To reach a true full body dry orgasm as a beginner, should you stimulate beyond the point that you think you can't take it anymore?

@Cariost From my experience (I’m new as well) there is no release per se. The O’s just keep coming one after another, like waves. The key is to relax into them. Read up on the do nothing method and really control your breathing (slow and relaxed), that really works for me. Learn to shift your mind from traditional O’s, ejaculation and orgasm are two separate events. You cannot force pleasure the full body O will happen at some point... Don’t chase after the O, be present and enjoy what your body is feeling. You cannot accelerate the process by using strong contractions. Strong contractions are counterproductive. Either hold gentle contractions, or, don’t focus consciously on contracting, and just follow the subtle pleasure.

Thanks so much O-Surfer  (great name!)  So just to confirm, I shouldn't try to keep stimulating past the point I think I can't take it anymore?  I really don't care to ejaculate for sure - but the whole body convulsing orgasm sounds incredible!

@Cariost You can if you wish, but the idea is to get the involuntary contractions going so that your body is doing it and not you consciously doing it. I use the "Do Nothing" method. You might read up on that. Also, see my first post from yesterday, there are some links to GREAT resources. Good Luck!

Awesome, thanks tons O-Surfer.

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I shouldn't try to keep stimulating past the point I think I can't take it anymore?  I really don't care to ejaculate for sure

I don't think you should try to avoid ejaculation either, because what you anticipate as an ejaculation-precursor might just be a dry orgasm. It's possible to feel ejaculation contractions that don't end the session. It also depends on what you mean by "Can't take it anymore", because maybe that limit is psychological. Sometimes there's a point of "letting go", and just allowing your body and mind to be deeply fucked by the orgasm, without trying to control or steer it. I've allowed myself to fall into orgasms that seemed impossible, and in some cases even "forbidden", and those were mental barriers. I guess I'd say forget about what you "think" you can handle.

@clenchy what was your psychological barrier and how did you overcome it?

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@clenchy what was your psychological barrier and how did you overcome it?

I think there have been several cases, which can be hard to make sense of. Fear of loss of "self", fear of death. Always needing to be in control, and having the final "say" in what I feel. Sometimes this was like jumping off a cliff, sometimes it was more of something that I allowed to build without any struggle at all, but did so behind my own back. When I used to smoke weed, I'd find success in getting so stoned that I wasn't enough "myself" for my orgasm-hesitance to kick in to begin with (though I don't advocate fucking up your dopamine on THC, because it can be a hard road back).

Sometimes it was just hugging myself around the shoulders and telling myself, "we'll be fine with what ever happens". But these are my anxieties. The common thread is getting out of my own way, in weird ways I didn't expect. Stop trying to shape the session to fit your desired experience, and just settle yourself down for a "prostate massage", and go along with what ever response you get from that. To stop talking and to start listening, whether you get what you want or not.

@clenchy this is amazing thank you. Hope you were able to find the peace you were looking for

Well it's not something I can say I've overcome exactly, it's more like something I get right sometimes, or happens accidentally, and I notice after the fact. I've been an anxious type for as long as I can remember, and these slow-approach orgasms give my brain plenty of time to over-think and fuss. But it gets easier the more often you get near these higher states, they become familiar and less scary. So a little bravery each time, a little more patience can push you forward.

Some amount of "belief in the impossible" helps too. When something really ramps up it can feel like it's bending the limits of what is possible or allowed by reality. I've experienced that, and I've read other people's experiences mentioning the same. I find there's a certain mental-stance I can take that opens me up to it, where I'm like "Okay, let something impossible happen. Surprise me". Rather than trying to reach for something I've already felt before. Not letting my "wants" lead the experience.

@o-surfer you definitely nailed it! I learned to use the do nothing approach and let my body direct where I’m going while being totally relaxed! Only then did I break through the obstacles that were holding me back from experiencing an intense continuous orgasm and pure ecstasy!

@fred27 it really is the best approach in my opinion. This adventure has been amazing for me, I’ve learned how to a-less almost on demand, however that does take a bit of effort, i.e. mild contractions. Thanks tomidgasm I’ve learned how to do it easily. This multi-orgasm journey and the info to do so is POWERFUL! I am now at the point where each session is so intense that I think I will start allowing to reward myself as a treat once a week. I’ve been aggressively learning and practicing for four months now with almost daily sessions and my body is telling me, take it easy dude!