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Okay so here's an interesting one. I've had my Aneros for a few years now. I don't think I've ever had a super O though.(giving up control is hard!) However feel like I'm making some waves recently. 

But everytime I try. I get super close. Like I can feel the good sensations. And I start to drift away in it. But my brain instead of taking me to some nice place on a beach. Instead tries to show me scary stuff! I've seen everything from literal cockroaches all over me. To old creepy houses with skeletons. I don't know why my brain does this. I do everything I can to prime it away from that imagery. And I've never had this issue pop up ever before. Needless to say it immediately gets me out of the positive sensation loop. 

 

My question is, am I alone in this? I feel like I am completely surrendering control. So it's extremely scary that my brain does this.


   
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Very interesting.

i have horror images during orgasmic moments as well as during hypnagogic hallucinatory states. It isn’t frequent, but I have “seen” monsters, dismembered body parts, insects, stabbings, SM scenes pushed too far, etc. During orgasmic moments it doesn’t bother me, it is rather interesting. During hypnagogic states it is annoying and I do my best to alter the course of the visions. Note that I have no obsession with violence in real life, except a fascination with violent crime and a tendency towards masochism.

do you take any medication? When I take painkillers, which I abused for a brief period in high school but no longer do, my hypnagogic state is horrendously violent, too much so, preventing me from actually sleeping (and ironically keeping me in that half-dream state because the drugs are soporific).

otherwise, if your brain insists on showing you these things, why not look at them with interest instead of with horror? Maybe it’s not the solution, but you could try.

 


   
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My question is, am I alone in this? I feel like I am completely surrendering control. So it's extremely scary that my brain does this.

No you're not alone! This is a phenomenon that Jack Johnston (of KSMO fame) termed "Terror at the Gates" . It is a psychological state wherein your ego consciousness is fighting letting go of its illusory control so it creates images/feelings to block/divert the process leading to orgasm. This is all your own mind creating this, however, as @divine_o suggested, you can alter the direction of the progression by facing these feelings and asking them why they are manifesting. It is important to remember your body will never do something to put you/yourself in harms way, it's just your ego messing with you, "Just Let Go !".

Good Vibes to You!

 


   
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Not experienced this but it’s a really interesting read. My terror at the gates never got any further than health e.g like having a heart attack or something silly like that. Maybe manifestations are caused by watching too much horror,violent or extreme stuff.


   
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I have intensely vivid dreams, and that goes for nightmares, too, so I can relate in part. 

Some of my sessions carry me to scary places but there is no imagery associated with them, only the "negative emotions", but they are strong and feel completely real, anyway I don't think you can have fake fear or fake anxiety...    

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But my brain instead of taking me to some nice place on a beach. Instead tries to show me scary stuff!

Maybe this is what you need to see, there's the beach and then there's that other place. @divine_o is probably right, you need to take the observer's point of view and detach yourself a little, see what happens from a different perspective.  Or really dive in it and let the feelings wash over you, even if you judge them as being negative. 

@rumel, your suggestion that this is Terror at the Gates is very interesting, as I don't remember reading about someone's Ego trying to stop them with specific scary scenarios, but it makes a whole lot of sense! To me Terror at the Gates always feel more abstract, like fear of the unknown, or fear of not being able to handle the intensity, but it's related to the session itself. I never imagined that the brain/Ego would send images that are unsettling to you and not session related so that you would "turn back", but again, I think you're right on this. 

@scarystories the good news here is that you may be close to a breakthrough if you manage to get to the other side of this, don't give up ! 

 


   
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My question is, am I alone in this? I feel like I am completely surrendering control. So it's extremely scary that my brain does this.

No you're not alone! This is a phenomenon that Jack Johnston (of KSMO fame) termed "Terror at the Gates" . It is a psychological state wherein your ego consciousness is fighting letting go of its illusory control so it creates images/feelings to block/divert the process leading to orgasm. This is all your own mind creating this, however, as @divine_o suggested, you can alter the direction of the progression by facing these feelings and asking them why they are manifesting. It is important to remember your body will never do something to put you/yourself in harms way, it's just your ego messing with you, "Just Let Go !".

Good Vibes to You!

 

Interesting, I've read the term a lot but had an imperfect understanding of the definition it seems, I've never heard it described this way.  I think I've had a touch of this myself so @scarystories you're not alone. 

 


   
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Another super weird one i had is when i was doing it front of a mirror (Aless) (I must say i had taken an edible). But i could see an energy force buzzing around my penis where the pleasure was, and where ever the pleasure moved in my body I could see the energy force move too (this may well have just been the weed but it freaked me out). As it went to my prostate the pleasure it sort of looked like a shadow came over it. It instantly turned me off and got a little freaked. 

Have had weird visions while getting into super o which stops me. Guess the key is to letting go and knowing it's just your mind. 

 

I can have had aless super O while I am on THC and really just try let go. Try focus on the colours when you close your eyes and avoiding thinking to much. 


   
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Thank you for all the replies. It is a little comforting to hear that I am not alone in this. I'll try to answer some of you guys questions. 

So for one, I definitely do not take any medication. And I'm absolutely not a horror fanatic at all. Actually I kind of wish I did like some horror movies because I feel like it might be easier to desensitize myself from the visions. 

This is probably the weirdest block in my entire experience with aneros in general. On one hand, I do feel like.. somewhere deep down, I am causing this imagery on purpose. And what I mean by that, is I have a fleeting thought that I'm scared because of the loss of control. And that in of itself was enough to break the loop for me previously. Now I'm starting to make progress and perhaps this is just the next thing I need to overcome.

 

I'm not really sure where to begin with this one. Right now these visions break me out of it immediately. And it take a long time to get there so losing it immediately can be irritating although I try not to walk away from the sessions irritated. 


   
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I can relate to this. Thanks for the info about 'Terror at the Gates'. I'll have to do more research into that and see if it helps me. I actually had to stop my aneros activities a half dozen times last night because I was afraid of the 'death of self'. When I get deep into the experience of prostate stimulation by aneros, my storytelling brain goes into overdrive and I have the perception that I am communicating with another entity. I have vivid hallucinations, including the sensation of hands on me. I'm still able to remain agnostic about what I'm experiencing but it can be rewarding and terrifying at the same time.


   
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Maybe it won't make sense to you guys, but one possibility is to slow down your buildup so the scary stuff doesn't hit you from nowhere and you have some time to approach it a little slower. Not that easy to do, but not unreasonable either. Or slow down just before you get there so you can have a look from a "safe distance". Again, don't know if this meshes with the way you experience things, but it's worth a try if you can see it working for you.  


   
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Maybe it won't make sense to you guys, but one possibility is to slow down your buildup so the scary stuff doesn't hit you from nowhere and you have some time to approach it a little slower. Not that easy to do, but not unreasonable either. Or slow down just before you get there so you can have a look from a "safe distance". Again, don't know if this meshes with the way you experience things, but it's worth a try if you can see it working for you.  

Yeah! I didn't have particularly scary visions but I had this fear of letting go that I would go insane or never return from the "trip". Weird brain defense mechanisms. 

Zentai's idea works, take it slowly, and take a moment to really see and look at those scary visions instead of stressing out. Most of the time they dissolve. I also listened to many Hypnosis / HFO audios to re-wire and attach "letting go" with warm and pleasurable feelings instead of a scary dark void. Don't know what I would have done without kinky Shibby's audios! 


   
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Glad this worked for you ! The brain/subconscious does have a lot of different little (and big) safety mechanism and I feel it's overprotective by design, so it can take some time for it/you to make sure something is not truly scary before some of the defenses can go down. Or at least, that's the way I explain it to myself. 

 


   
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@zentai yes, I think it is as well. Repetition, visualization and NLP techniques are very effective to create new associations and help bypass and re-form those brain mechanisms. Our brains (it seems to me) are wired at the most core level to give a fight or flight response… and it’s mostly a flight response to impel you to move away from unknowns and potential harm. 
No force is greater than the impulse to avoid pain and harm. At least that’s how I understand it after my experiences and research. 

 


   
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