What am i doing wrong? I really need help or understanding at least.

Your bolded paragraph is effectively what it ended up being for me! hahaOff the top of my head, it sounds like something mentally is stopping you from enjoying sessions as much as you could. From what I remember, 'amazing' sessions were literally just aligning of the stars. They were completely random, in spite of how much I tried to understand why.

If I remember correctly, an odd and important turning point was figuring out how to relax my abdomen. Before then, it'd act like a sponge that absorbs any sort of good sensations from building further. This is why some of my better moments, before this realisation, was from using my diaphragm. (So moaning, talking, murmuring etc.) Going by that idea, it's possible that when you're getting excited by any sort of pleasure-building, you are tensing the abdomen without realising it.

What do you think it should feel like?

@darkengine so you're saying you identify with my paragraph in the sense that it was something that got better or more intense rather than anything else?

Ok so recently had some more breakthroughs with greater heights of pleasure. Body shivering but not spazzing and kicking all over the bed. But probably on my way. I just recently posted on moving energy in the body. My theory is that the Aneros and its sensation builds up a lot of energy in the lower area much like a glass being filled. When it gets full it gets stagnant. That is when the sensation dies. So I tried moving my energy from the p spot through the spine up to the head around it three times and down to the abdomen to my cock. With continued abdominal breathing and focusing my sensations from like I stated my p spot sensations skyrocketed. Couldn't hurt to try just follow mantak chias multiorgasmic man techniques on sensory awareness to spread out your energy and see what you get. Took about a good half hour to hour to get it really going. I was so relaxed and feeling so good through it all and I think it is repeatable

I've had some amazing experiences with MMO but my path does not seem to be the same as anyone else's. One day I have a mind blowing orgasm the next nothing and then after days of nothing, when I least expect it, another complete out of this world orgasmic experience, but the more I chase what I've had before the less it happens.

I also get the sudden shutdown just when it's starting to get good but I can usually trace that down to my own doubts that I'm really having an orgasm, and other mental chatter.

I've felt a little bit jealous of those who post about how they have now mastered aneros and can orgasm at will even when out shopping, or the guy who can orgasm anywhere in his body at will, but we're all different and now it doesn't bother me.

I'm very much in the 'this is a spiritual thing' camp, and also think it's a lot to do with how open you are to energy flows at any given time. All a bit esoteric but there's also a lot of, as yet undiscovered, science behind it, and things we don't yet understand about how the nervous system works. One thing I do know is that tiredness, anger, depression, and all the other negative emotions can impact greatly on my experience, and it just works best when I'm relaxed, well rested, and feeling good. Mental attitude is THE biggest predictor of success way beyond relaxation, technique or anything else.

Perhaps try approaching it a bit differently as @yankeecowboy suggests. Drop the expectations (I think that is your stumbling block), enjoy what you have, try something different like the Mantak Chia approach, and maybe something might surprise you.

Sorry for repeating myself but I think it's worth doing. I really recommend reading & practising the ideas in the free ebook - New Energy Ways (just google it). I agree with Smudgefish that this is spiritual & this ebook shows you how to easily stimulate your energy body anywhere you want. It has definitely made a major difference to me!

deep breathing practices are also really good to do before a session, they can stabilize your mind and body and let things happen that should and prevent things from happening that should not

@Sorena_

All of what you described is perfectly normal (based on experience) and also extremely logical (based on the laws of nature)... Anyway, the very fact you experience it, proves it's real. So don't fight it.

Instead of fighting reality, you should try and fight your reaction to it... basically by not reacting to it at all. Yeah, I know, easier said than done. But among the following points, some must be within your reach:

- not masturbating
- not analyzing what happens
- not rationalizing what happens
- not comparing what happens with what happened previously
- not comparing what happens to you and what happened to others
- not watching videos of what supposedly happens to others (be it porn or anything else)
- not start a session but let it start
- not try and maintain the sensations happening
- not using strength
- not increasing strength
- not expecting sensations to get better
- if a sensation diminishes, letting it fade away
- if a sensation amplifies, not rejoicing or clenching too much, let it wash over you like you didn't care
- neither hasting a tingle nor repressing a tingle, the excruciatingly slow build up is what happens, let it happen at its natural pace

In short, do not react physically, mentally or emotionally. Just be a shapeless and peaceful love of life.

I know it is not an easy path. I know it is slow and not rewarding at first. I know you had stronger sensations before. But the other path is limited and leads to frustration. This one is the opposite.

Real change can only be slow. A good session starts very slow and non-intense to the point of indifference. A great session comes after a few days of slow and natural build-up. Breakthroughs happen when the time is right. Step-backs or dry-spells happen when they are needed. You have power in ruining what is needed, not in changing it. There is much stronger power in accompanying what is happening whithin your mind, body and heart. It might not feel like "your" power, it might not feel like your will had its say. But true power it is. Power from deeper within. Power from your being as a whole. Power from around as well. Natural power at the right time. Good power.

Be happy when things are mellow or even do stop, for your being is acting wise. Take time to sip life, its teachings and its energy. You sure wouldn't like an indigestion. Real enjoyment is only in small touches. You wouldn't believe how high this might get you when accepting what happens becomes a second nature and pleasures, however little, start piling up instead of vanishing one after another.

Frustration is a stance that comes from frustration and leads to frustration. Happy indifference and appreciation of the tiniest sensation, good or bad, is the path that ends up forgetting frustration ever existed and hence concentrates on the zillion more interesting things in life.

I think where the frustration lies in this process:

- set the scene
- lube, etc

This above process takes ages it feels like, then:

- good feelings upon instertion
- lots of relaxation, and letting go
- feelings stop with 5 mins
- or perhaps i get very drowsy and nearly fall asleep out of eeling nothing and being relaxed

Clean up, which also takes ages.

So the frustration can come from having a short (5-20 mins) session then having to 'abadnon it' early.Ive done days where i have multiple sessions like these and to be honest, ive had decent results from doing so, but not always. I almost always have aless feelings after device removal and session ending after an hour or so.

Just to add this to the mix: i dont feel a 'tingle' or a 'buzz', i feel a 'warmth' sure its relevant.... but there we are.

@darkengine so you're saying you identify with my paragraph in the sense that it was something that got better or more intense rather than anything else?

More or less, yes. I've had roughly the same experiences of having a chain of sessions that suddenly go dud.
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/14081/do-p-waves-plateau-for-you#Item_1 4">Or…pleasure-waves hitting a plateau. It could be better but doesn't quite get there. https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/14068/what039s-this-involuntary-#Item_ 6">Even the slightest new development was curious to me, because progress could feel so slow.

@darkengine so you're saying you identify with my paragraph in the sense that it was something that got better or more intense rather than anything else?

More or less, yes. I've had roughly the same experiences of having a chain of sessions that suddenly go dud.
https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/14081/do-p-waves-plateau-for-you#Item_1 4">Or…pleasure-waves hitting a plateau. It could be better but doesn't quite get there. https://community.aneros.com/forum/discussion/14068/what039s-this-involuntary-#Item_ 6">Even the slightest new development was curious to me, because progress could feel so slow.

Will read those now. The problem is that no session isa dud for me, it just 'stops' all of a sudden. its only a dud when i choose to focus on my penis when the session becomes unresponsive that I am left feeling super aroused with 'nowhere to go', so to speak.

@Canacan I like your post. I often cannot decipher what you write but here you have written a wonderful piece almost like a spiritual teacher, and I agree with everything you have said.

@Sorena I would listen to what he has to say and accept where you are, it sounds to me as if you are expecting the sessions to stop dead because that's what always happens. Forget that and take each session for what it is. Sometimes I suffer from this as well and the only way to solve it is to let go and stop thinking about failure, in fact don't think of anything - be an observer, use a passive fantasy and let it happen to you.

@Sorena I would listen to what he has to say and accept where you are, it sounds to me as if you are expecting the sessions to stop dead because that's what always happens.

This is what i thought too, a sort of 'self fulfilling prophecy' however its become something far more engrained in my subconcious, like muscle memory, seems to happen no matter what i feel, or what i expect in any form (or so it would appear).

My sessions always have an ebb and flow to them...I experience the most intense pleasures in the 1st 30 minutes to an hour or so...then the pleasure subsides but never extinguishes completely...during this period that I accept and enjoy the pleasure the exists for what it is and by doing so allows the stronger feeling to return during the 2nd hour of the session...interestingly tho...the pleasure takes on a more full body sensation with less crescendo but prolonged and very pleasurable none the less...??

My sessions always have an ebb and flow to them...I experience the most intense pleasures in the 1st 30 minutes to an hour or so...

Thats good, but you speak from a place where i canot even fathom, you experience pleasure many, many times longer than ive ever known. My prep and clean up time combined is currently longer than my aneros session! i would like to see you or anyone here for that matter, not be frustrated after many months of that.

Wow a lot of prep work. IMHO way too much work. Ambience? Lube? I just wither go to bed at night or consider it first thing in the morning that I'm gonna play. Lock the door. Lube the tool and push it in. WTH. This isn't a date. This is your time to have fun. (I was gonna say this is fuckin yourself) you don't need lights tv and a music. Just get it going. Maybe you have this idea of sorts to how this should be. But helix isn't gonna kiss you back. It's gonna fuck you. So if your not excited that's alright get started and you'll get there. Look to my thoughts on energy sensation and focus and moving it like dumping a bottle of water. The more you circulate the more you percolate 😉 I've always found my morning session feels better than my night ones. Until a few nights ago. The focus circulation hit me incredibly hard. I was in awe. So cut the warmup bs. I got a wife and 4 kids. No time for a warm bath or enemas. I make sure I'm clean enough and get it in and lay back and try to get 3 hours of play......minimum! Even gone 6 from sleeping and waking in the am and getting it going again. Lubing with albolene. It stays lubed

So tonight I'm gonna lube up my tool in this case the peridise and pushing it in, going downstairs and watching an hour of banshee and then I'm comin back upstairs to lube up my helix and push it in from 1130 to about 230. After that if I don't fall asleep I probably take it out and jerk one out and sleep til 630, at which time having off tomorrow I may just put my washed helix back in lube fresh. See how that goes 🙂 sometimes that's what it takes to have a body shaking good time

@Sorena I would listen to what he has to say and accept where you are, it sounds to me as if you are expecting the sessions to stop dead because that's what always happens.

This is what i thought too, a sort of 'self fulfilling prophecy' however its become something far more engrained in my subconcious, like muscle memory, seems to happen no matter what i feel, or what i expect in any form (or so it would appear).

I've had that same feeling of a self-fulfilling prophecy as well during a chain of "dud" sessions. Maybe you could try a "fake it till you make it" approach. Try to feel as relaxed and aroused as you can and if very little is happening pretend that it feels better than it does. I've done that before and it generated some real sensations I could build upon. I wouldn't normally recommend it (in case it backfires and causes a muscle memory for no sensations) but it's something to think about. I'm sorry to hear you're having so much trouble. Try not to beat yourself up over a bad session. I'm sure we've all done it (I do it a lot) but a positive attitude is so crucial for success.

@Sorena
"Clean up, which also takes ages.". What ever is happening! My clean up would take seconds!

@Canacan's 'what not to do' is great. 'Chose not to respond' - Patanjali Sutra is the ultimate "do nothing".

Yes, your prep and finish up routine sounds like something you hate doing, something that is a complete waste of time. That's like the same as spending a lot of time buying groceries for making a meal but you hate cooking, and while you are upset over the fact that you had to cook, you also believe that the food will suck when it's done and you won't like it when you're eating it.

some men on this forum don't use an enema bulb, but I do. It takes about a minute to get the water temp right and fill it up and lube up my ass, then a couple minutes to expunge the water and whatever else was there that could prevent a good session. I get a bath towel on the floor and a couple washcloths, I have my toys laid out beside me (or in a disposable water bottle I cut the top off of about half way down so I can fill it with hot water and hang my aneros/zini toys in it so they are nice and warm, and a little wet to help with my lube ), and I insert a toy and then it starts. I guess it probably in all earnest takes about 15 minutes. But it's so worth it to me because I put a lot of attention and care into my prep work. I spend extra time making sure the onions are chopped extra fine, if you know what I mean 😉