That’s it. I’m throwing in the towel!!

Hey Joe, thats absolutely fine. In my early journey I stopped a few times with months in between and even discarded my first Aneros because I was frustrated. Not everyone hits the ground running. Maybe take a long break and come back to try it again, but don't make the same mistake as I did in throwing away the Aneros! You could also try treating each session more of a relaxing therapy time for yourself with any pleasure generated by the Aneros as a bonus - having no expectations so you don't get disappointed.

The rewiring is just learning patience,accepting pleasure outside the usual dick parameters,and not to chase orgasm like sex. I was in your shoes for a long time,until someone here told me I was doing too much,trying to hard,and I accepted what they said,and I started going much easier,and more relaxed. My contractions now are virtually a competition to see how easy and gingerly I can make them and I’ve taken to this diaphragm breathing and it does really work. It’s hard to hear but the frustration your venting is your worst enemy. You’ve got to get to a mindset where a session that brings pleasure but no orgasm is not a failed session,just take what comes and be happy with it. Take your session back a gear or two,roll back the power of contractions etc.whatever you do whether it’s porn or mental fantasy,just try to kind of forget the Aneros and don’t focus so much on it,just enjoy and sensations and flutters than come while your arousing yourself. Keep the faith 🙂

You know it took me 10 years to get any kind of response. During that time i had frequented the forums here and had to put up with people saying how it "worked the first time they tried" and other such total BS.

I have to say i feel at least 70% of the issues experienced inmaking progress is as a result of this forum and the expectations that it creates for users. I totally agree with you on this and understand completely your frustration.

Yeah; I'm finding that though I did some prostate massage years ago without the benefit of any of this (Aneros) stuff, with great pleasure, now, 20 years later, even WITH the professionally designed Aneros Helix, out of six or seven uses of it spaced over about a month, I'm not getting anywhere near like I remembered 20 years ago. So I'll take it slowly and have minimal expectations and will see what happens eventually.

Took me about 10 years to know what a "prostate orgasm" truly felt like, after trying relentlessly the whole time.

@Joe157 have you ever tried to have a traditional orgasm/ejaculation with the Aneros still in you? That, at least to me, can awaken to you in a very easy, and intense, way how the toy can move while your body is in the throes of orgasm. When I have prostate Os, the toy moves in just about the same way, although not as intensely. If anything, since you are not having prostate Os like you'd wish you were having, you could at least use the Aneros as a turbo-charger to your normal orgasm/ejaculation?! I think that's worth it!

I was just like you, and just like you and the other guy who through his device away. If you look at my profile looks like I have been around forever. I threw 2 devices away in the first five years. never had time or privacy to really enjoy and was always rushing and expecting to much. The last few years though totally different still have trouble getting the quite, privet alone time that is essential for me to have success. Take a break and give it a try again and see what happens. In the mean time try some short a- less sessions every once in a while and see if you can stir something up with out the aneros. You probably will get the urge to try again and that is the first step in your re wiring. You can listen and read all of this a thousand times but somehow your body and mostly your mind figures it out and then its great.
Good Luck.

I summoned a pretty good amount of precum yesterday without the Aneros! I am even more confused now!!! Yesterday I was sitting in my chair at work and decided to do some contractions and concentrated breathing. To my surprise this felt almost good and when I went to the pisser I had some precum on my boxers.....When I went home I did it again in the privacy of my house and this time was even more fulfilling. I summoned a good amount of precum in only ten minutes or so and the “almost good feelings” were even stronger!! So I did what I thought I should and stuck an Aneros up my ass. It was pleasurable but I definitely felt more sensation without it and now I’m kicking myself for not just continuing without it. ANY HELP???

@Joe157, why use your Aneros, although you obviously don't need it for now? It's why I've choosen this my name. 😉

You can go a lot further if you can stop kicking yourself,you had an a less and Aneros session today,you got some pleasure,take the good from that,next time,just try not to look ahead of the pleasure you feel in the moment,just enjoy it,if you can stop looking ahead in a session,it’ll get stronger and stronger. Stop thinking it feels almost good and learn that it IS good.

try not to look ahead of the pleasure you feel in the moment

This definitely helps, don't wait for something big to hit you out of nowhere and take you against your will. It doesn't tend to arrive like that, it's more like a very small thing that slowly gets nicer the more you enjoy it. If you ride that slow upwards trajectory far enough, it can go higher than you imagined possible. You may need to clear some roadblocks along the way, and learn to open parts of yourself, but that's the journey... next session you might not have to overcome the same obstacles, and discover yet new territory.

Quote of the year by @Tommygunn :

"Stop thinking it feels almost good and learn that it IS good."

Read this quote, truly understand it and you will expand your understanding of the journey of prostate sensations!

Quote of the year by @Tommygunn :

"Stop thinking it feels almost good and learn that it IS good."

Read this quote, truly understand it and you will expand your understanding of the journey of prostate sensations!

And the more you celebrate what you just are feeling,
the more intense this feeling will become.

Like taking a little sip of wine and savouring every drop, rolling it around to all sensory spots in your mouth. Awareness!

And the more you celebrate what you just are feeling,
the more intense this feeling will become.

Youre assuming things here, people do this a lot here. This mantra has not been true for me and im sure many others. Let the guy do what he wants to do, this aneros experience is not a universal one nor is it one that is necessarily positive, to some it is even damaging. So....understand that.

@The_Fury Hey,what’s up with you man,you always seem so angry in your posts,this forum is just a bunch of guys trying to help each along. No one has to post,but when they do,they are hoping for some answers and help. I mean,the op actually wrote on the end of his last post. Any help??? If I personally have offended you in some way,I apologise,that was never my intention.

I was one of the lucky ones that felt something within the first 30 minutes or so but have had many indiferrent sessions since then. I accept that it won't work every time but think having the device in place is beneficial none the less and on that premise it's worth doing.
For me 90% is what is going on inside my head. I have to get to that place, a thought or situation witnessed previously that aroused me causes a reaction in my prostate. I only found this out when I started using the Aneros. The other 10% is what other contributors have suggested, nipple touching, kegels and the like.
I guess what I am trying to say to someone in the same position as Joe157 is the physical aspects such as touching, kegels etc are important but finding that place where you can be mentally aroused as well could help things.
Joe157, can I ask you a very personal question and ask when you are masturbating conventionally do you fantasize as well as the conventional physical activity. Do you have a good imagination? The brain is supposedly our largest erogenous zone but suspect to a lot of men masturbation is just friction to achieve the desired result. Personally, I can't do that, I find it too unsatisfying.
To get yourself in that place you need to be warm and comfortable. You also need time and space to let yourself go. I sympathise with men who are perhaps partnered or in a situation that does'nt give them that.
I hope that all this doesn't sound a bit fancyful but just to finish to ask Joe157 to not give up. Take a step back for now and try again in the future.

Please don't give up forever. Maybe tell yourself you'll have a short session once a week, and just keep watching. I have easy access, so I can't exactly relate to your struggle, but I wish for you the benefit you can get. I am experiencing such benefit to my mental health and to my marriage right now. It's like skipping all those therapy sessions and just getting right to lining up my being through my prostate. Please, please, please don't lose hope.

Youre assuming things here, people do this a lot here. This mantra has not been true for me and im sure many others. Let the guy do what he wants to do, this aneros experience is not a universal one nor is it one that is necessarily positive, to some it is even damaging. So....understand that.

@The_Fury, maybe you're assuming things here, I AM NOT. For an easier reading of my signature:

No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may.
We ourselves must walk the path.
BUDDHA
Instead blaze your own trail and add strings to your own bow.
Your best expert is you!

Don't hold back to blame me for your first eight years of frustration too, only joining the forum since October 2016.
I further declare, everyone may stick to his frustration.
Gladly no one can force anybody to feel lucky against his own will.

Cheers, Mart

@JohnHope, thank you all for the help. I’ll try to address everything that’s been thrown my way.
JohnHope- I guess I’m like most other guys during regular masturbation. I watch some porn, think about old girlfriends and so on. Through my journey I’ve mostly had porn playing because for me it keeps me in the moment. I’ve tried watching some then retire to my room without and it just hasn’t worked for me. So now I’m to the point that I put on softer porn and turn the volume down. I read somewhere that a guy does this and only glances at the tv when his mind starts to wander. This is what I’ve Been doing lately. The thing that’s really got me fucked up is Mondays no Aneros sessions. During my second session of the day in my house I felt things that I haven’t before! Within ten minutes I was so worked up I couldn’t wait to insert the damn thing! But when I did it was almost like it got in the way. So without it I can definitively say that I can feel my prostate from within and can feel myself “lightly squeez” it from the inside. This produces the precum which in turn, turns me on and I plan to try it more and for longer durations. I do have a question buried in this ramble, and my question is, is the sensation and precum I’m experiencing without the Aneros, through contractions, breathing and prostate squeezing the mechanisms that you guys use to produce the SO while using the Aneros??

@The_Fury, maybe you're assuming things here, I AM NOT. For an easier reading of my signature:

No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may.
We ourselves must walk the path.
BUDDHA
Instead blaze your own trail and add strings to your own bow.
Your best expert is you!

Don't hold back to blame me for your first eight years of frustration too, only joining the forum since October 2016.
I further declare, everyone may stick to his frustration.
Gladly no one can force anybody to feel lucky against his own will.

Cheers, Mart

This is to which i refer:

"And the more you celebrate what you just are feeling,
the more intense this feeling will become. "

Think this is true of anyone that uses the aneros? any research on this?

@Ananewb-Wow Quote of year? :p It’s only the 3rd week of January :D:D:D.

@The_Fury
Have you ever tried reading philosophy? You don't just read it. You study it, contemplate, compare it to other stuff you have read and your own experience. If this is your hobby it will be fun just to read how other people try to make sense of it all. You don't have to agree with any of it. It's rarely about being right or wrong; it's about growth and understanding. As a species and as an individual.

The bigger questions in life, and to a certain extent the Orgasm do not have a clear answer or definition. Even if you can explain it scientifically it doesn't cut it. A simple answer would be: It's in the eyes of the beholder. A more thorough answer would be the collection of everything on this forum. You don't even need any of it.

I do have a question ... is the sensation and precum I’m experiencing without the Aneros, through contractions, breathing and prostate squeezing the mechanisms that you guys use to produce the SO while using the Aneros??

Obviously none of us here on the forum know what you are actually experiencing as each individual is unique (I know this has become a cliché but it is still true). The techniques/mechanisms employed by different men are quite varied but even in that variation there are some commonalities which seem to prove effective depending on the combinations employed. Breathing techniques and pelvic floor muscle contractions are often cited elements contributing to Super-O sessions with Aneros massagers in situ. So in that respect, yes, those are common mechanisms but they are not the only contributors nor are they necessarily absolute determinators for successful Anerosessions.

If your body is pleasurably responding to those techniques then I think you should continue developing/refining them, but I would also advise you retain your Aneros massager(s). Don't throw them away! There have been a number of men who have taken a sabbatical from Aneros use who subsequently (sometimes years later) found success, often developing from a change of life situation. Your current life patterns may not be conducive to productive Anerosessions now but this can change in the future, so please don't give up hope. Your mental attitude, especially your subconscious, has far more influence than you may realize and it does and will change as your life progresses if you remain open minded.
Good Vibes to You !

@Joe157 For what it’s worth, I had the biggest jump in progress when I stopped only concentrating on Aneros / A-less sessions. I also took some time to observe what was happening during traditional masturbation - how my body responded, what I was actually feeling if I focused enough, how it built, how I reacted to reaching the point of no return. I started re-learning that too - rather than just going along with habits that formed in my teenage years I learned to slow down, enjoy it more, feel everything. I read about different techniques and different ways of stimulating the penis. The result was unbelievably more pleasurable wanking sessions with firmer erections that lasted longer and eventually led to powerful ejaculatory orgasms.

I got so interested in the effect this was having, chasing prostate orgasms became less of a focus for me. But there was a natural surge in progress when I did have a session. I’d become more aware of what was happening in my body, more attuned to subtle sensations etc. Combined with daily kegals (nothing major, just doing them gently while reading), it’s resulted in another change. I began to experience arousal in a different way - rather than being horny and sexually frustrated and desperate to jack off every day, I’m able to enjoy feeling aroused. It’s more subtle, but much more pleasant to experience and it means I’ve naturally gone from wanking every day to ejaculating two or three times a month. And when I do have sex, my body flips into horny mode very easily and can stay there - my stamina is much MUCH greater than it ever was before.

I’m now at a stage where I can have prostate orgasms easily and relatively quickly - but only A-less. And they keep getting better. I guess what I’m saying is, there’s a lot of excellent advice on this forum. But I spent too long trying to follow it all, text book style and then getting frustrated when it didn’t work. What ultimately worked for me was standing back, focusing on me and going with what I felt was right. And working on my masturbation in general meant I got so much more satisfaction that I stopped chasing the Big-O and started just taking things how they came - and that’s been a hugely pleasurable journey. If I never have a super-o, I don’t care - it’s enough that my sex life has changed so dramatically for the better and keeps improving all the time.

@The_Fury
Have you ever tried reading philosophy? You don't just read it. You study it, contemplate, compare it to other stuff you have read and your own experience. If this is your hobby it will be fun just to read how other people try to make sense of it all. You don't have to agree with any of it. It's rarely about being right or wrong; it's about growth and understanding. As a species and as an individual.

The bigger questions in life, and to a certain extent the Orgasm do not have a clear answer or definition. Even if you can explain it scientifically it doesn't cut it. A simple answer would be: It's in the eyes of the beholder. A more thorough answer would be the collection of everything on this forum. You don't even need any of it.

That's not my point. Saying thigs like "do this and it will increase in pleasure" or "just do this or that and this outcome will occur"

It's the supposition of a guaranteed outcome that can be a dangerous thing here.