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11/15/2010 8:30 pm
Now that I've posted a few tales of my recent successes with MMO techniques, I want to try to sort out what practices and tools I think have been most useful, and why.
To begin with, about the Key Sound: I can say with certainty that the MOST important practice along my journey, the most fundamental tool has been the Key Sound, as created and described by Jack Johnston. I won't go into too much detail about how to do the Key Sound, you'll have to head over to Jack's website and forum to get the details. I will say that both of the sets of mp3s that he sells are, while expensive, well worth the investment. I've listened to them many times over now, and each time I do so it helps to refine my method.
(One word of warning: the "beginner" and "advanced" mp3s were created some years apart, with the second set being more of a refinement of the first, rather than a continuation. There were many things about the first set of instructions that I found confusing or or even in direct contradiction to the latter ones. I'm hoping, as he says he is doing, that he'll release a single, up-to-date, consolidated version of the whole set, to avoid sending those who buy just the first set down dead-ends. In other words, you are best off getting the whole package, and listening to it as a single unit, right from the get go.)
So why was the Key Sound so important for me? Jack presents the Key Sound primarily as an amplifier of arousal, but I actually think that it's ability to amplify arousal is a secondary effect. He also describes it as a means for releasing tension and pent-up energy, and it is my suspicion that THIS is its primary effect. It seems to me that arousal and erotic energy is stopped in its tracks by tension, pain, negative energy, etc. By using the KS to release these blockages, arousal is then able to flow naturally. I have several bits of evidence to support this understanding.
As I said earlier, I began serious study of MMO about 6 months ago. I'd "used" the Aneros on and off for a few years, mostly to enhance ejaculatory orgasms, but also experimenting a little with generating MMOs, with very little success. When I decided to get serious about all this, I began by learning the KS, since I was unsure that the Aneros method was going to get me anywhere. (My feeling about this has obviously changed, but, at least for me, the Aneros method was not going to succeed without the KS under my belt first.)
So for the last 6 mo or so, this has been my practice: following the 20m, 2-3 times/week KS "protocol", as a pure practice. By pure practice, I mean that during those sessions I do not incorporate other tools or practices, I simply do the key sound for 20 minutes, while relaxing and using small amounts of gentle erotic stimulation. (If you are unfamiliar with the KS protocol, the details are in Jack's mp3s.) I tried my best to do this at least a couple of times a week, usually in the mornings before work, when I wasn't already distracted by other things. (Doing it in the morning was my own idea, and a great one, if I don't say so myself, since it turns out to be a wonderful way to start the day.)
Meanwhile, when I had time to explore OTHER methods such as the Aneros, I did those outside of my regular KS practice. (One way I diverged from the protocol as described by Jack is that I also used the KS during these "experimental" sessions. He suggests avoiding such mixing and matching, but I assumed, rightly for me, that if the KS was an amplifier of arousal, it would help to increase the effects of most other practices.)
Progress was very slow, both in my general KS practices as well as in my "side projects", happening mostly in fits and starts, but it did occur. The first indication that something was changing as a result of my efforts was that gradually my need for ejaculatory release, either in my sessions or outside of them, lessened.
When I first began all this, if I began a session, and (as I never did, until recently) I did not achieve an orgasm, I would ALWAYS finish the session with an ejaculation, except on my morning 20m sessions. At the end of the session, would find myself keyed up, frustrated, and feeling like I'd wasted time and energy, with nothing to show for it, and would give myself a consolation prize of an ejaculatory orgasm. (This is the primary reason I felt the Aneros would not work; I just could not for the life of me plug that thing in without having a traditional orgasm at the end. Try as I might, I just could not deny myself some modicum of pleasure at the end of another dud session.)
But as I continued practicing, I noticed that this need for resolution or satisfaction fell away. Little by little, I found myself enjoying the session for what it was, even if "nothing" much happened. I'd close the session free of some level of sexual tension that had been there at the opening, even though I'd had no orgasm to speak of. Soon, it became the norm. I even had several instances of non-practice intercourse with my partner where I was perfectly happy to forgo ejaculation. Thing is, I had no explanation for this transformation, aside from regular practice of the Key Sound.
Here's what I think was happening: doing the KS regularly allowed me to release pent-up sexual energy and tension. That pent up energy is the source of the need for ejaculatory gratification; by releasing it, I began to lose the need for it, both in my MMO sessions and elsewhere. Long before I started having MMOs, I started ejaculating by choice rather than out of need, and all thanks to the KS's ability to release tension.
The most important part of all this is that the KS works on this level EVEN IF nothing much "happens" while following the 20m protocol, or even afterward, in the form of Echo Effects. In other words, it has this effect even if you don't know it, even if you think it's not working. (Even now, my morning sessions are relatively tame, although certainly much more happens than used to.) That is why I think releasing tension is its primary function. The Key Sound is a valve for releasing negative energy.
Here's another anecdote to support that idea. Once, on the heels of an argument with my wife that left me tense and angry, I had the thought to try doing the KS, not to generate arousal, but rather to release the tension that had built up within me. In just a few minutes of doing the practice, I felt calm, free of anger, and forgiving of her and myself. The Key Sound is a valve for releasing negative energy.
One last anecdote: Since I've had more success with MMOs, here is what I've noticed: When I feel the energy waves building, I notice that they flow freely through parts of my body, only to be blocked in other places. When the waves encounter blockages, those areas tense up, as if they are attempting to bar further movement. If I focus on those areas and make a KS, I can feel the tension release, and the wave begin to move past it and grow stronger. The Key Sound is a valve for releasing tension, allowing other energies (arousal, orgasm, etc.) to move freely and grow.
That's all I'll say for now, but I welcome questions and comments.
Remember, RELAXATION is the key to all this, and relaxation is the absence of tension. The Key Sound is an excellent tool for releasing tension, and an essential one for me.
Cheers
k
11/15/2010 9:19 pm
excellent post karyon. thanks. much to be learned from it. i think the idea of relieving tension as a fundamental is very sound.
darwin
11/15/2010 9:20 pm
karyon,
I am very pleased to hear the KSMO method has proven so effective for you. I mostly agree with everything you've said, in particular -
The most important part of all this is that the KS works on this level EVEN IF nothing much "happens" while following the 20m protocol, or even afterward, in the form of Echo Effects. In other words, it has this effect even if you don't know it, even if you think it's not working.
Aneros use by newbies often follows a similar path, in both practices, self discipline and patience is essential before some successes emerge.
Remember, RELAXATION is the key to all this, and relaxation is the absence of tension. The Key Sound is an excellent tool for releasing tension, and an essential one for me.
Physical and mental relaxation are indeed essential elements for allowing yourself to expereience these multi-orgasmic states and the more orgasms you have the easier it is for you to return to those relaxed states in the future. You are rewiring your body to live continuously on a higher energy plane of being. Congratulations on your transition to this higher level.
11/16/2010 12:38 am
Well well again karyon!! 😀 😀
And friends darwin and rumel!!! I agree with you both here too!!!
It will be interesting to see if Pan and mog catch this great thread as well. They are both multi-discipline practioners where Aneros in an important tool, yet Key Sound is the core of their practices. The same is true for me. Thank you again for your careful and thoughtful observations and detailed documentation here. Your analysis and thesis on relaxation and the Key Sound are vital to the best practice for both these complementary techniques, Aneros and KSMO, IMHO. I hope Hydraulic Jack enjoys this thread too!!! 😀
We whose journeys have merged the paths of Aneros and KSMO have each done that in our own, usually intuitive, ways that fit our background and temperament; the habits of being we bring to this MMO adventure and ongoing journey. Over this year, I have confessed to being a "bad boy" of both practices because I quickly began using KSMO in my Aneros sessions to great effect. That is what felt right and the next important step at the time for me, and I have never regretted it. I have gone back in more recent years and had stretches of sessions of only one or the other, and those have had great merit now for me too. Jack has known of this and is happy to encourage each person to follow what their body/mind suggests to them, explore and experiment, always knowing you can return to the protocol, and benefit from that path again. Rumel and the others who initiated the Super-O Society have made it open to both Anerosians and KeySMOzians. Many of us are hybrids, and boy do we get fantastic clean mileage!!!
From another point of view, slightly, just as you have articulated the arousal/relaxation opening, amplification, flow and balance with Key Sound, so there is also a wonderful yang/yin opening, amplification, flow and balance with Key Sound. And both dimensions are excellent openings and refinements in Aneros practice, just as Aneros prostate 'awakening" physically is a huge complement to the Key Sound approach. The two together in one's quiver are astoundingly powerful so gently as to lift one into the full spectrum of energetic ecstatic possibilities. Great gratitude to both HIH/Aneros and Jack Johnston/KSMO both!!
Thanks again karyon too!!
all the very best deep relaxation, opening, amplification, flow and balance energetically all
artform
11/16/2010 9:07 am
excellent post Karyon. I too tried to work with the key sound and having no success gave up on it. A while back I decided that I didn't get serious enough to really give it a chance so I purchased the second set of mp3 files you talk about. I will agree with you that the second set is more helpful than the first. I found the track where Jack does an actual 20 min key sound session to be most helpful and would put on the headphones and follow along with his timing and intensity.
Unlike you, I once again lost intrest and my ksmo session have become further and further apart. I just can't help myself that when I have any free time I want the satisfaction of an aneros up my butt. Although not having ever achieved a super O, I can generally reach the calm seas orgasmic state and stay there for great lenghts.
Your post has inspired me to once again start up my ksmo sessions and hopefully this time I will stick with it. I feel I am so close to achieving a super O and always felt that the key sound could be what I need. I do usually make the key sound part of my aneros sessions and find that doing so will really amp up the waves. I can feel the energy pushing down from my throat to my prostrate but can't seem to bring the energy away from my genital area or circulate it throughout my body.
There was a time when I, like you, couldn't help myself and had to end the session with a traditional masterbation orgasm, but that stage was long ago and the only time I have an ejaculation with the aneros in place is when having sex with the wife.
11/16/2010 12:15 pm
Karyon, thank you so much for this post.
I did my first key sound session last night after only having listened to the first CD and having already masturbated about 2 hours prior. Even so, my session resulted in my body feeling really good. I'm really excited about making this a daily thing.
Would doing KS everyday be a bad thing? I know you recommended doing it 3 times a week, would I get better gains by only doing 3?
Any other things that pop in your head about your journey and success, or things that discouraged your progress please share 🙂
BMF
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11/16/2010 9:22 pm
Thanks everyone for the replies. I 'm glad to hear my ideas resonated with you, especially with all of the seasoned pros. I'm not very far along with any of this, and just trying to make sense of it all. Your responses (and my body's own, of course) suggest I'm on the right track. And I hope Mog and Pan pop in, I'd be glad to hear their takes as well. Their posts here and at the KS forum have also been very helpful for me.
Would doing KS everyday be a bad thing? I know you recommended doing it 3 times a week, would I get better gains by only doing 3?
Any other things that pop in your head about your journey and success, or things that discouraged your progress please share
BMF -
Glad to hear you were inspired to try the KS, and got a quick glimpse of what it has to offer. As for your question, I'd suggest sticking with the every-other-day schedule, at least at first. Jack says it is helpful to have off days, to let your body adjust to the effects, and I agree. Moreover, doing it every day will tend to encourage pushing too hard to "get" somewhere. Better to just do it as a regular practice, and not worry about rushing things along. (Frankly, I find it difficult to find the time to do it more than that. 2 or 3 times a week for 20m is in many ways an ideal "workout" schedule for me. If it called for more than that, I'd likely not have succeeded.)
Cheers
K
11/17/2010 7:49 pm
Hi Karyon, (and friends all):)
An interesting and thoughtful analysis of the way the Key Sound grabs your self.
And your findings ring some bells for me, too.
Far be it for me to hold forth on the fundamentals of Jack’s technique because I was never much good at sticking with the guidelines – his 20-min session and alternate days recommendations I foolishly took little notice of - and I sometimes mixed the KSMO with the Aneros.
Nevertheless, my own corrupted version of the training seems to have paid off in good measure because I’m sure I must attribute my amazing MMOs (I’m not bragging) in most part to Jack’s KSMO.
But, if pressed, I would cheerfully admit that my progress along the MMO trail might have been quicker if I had followed Jack’s guidelines. Even now I find that a day off practice gives a remarkable boost to the next session’s erotic magic, giving me evidence that alternate days makes much sense whether learning or just enjoying the fruits.
BTW Karyon, I bought just Jack’s original CD because it was the only one around at the time – I didn’t go for his second edition.
Like you, I was never completely sure that I was able to realise the full potential of the Key Sound as an arousal amplifier. For me, total relaxation and mental focus on the developing sensations together with a bit of virtual imagery seemed to work quite well, as they still do.
>So why was the Key Sound so important for me? Jack presents the Key Sound primarily as an amplifier of arousal, but I actually think that it's ability to amplify arousal is a secondary effect. He also describes it as a means for releasing tension and pent-up energy, and it is my suspicion that THIS is its primary effect……………..The Key Sound is a valve for releasing tension, allowing other energies (arousal, orgasm, etc.) to move freely and grow.<
That too, rings a bell with me. Currently I find that the very highest intensity of sensation in the orgasmic cycle occurs at the point when the orgasm phase blends into the beginning of the Ride (Notes from the Zone). It is at that moment that I feel a compelling need "to do something” about the energy which is then growing quickly to seemingly impossible levels. At this point a spontaneous energetic loud scream, shout or roar usually occurs and it is that which incredibly magnifies the sensations and spreads them out to every part of the body, and, at the same time, renders their huge power tolerable.
A roar at this stage and the good effects that it imparts upon the strength, spread and quality of the orgasm seems so much in tune with the Key Sound that I tend to agree with you that, for some of us at least, a significant beneficial bonus effect of the Sound is the prevention of energy build reaching uncomfortable or disturbing levels.
Good luck,
Mog
11/17/2010 7:54 pm
excellent post karyon. thanks. much to be learned from it. i think the idea of relieving tension as a fundamental is very sound.
darwin
Agreed, absolutely essential reading in terms of posts. It's given me plenty of good ideas to start working on.
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11/18/2010 9:23 am
Far be it for me to hold forth on the fundamentals of Jack’s technique because I was never much good at sticking with the guidelines – his 20-min session and alternate days recommendations I foolishly took little notice of - and I sometimes mixed the KSMO with the Aneros.
Same here. In the beginning, I didn't adhere to the 20m rule either, since I really didn't think it was long enough to "get" anywhere. Now I do stick to the 20m limit in the mornings, but go past that when time allows. One of the many things that has bugged me about the KSMO "method" is that nowhere is it explained when or how you should "graduate" beyond the beginner's stage. Obviously, many people have very long sessions with the KS, but nowhere in the protocol is it spelled out how you go from the 20m stage to the unlimited one. Getting people in the forum to describe how they knew they were ready for longer sessions is like pulling teeth. I think you are just supposed to know you are ready.
Nevertheless, my own corrupted version of the training seems to have paid off in good measure because I’m sure I must attribute my amazing MMOs (I’m not bragging) in most part to Jack’s KSMO.
I've followed your accounts, so I know what you mean. Your descriptions have been an inspiration for my own explorations.
Like you, I was never completely sure that I was able to realise the full potential of the Key Sound as an arousal amplifier. For me, total relaxation and mental focus on the developing sensations together with a bit of virtual imagery seemed to work quite well, as they still do.
I'd be curious to hear more about your "virtual imagery", if you are willing to share. Also, I'm curious to know if you have had much success with Jack's "hot spot" perineal massage methods. Lately I've had a little more sensitivity in that area, but I've never quite understood how to work the hot spots effectively while still adhering to the "single caress" aspect of the protocol. To get any response from my body down there, I have to do much more continuous/firmer exploring than he seems to recommend.
A roar at this stage and the good effects that it imparts upon the strength, spread and quality of the orgasm seems so much in tune with the Key Sound that I tend to agree with you that, for some of us at least, a significant beneficial bonus effect of the Sound is the prevention of energy build reaching uncomfortable or disturbing levels.
Glad to hear you agree. It's helpful to know that my intuition is correct.
Cheers
k
11/20/2010 12:52 pm
>One of the many things that has bugged me about the KSMO "method" is that nowhere is it explained when or how you should "graduate" beyond the beginner's stage. Obviously, many people have very long sessions with the KS, but nowhere in the protocol is it spelled out how you go from the 20m stage to the unlimited one. I’d be curious to hear more about your "virtual imagery", if you are willing to share.Also, I'm curious to know if you have had much success with Jack's "hot spot" perineal massage methods.Lately I've had a little more sensitivity in that area, but I've never quite understood how to work the hot spots effectively while still adhering to the "single caress" aspect of the protocol. To get any response from my body down there, I have to do much more continuous/firmer exploring than he seems to recommend.<
I would drop what reads as a too dynamic approach if I were you for the reasons I’ve already given. Eventually you will not need any stimulation at all to come to unprecedented and unbeatable orgasms – just the desire will get you there. But eventually, with luck, you will find that a single light touch, practically anywhere on the body, can launch you into a massively enhanced orgasm.
Mog
11/21/2010 11:24 am
>One of the many things that has bugged me about the KSMO "method" is that nowhere is it explained when or how you should "graduate" beyond the beginner's stage. Obviously, many people have very long sessions with the KS, but nowhere in the protocol is it spelled out how you go from the 20m stage to the unlimited one. <
Yes, that bugged me somewhat. Although it seems not to be spelled out as such I’ve always taken it that the 20min guideline is primarily for beginners and mostly relevant for the early stages of re-wiring. I’ve always assumed that little, regular-and-often are good practices for assimilating the basics of a radically new and fundamental skill.
At what point can one graduate to free-ranging daily sessions? I can’t say. I think that it’s best to follow one’s own lights and enjoy the ride without taking things too seriously and becoming analytical, or, conversely, working too hard at it, because either can inhibit progress.
But I’m sure you know that already!
Sage advice indeed, and yet for those who are relentlessly curious and scientific, meditative observation and feverish patterning that respectfully and gratefully does not in any way intrude or "reach" for the energetic things themselves, can actually add to the energies as I experience all this, uniquely or otherwise.
>I’d be curious to hear more about your "virtual imagery", if you are willing to share.<
Normally classified information, but for you – drooling over images of 1950’s Chevvies:.
😀 😀 😀 Fantastic Mog!!! This is all about aesthetics and aesthetic responses and powers ultimately, IMHO. Whatever launches your Starships friends!!! Ultimately porn can become a distraction rather than a source of energetic Jing arousal.
This is all about your whole being beauty and truth; your beautiful connections in universal love.
>Also, I'm curious to know if you have had much success with Jack's "hot spot" perineal massage methods.<
I’ve never gone down there – IMHO it’s too close to the diversionary activity of masturbation. I believe that subtle and light nipple stim is just about right for learning the business because the main objective is to get the brain trained up to create the orgasms just by itself. Giving the brain too much assistance can defeat the object of the exercise.
Mog you are right again, butt I too needed to find a way to feel open allow free flow of these energies in that area too, and enable the full natural development of their potential there. The perineum and down into the inner thighs is a great storage area for Yin energies. See my mode of accomplishing this in my Blog, at The Master Organist/Sultan of BagJazz posts: http://www.aneros.com/displayblog.php?id=3544
Now, in our scared scissors position, when mrs. a and I are well into the whole complex of energies exchanging, I get THE most exquisite irrepressible blossoms of energies through my scrotum (Great Scrotum-Os men!!!) that she feels just as much right through her thigh and up into her vagina and anus, as mine spread up my penis and up the inguinal canals to my retracted balls, Testicular-Os!!!, along the creamaster muscles and up into the unique centres of the Solar Plexus Chakra and Heart Chakra... and... ...
>Lately I've had a little more sensitivity in that area, but I've never quite understood how to work the hot spots effectively while still adhering to the "single caress" aspect of the protocol. To get any response from my body down there, I have to do much more continuous/firmer exploring than he seems to recommend.<
I would drop what reads as a too dynamic approach if I were you for the reasons I’ve already given. Eventually you will not need any stimulation at all to come to unprecedented and unbeatable orgasms – just the desire will get you there. But eventually, with luck, you will find that a single light touch, practically anywhere on the body, can launch you into a massively enhanced orgasm.
Mog
Well there it is!!! The Key to the Kingdom simply gifted from the Knight Commander of the Order of Orgasmic Ecstatic Excellence, Sir Mog of MultiOrgattainia!!! Wonderful you could drop by Sir!
Thanks so much for this great conversation at the heart of this great journey Karyon and mog and all.
what a great joy to be able to relax and compare notes from our log books and share the astounding journey adventures with such great eroticists, scholars and gentlemen all
artform
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11/21/2010 4:09 pm
Mog -
Everything you said confirms the validity of my own approach. My sense is that the gentle approach will pay the most dividends in the long run, even if the going is slow overall. I can get a fair bit of arousal & energy flowing by doing little more than relaxing with eyes closed or opened softly, doing the key sound, and the occasional light caress. Very quickly, I get myself into a light trance state. But when I open my eyes wide and/or increase the touch to a more "dynamic" level, the growing arousal seems to retreat.
In the last few sessions, I've had a new effect, glimmers of what this slow & low approach can yield: strong (but very short, so far) bursts of energy that feel like being woken up from a half-sleep by a loud noise. The effect is startling, literally and figuratively.
- k
11/29/2010 8:13 pm
Well i have looked at Jacks website and i am quite curious now but still a bit reluctant. Exploiting peoples sense of inadequacy is a lucrative business as you might know, however, the downloads are actually quite inexpensive when you take into account the time that Jack seems to be prepared to put into personally coaching people on his forum, to me that indicates objectives other than economical gain.
I am used to doing deep "cookie-monster" growling and roaring, not to become multi-orgasmic but to improve my singing. I doubt that is exactly the kind of sounds that Jack advocates, but i suspect that the purpose might be similar. It is a way to get your lower belly and pelvic floor area working, crucial for singing, but probably also a kind of regression to something more instinctual and animalistic, i used to be a "walking brain " kind of person, and in your inner "mind/body-map" those southern regions can seem so far away.
11/29/2010 10:47 pm
Growling and roaring? Are you in metal band?
11/30/2010 3:16 am
Nah! Sounds a bit "throaty" to me, what some of the Death/Black metal singers do. Investing in future vocal nodules possibly...
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