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Celecoxib200
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Hi all, after a several month long hiatus from a dedicated pursuit towards the super O, and being content enjoying my super T’s, I’ve found myself with a decent amount of free time, and a renewed desire to achieve an orgasm from prostate stimulation alone.

Prior to my hiatus however I think I got extrordinarily close, it felt as though an orgasm was about to begin, a feeling that came and went about 5 times in a 5 minute period, but was unaccomponied by the intense pleasure I typically expect of an orgasm. And I’m still left feeling unsure if what I’m doing is leading me down the right path.

I’ve been trying my best the implament kegels both before and during a session and wanted advice on how to go about it and how crucial they are to achieving a prostate orgasm.
Up to this point a do feel sensations resonating from my prostate (I assume) when performing kegels but these sensations don’t really seem to lead anywhere (yet anyway)
I think I’m experiencing “A less” sensations as well, as even after I’ve stopped I can feel pleasurable “fluttery” feelings coming from my prostate but am again unsure of what exactly to do with these feelings.

I know that its obviously different for different people, but would anyone have any advice about how to tell wether I’m heading in the right direction during a session, and wether I should try a specific “rhythm” with kegels?


   
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Prior to my hiatus however I think I got extrordinarily close, it felt as though an orgasm was about to begin, a feeling that came and went about 5 times in a 5 minute period, but was unaccomponied by the intense pleasure I typically expect of an orgasm.

Super-T's, while quite enjoyable, are still penile based orgasms and what you have been doing is reinforcing the neural pathways of penile based orgasms to the detriment of establishing your prostate based pleasure pathways. As a consequence you have also been reinforcing the association of orgasm with penile sensations and your orgasmic expectations continue to be set up to feel those sensations. For most men, prostate based orgasms are qualitatively different from penile based orgasms and you need to recognize that fact and open your mind to allow for a different type of orgasmic experience. Until you do that you may be stumbling forward at an awkward pace. Can you conceive that your five cycle period of sensations were actually low level orgasms?

I’ve been trying my best the implament kegels both before and during a session and wanted advice on how to go about it and how crucial they are to achieving a prostate orgasm.

There's no doubt strong pelvic floor muscles are advantageous to eliciting stronger orgasms but in and of themselves are not crucial to achieving prostate based orgasms.

Up to this point a do feel sensations resonating from my prostate (I assume) when performing kegels but these sensations don’t really seem to lead anywhere (yet anyway)

Patience, Practice and Persistence are needed. Prostate based orgasms most often take longer to build than penile based orgasms, think more along the lines of the female orgasm from G-spot stimulation. You'll get there, you just need to be patient.

I think I’m experiencing “A less” sensations as well, as even after I’ve stopped I can feel pleasurable “fluttery” feelings coming from my prostate but am again unsure of what exactly to do with these feelings.

Yeah, those sensations are characteristic 'butt buzz' (see the Glossary).

I know that its obviously different for different people, but would anyone have any advice about how to tell wether I’m heading in the right direction during a session, and wether I should try a specific “rhythm” with kegels?

I would advise against going for Super-T's until you have developed a consistent ability to achieve Super-O's. Once you've got those new neural pathways firmly established, then occasional Super-T's shouldn't distort your ability to prostate orgasm. As far as a Kegel regime goes, I don't think it matters a whole lot what kind of pattern you follow as long as you keep developing the muscles and adventurously use different combinations of muscles to maneuver your Aneros during sessions. The basic guideline for use is "follow the path of pleasure".
Good Vibes to You !


   
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The pelvic muscle conditioning plan I use.... while stopped at red lights waiting for green so I can make a left hand turn, I kegel to the beat of the turn signal. My goal is to stay exactly in sync with the signal clicks. Harder than it sounds, but once my PC muscles got in shape, this has kept them there. As a side benefit, I have learned how to steer my Eupho in all three axis. But that still goes out the window when the involuntaries start.


   
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@Azrael: Rumel's advice above is correct, but I will also add some details of my journey.
About 2 years ago I started a self designed kegel regimen to help slight ED symptoms. After 4 months of regular and focused kegel exercises I discovered that I could duplicate the ejaculatory orgasm without the ejaculation, AKA, a " dry orgasm". This was accomplished by gentle and focused manipulation of my highly developed pelvic floor muscles. This all took place before I owned my first Aneros. So I basically learned to "Aless" before I utilized an Aneros. I now perform weekly prostate massages with the Aneros and enjoy Aless daily.
Everyone's experiences are different but i believe highly developed pelvic muscles are a definite asset to this journey.


   
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@rumel
Thank you for the advice, and I had absolutely no idea that super T’s could be a hinderance to my progress, and will make an effort to avoid them until I can reliably orgasm from prostate stimulation.

What is your opinion on edging however? Because I often edge prior to a session to “get the engines reved up” so to speak, and I’ve read that penis stim is discoraged if one wants to have a prostate orgasm

I will definately keep up my practice however, and at the moment I am for the most part trying to enjoy the sensations for what they are, and not neccessarily to try to force an orgasm.
The time that I did experience those low level orgasms it took about 2 hours and I was mostly just trying to get a feel for things and enjoy the experience, I’ll try to continue things with a similar mindset.

@DLD
It does indeed sound quite tiring, but quite rewarding. I’ll do my best the get my PC muscles into similar shape.

@Ananewb-Wow
That sounds amazing! How long did it take you to get to that point? Can you basically orgasm, hands free, on command?
Thank you for the advice


   
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What is your opinion on edging however? Because I often edge prior to a session to “get the engines reved up” so to speak, ...

I think 'edging' as an arousal generator (without your Aneros in situ, at least in your initial rewiring phase) is as valid as other arousal enhancement techniques. The point about avoiding penis stimulation in association with prostate stimulation still applies as you want to firmly establish the neural pleasure paths of prostate orgasm as distinct from penile orgasm generation, especially penile stimulation leading to ejaculations. Getting yourself aroused via 'edging' does prime your prostate, it will bring extra blood flow to your pelvic area, swelling your prostate and enervating the nerves there. When you feel sufficiently aroused that you then want to change focus to prostate stimulation, that's the time to cease penile stimulation and insert your Aneros and focus your mental and physical energy on your prostate based sensations.

I will definately keep up my practice however, and at the moment I am for the most part trying to enjoy the sensations for what they are, and not neccessarily to try to force an orgasm.

That's a wiser choice.
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I began my Aneros journey in early June 2012. About that time, I received helpful advice from an Aneros user: "Do the Kegel Exercises. No only will you strengthen your pelvic floor muscles, but the Kegels will give you stronger erections." Besides that advice, I received the spin off: The more you do the Kegel Exercises, the more pleasurable they feel. Also you will reach the point that the Kegels become automatic in a sense. And yes, the Kegels will benefit your Aneros sessions, and even, versa vice!

Also please refer to the thread on various Kegel Exercise regimens:

https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/need-for-kegel-exercise


   
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@Azrael :
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That sounds amazing! How long did it take you to get to that point? Can you basically orgasm, hands free, on command?"

My progress was fairly quick once I learned the "dry orgasm" thru kegel exercises. I was having orgasms very regular after 5-6 months. Now, after 2 years of practice I can have extremely intense prostate orgasms with or without an Aneros. The use of the Aneros intensifies the sensations but then the next Aless session I have exceeds the intensity of the last Aneros session. The progress for me is constantly changing, becoming ever deeper and more intense with each session. It takes practice, patience, and persistence. Enjoy the journey!


   
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I havea routine where I do 300 kegels a day. Its literally buiot the muscles in that area up to a point where at any point I can start a prostate session.


   
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