully employed by ourselves, sometimes these approaches are at odds with each other.

I know this has become a cliché but 'Every man's journey with prostate massage is unique, what works for one man may not work for another, the trick is to find the combination that works for you.' It is an adventure into unknown realms of sensuality. Your fellow travelers can offer insights into their adventures but that is always biased to their experiences, your experience will be different and unique. Hopefully, your adventure will be immensely pleasurable and fun as well, if it isn't, then prostate massage as a path to orgasm may not be for you but the practice itself may be a health benefit nonetheless.
Good Vibes to You !

@Someone One of the benefits of writing in the Forum or Blog is sharing your experience and getting feedback from others. It seems you have identified and possibly solved your problem via your "vent". This could be a textbook example of "mind noise" which prevents a person from becoming aware of the subtle sensations of Aneros use and prostate stimulation. @rumel and others have often recommended various posts regarding relaxation and other techniques to facilitate the rewiring process. There is a treasure trove of information and advice available. Best wishes on your journey.

I've achieved success leading to a super-O. Here is my take. The first thing you have to acknowledge is that a super-o is not a more intense penile orgasm. There will not generally be the throbbing and contractions that accompany an ejaculatory orgasm. Imagine a great normal orgasm. Now, imagine how it feels after the throbbing stops and you're in a somewhat blissful state. If you've ever had a partner continue to stimulate your erogenous zones during this state, you know that you can feel intense euphoria. For some they might get light headed, they might laugh, cry, or have this intense butterfly feeling in the stomach that grows. These are the feelings that accompany a prostate orgasm / super-o. If you insert the massager, do a few contractions, relax and focus only on the feeling of the pleasure it causes (just think about the pleasure and thank your body for it), eventually you will get to a point of experiencing the pleasure I mentioned above. It might be preceded by or accompanied by or followed by any number of muscle contractions, spasms, etc, but they are usually short lived. The auto-fucking is accomplished by just holding a contraction at varying intensities after reaching this feel good heightened state of arousal. Thats really it. Sometimes these prostate o's (big surges of pleasure) are enough to make you begin moaning out loud and thrusting your hips to relieve the "tension". For me they make me smile ear to ear and the tension of sexual energy makes me roll my eyes in the back of my head. But truthfully, none of it is "overpowering". At any moment if I decide I'm done, or stop thinking about it, it pretty much ceases immediately. You might get some residual pleasure waves, but you'll realise you are the one creating the pleasure, not the massager (for the most part). Hope this helps!

The reason there is so much contradicting advice floating around this forum is because we are all so different. I am not part of any traditional masturbation forums, but I watch enough porn to know that there are many many ways to stroke the penis. And as a heterosexual man, I am flabbergasted by the variations in how women get pleasure. For example, some women like having their gspot rubbed, others prefer getting fucked deep. Some like having their clit rubbed hard, even sucked and chewed on, others can hardly handle the softest caresses and get off on indirect pressure. Some like it all, some only like one specific thing.

What I’m saying is we are all so different that there is bound to be tons of contradicting info. Instead of trying to compute it all at once, try one new thing a session. Maybe go into depth with one “technique” over 3-4 sessions, then move on to the next. But one thing is sure, mind noise, or distraction, doesn’t help.

@ Someone You also made me chuckle at your "vent". I also can relate as a newbie. Thank you for your post because it mirrors some of my frustrations. But it was also humorous, and I learned something about myself from you. And about the journey from the others responses.

I have lately been trying to just let go of expectations, and to try to stop "building" when something happens good. If I stroke my penis and it feels good, I do more, harder, faster. I am thinking the prostrate is not like that, I have not figured out how to let go and just be, still working on that.

@ divine_oblivion

Maybe go into depth with one “technique” over 3-4 sessions, then move on to the next.

I have been kinda doing this lately, sort of experimenting with different things for a while. Sometimes I just go into a session and try to not worry about anything or any technique. I think we overthink it sometimes as well.

But again, thanks for your post, it was just what I needed right now.

@Someone exactly the same for me. So far it’s been 18 months and a very odd journey. I had some big successes early on, including some nocturnal A-less Super-Os (or at least, non ejaculatory orgasms of such intensity, I can’t conceive them as anything other than the big-O) but it’s almost as if my body was teasing me. Showing me what was possible if I kept going - because these died down and haven’t happened since January.

For a few months now I’ve been completely accepting of the fact that this will take as long as it takes and I can’t force it. All thought of chasing the big-O has now gone and it really is for the better. When I have a session with my Aneros now, it’s simply a case of insert, relax and just let my body do what feels good until I’m ready to stop. Where the fun really is cranking up the gears is A-less. It just gets better all the time and that started when I turned my attention elsewhere.

I decided it would be healthy to try to break down some of my traditional masturbation habits and practises. I spent some time just observing how my body responds to penile stimulation and what I’m unconsciously doing to push myself to traditional orgasms. I then started refining and changing things up. After a few weeks, I’d become aware of so many sensations that I’d totally skipped over before. I started relaxing my pelvic floor, keeping my strokes slow, stroking areas I’d always neglected, keeping my breathing relaxed etc. This hugely heightened the pleasure I got from normal wanking. But it’s also seeing the pleasure I get from Aneros and A-less (where I don’t touch my penis at all) advance quickly. It’s also resulted in some changes that feel like they’re signs I’m moving in the right direction. When I see something that would have once given me an instant boner, I now just get a gentle twitching in the prostate region. I realised that when I used to think sexy thoughts, I’d channel all my focus and energy to my penis. It’s been very liberating to just gently focus on handling my sexual energy differently. Now, I breathe, notice what’s going on throughout my body, enjoy the “butterflies” feeling in my abdomen that seems to spread further throughout my body with every week that passes. I don’t have the old urge to ejaculate every day - I actually enjoy revelling in sexual arousal for weeks at a time and find myself thinking “why would I ruin this exquisite pleasure by cumming?”

I suppose what I’m saying is, you know your own body better than anybody here so don’t get hung up on trying what others say. Just explore and find what feels like progress for you.

(My original post didn't go through so I'm trying again)

Someone and Craigio, I also had some early successes that have yet to be repeated, though my super-Os (if they were) were with a vibrating massager from Rocks Off, which I bought way back in January 2015. I bought my first Aneros massager over a year ago and have yet to have the same level of success, but I have made progress. Enjoyable progress! And I like to revisit my sessions from time to time to compare what I was feeling then to what I feel now. If you don't already, you might want to keep a journal and note all the tiny progress you make. This will also help you retain memory of the sensations you are feeling so you can get back there quicker, and it might help you be more aware of your bodies' responses and what your personal hangups are. (for myself the biggest hangups are mind noise and a habit of clenching my PC and anus)

I remember reading somewhere that even searching the forum and scanning every post for a new technique could be an distracting obstacle, so maybe it's better to give that a rest for a while. Craigio, if that's what you mean when you say don't get hung up on trying what others say, then I agree with you. Someone, as far as the advice given in this thread, there's a lot of good stuff there so listen to the wizened sages of our order.

Also Someone: you mention that you've had the Progasm and Eupho Trident, both of which are advertised as being recommended for advanced users. This might be part of your trouble. Take this advice with a grain of salt, because I know I have a tendency to buy something new when I get in a rut with the old one, but... I'd recommend looking at the Helix Syn Trident as it's listed as a beginners' model and incorporates the newest innovations. I won't tell you it's a world-changing difference, but it might help your progress a bit in this stage of your journey.