was it a mini O, dry O or super O or just P waves?

I remember pre-cum just pouring out of my cock while doing erotic dance. ... but I wasn't sure if it was an orgasm at all?

Does it really matter what you call it?

This past weekend I had a session that had some great sensations.... had the sensation of ejaculation yet the sheets were dry. My heart was rapidly beating, but no body uncontrollable body shaking I've read so much about. Was this a super O, mini, dry....p waves only?

Again, does it really matter what you call it?

I love my aneros but wonder how to classify my sensations.

Why not just gently cast your experience into that big ocean of possibilities we generally label as a Super-O (go ahead and re-read the definition). I've experienced so many different sensations during my Super-O's I've simply given up on trying to classify, label or even describe them. There are desciptions provided by others which I have never felt but I intuitively understand they are possibilities for my own future experiences. Despite our attempts to describe to others these feelings being created by our own bodies, we are experiencing sensual phenomena in a biological language which has no words, truly ineffable. I would advise you to just enjoy these experiences without getting too hung up on their descriptions, our egos want to classify, identify, categorize, sort, rate, etc. all of these experiences and to the extent that it does so during an Anerosession is only another obstacle to diminish the experience. Over analyzing these sensations, especially during a session, is not generally helpful...so you might as well "Just Let Go !".
Good Vibes to You !
P.S. Thanks for the acknowledgement/compliment.

Hey @analfixation ,

...and had the sensation of ejaculation yet the sheets were dry. My heart was rapidly beating, but no body uncontrollable body shaking I've read so much about. Was this a super O, mini, dry....p waves only?

It's hard to tell from the distance. You may know the situation when someone asks you to solve their computer problem over the phone: you don't see what they are seeing or doing and they ususally are not able to articulate the problem precisely so you don't understand the problem in the first place. The only thing you manage to get a clear picture of is the frustration and impatience on the other end of the line. 🙂 So I can't give you "the answer", but I'll try.

From what you said it sounds like you are in the midst of re-wiring. That's the most important thing to realize - you are on the right track!

Having the distinct feeling of ejaculation while staying dry is (obviously) a sign of a Dry-O but you did not specify the sensations beside the feeling of ejaculation - which are most important to come to an answer. I would rule out a Super-O, since it's so profound, that you wouldn't care about the name tag. The wiki and @rumel use the term Super-O in a broader sense, that's why a wide spectrum of orgasmic sensations qualify for a Super-O to them (namely everything that steps out of the boundaries of a traditional orgasm). In that sense I prefer the term energy-orgasm and reserve Super-O for the holy grail experience everyone is getting so hyped about.

Your experience could have been anything between p-wave, mini-o or more, since the lines blurr heavily and the transition is seamless. That's why I regard p-waves as some kind of mini-mini-O. Calm seas orgasms seem to be a p-wave that does not crush but flattens out tagging you along in the process (you see where the water analogy comes from?). They absolutely don't feel like a traditional orgasm and I would not have been able to recognize them at the beginning of my journey.

So jeah, no clear answers to be given. 🙁 I totally understand why you want to label things and in contrast to rumel, I don't thing it's a counterproductive thing to do per se. That's where I came from too and I think assigning certain symptoms can greatly help to understand what's happening with ones body.

BUT: don't fixate on the labeling - it's a tool not the goal. I know, these things are easy to say when one is a veteran who already got the big picture and has a lot of experience to draw from and thereby sound a bit paternalistic. When you learned to ride the bicycle, your first goal was not to pull of a wheely.. your job was to train your sense of balance so you wouldn't tip over and be enabled to get more experience. Only after you mastered that, you were able to train further skills.

It's the same here, go with the classics:

• lower your expactations
• listen in to the subtle sensations
• don't try to push things but follow the arousal
• learn to give in and surrender
• don't ponder about labels in session but only after
• do kegels between sessions but not in session (it's a form of pushing, but you want to get pulled)

Cheers, Unfug

@Unfug thanks so much for your response.

Prior to my last session i read your lengthy post on the super O. I went into the session with lower expectations, focus on sensations, surrendering, etc. I also tried out the recipe of natural jelly suggested by @rumel which I think is great. The results brought me back on track, remembering to listen to the sensations and not force the progress and just go with it. i was very please with the results, and as you read had a great experience.

Another confusion point for me is the kegal. From reading extensively I figured kegals were an imperative ingredient to achieve the ultimate goal. Typically I would enter a session just relaxing for about a half hour, then start hard kegals. Short quick bursts, or long hard held kegals, originating from the perineum side of my anus. After more research I thought well maybe I'm doing the kegals wrong? That past session I took a different approach to my kegals, exercising from the spine side of my anus and using a very gentle touch to the rhythms of the tantric music. Upon relaxing, I incorporated reverse kegals. The feelings were so much subtler and enjoyable. Perhaps you can share your wisdom on the do no kegals in session? I have tried the "do nothing" approach and nothing seems to happen other than occasional involuntaries.

I'm confusion on the (it's a form of pushing, but you want to get pulled)

peace to you

Hey @analfixation ,

I also tried out the recipe of natural jelly suggested by @rumel which I think is great.

Indeed, I use this recipe too (in a slight variation).

Another confusion point for me is the kegal. From reading extensively I figured kegals were an imperative ingredient to achieve the ultimate goal.

Not necessarily imperative, but they are so beneficial that it's almost self-sabotage to leave them out.

Typically I would enter a session just relaxing for about a half hour, then start hard kegals. Short quick bursts, or long hard held kegals, originating from the perineum side of my anus. After more research I thought well maybe I'm doing the kegals wrong?

As I said earlier. In session I recommend to reduce active kegel-squeezes to a minimum. The bottleneck is not the button-pushing itself but making your nervous system aware, that a button was pushed in the first place. A general kegel-regime heightens the ability of the pelvic nerves to sense the given input better.

That past session I took a different approach to my kegals, exercising from the spine side of my anus and using a very gentle touch to the rhythms of the tantric music. Upon relaxing, I incorporated reverse kegals. The feelings were so much subtler and enjoyable. Perhaps you can share your wisdom on the do no kegals in session?

This approach is better indeed. What you can do is to apply a single, light squeeze before you exhale and then listen in for the response for 4-8 breaths. Don't count breaths, just wait for the response to ripple through your body. It will not be much at first, but if you keep the pattern it will grow over time. Like a swing which gets a push every now and then at the right moment. If you feel, that the ripples / echoes are through, start over with a deep inhalte - a so called charging breath. This deep inhale builds up some tension, which you release on exhale while giving the slight kegel squeeze. The release manifests in a pleasure wave and with each succession this pleasure wave gets stronger. You will start to feel, when the time is right for a charging breath and the breathing-squeezing-pattern will make itself independent - giving you the feeling of being exposed and played with. This is when the neuronal feedback-loop kicks in and does it's magic. It will lead you to orgasm on autopilot (arousal itself is arousing, leading to more arousal - this escalades quickly).

I have tried the "do nothing" approach and nothing seems to happen other than occasional involuntaries.

Because this is the hard part of the journey: active receiving. Channeling the sensory input and transform it into arousal with mental effort alone.

I'm confusion on the (it's a form of pushing, but you want to get pulled)

By pushing I mean active steps toward orgasm - the male approach so to say. From traditional sex/masturbation you learned that harder and faster strokes will lead you to orgasm - that's pushing. That's not so much true for most women, that's why so many of them struggle to reach orgasm. Pushing doesn't seem to work for them, they have to surrender to it and let it happen to them - that's getting pulled. Hence the cliches of womens need to warm up, get in the mood and don't get distracted in the process. They have to focus and really commit to it, to make it work. With energy-orgasms, that's exactly your problem now too. On the plus side: when you master it, you'll get a totally new understanding how womens arousal work and how to work with it. It's much easier to synchronize.

Cheers, Unfug

Does it really matter what you call it?

It kinda does? Apparently using the damned thing requires a lot of abstract thinking, which some of us aren't really very good at. Having labels and signposts and mile markers helps a great deal, especially if we're already frustrated with what feels like a significant lack of progress. And telling us something like "The only way to progress is to not worry about progressing" is only more frustrating.

@kaygo If having labels, signpost or mile markers help you than you already know those. Yet you write that it leads to frustration and a lack of progress (based on those same milestones?). How would you measure progression? How would you measure enjoyment?

Saying something like 'The only way to progress is to not worry about progressing' might sound vague or could even be untrue, in the way that not worrying won't automatically lead to something good but the opposite is true for sure. Worrying about progressing will hold you back and lead to frustration. This requirement for abstract thinking you mention is just an assumption. In fact, it requires very little thought.

Ask yourself what the goal of this hobby is. Is it simply to live the words others use to describe an orgasm?
It can be very difficult to live up to another man's definitions mostly because how you understand them might not be the same as what the person typing it up meant. Therefore it is good advice not to worry about it.

I could describe what it is like for me to taste a beef steak in such a vivid and embellished way like some advertising guru. Once ordered the majority of people would find it not living up to that expectation. Regardless of whether it is a good steak or not.

@Unfug thanks again for the clarification & wisdom. Looking forward to applying the techniques

@kaygo I obviously agree with you, clarifying the feelings as to what they are with all the terms thrown out on this forum I believe is helpful. But one thing I've learned to help is have no expectations going in to a session. Also plenty of undisturbed time. Frustration with the process is a sensation killer.