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I've been working with the Helix classic off and on for 2 years or so. (Alot of that time was spent just getting it in!) I believe I have enough lube, it moves around pretty freely and my sphincter spasms and spasms and spasms. Indeed, an hour after I removed it my sphincter was still in spasms.

What I don't get is much FEELING. Given how much its moving around I'm pretty sure there is alot of "massaging" going on, yet there isn't much feeling other than the muscle-contraction feelings of the spasms. I would expect there to be some "pleasurable" off-and-on feeling that would correspond with the massaging motion and there isn't any. I can't help thinking I should be FEELING MORE.

How do I know if the problem is my TECHNIQUE and a need for more practice or the actual MODEL I am using? Do I just need a different size for more depth or pressure? And what different model should I chose (they aren't exactly cheap and there are over a dozen choices.) I wonder because I think its supposed sit in your rectum at the first "bump" with part of it sticking out. Mine always gets sucked completley in and really tightly. Is this incorrect?

One feeling I do get is a subtle continuous "buzzing" in my rectum. Is this a part of it? I've been getting this long before I ever used the Aneros, and I think it has increased with my ongoing kegel exercises. Does a prostate "buzz?"


   
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From what I've read, you may not feel an immediate sensation on the prostate, but you're to "rest assured your Aneros is acting on your prostate gland". It kinda swells up a little as you go along, so you'll feel more after the first forty-five minutes or so. Not sure if this is the same for the "Do nothing" approach.

As for putting it in, just slide it in halfway and let it get sucked up just like you said. With the Helix and Eupho, the last bump at the bottom is supposed to rest on the outside of the sphincter, to act as leverage. Thus.

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From what I've read, you may not feel an immediate sensation on the prostate, but you're to "rest assured your Aneros is acting on your prostate gland". It kinda swells up a little as you go along, so you'll feel more after the first forty-five minutes or so. Not sure if this is the same for the "Do nothing" approach.

As for putting it in, just slide it in halfway and let it get sucked up just like you said. With the Helix and Eupho, the last bump at the bottom is supposed to rest on the outside of the sphincter, to act as leverage. Thus.

Thank you kaygo for your response.

I have worked with the aneros for more than a year and my sessions are always at least 2 hours long. What I'm wondering is if I need a different model because, of course, all bodies are different. My prostate may be sitting a bit higher or may require more (harder) pressure. I'm not sure if my overall experience is standard (I should keep practicing) of if I need a different version: MSX, Maximus, Progasm etc. I understand how to correctly insert the aneros, I just find that it doesn't really stay it that position, it gets sucked in quite deep and tight suggesting to me that it may be the wrong size. I don't know.


   
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I don't think that you should be worrying about your aneros getting sucked in quite deep and tight. Mine does just the same, if not after initial insertion then once the orgasms start and one begins to experience involuntary clenching. However, I don't think that you should expect to feel 'off and on" pleasurable sensations. In my experience the pleasure tends to be continuous once the orgasms start and I am seldom aware of any specific sensations of massaging although I am sure that this is occurring.


   
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If it does sit higher up, it shouldn't be by much. Not enough that an aneros can't reach it. If you can reach with your own finger, try probing around. You should feel a bulb-shape just past the sphincter. If you can touch it with your finger, your model of aneros can definitely reach it. And if it's getting sucked in all the way, even more so.

Try a different position, like curled up on your knees with your butt up in the air, like you were getting an exam (Position II in the picture below). That oughta bring the gland right out to the front row.

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I don't think that you should be worrying about your aneros getting sucked in quite deep and tight. Mine does just the same, if not after initial insertion then once the orgasms start and one begins to experience involuntary clenching. However, I don't think that you should expect to feel 'off and on" pleasurable sensations. In my experience the pleasure tends to be continuous once the orgasms start and I am seldom aware of any specific sensations of massaging although I am sure that this is occurring.

Thank you for your response. Okay, I guess I will stop worrying about it getting sucked in too deep. Sometimes it just seems so tight in there that the P-tab actually hurts because its pushing so hard. I will try some of the alterations I have read about on this forum.

I will also give up on expecting the "off and on response" thing, but for me, the involuntary clenching doesn't seem to be associated with orgasm. Are the spasms themselves the orgasms? I put in my Helix yesterday and was having spasms within 1 minute. I'm at a point now where even erotic thoughts will elicit anal spasms. I can't be having orgasms just from thinking about sex (imagine that!) I suppose I should consider myself lucky, but the sensation isn't there. I know this illusive prostate orgasm isn't supposed to be anything like a genital orgasm but anything even close to a mind blowing sensation or involuntary (non-anal) body spasms seem a million miles away from the very low-level sensations I have experienced.

I wonder now if I just have a non-responsive prostate because when I have touched it with my finger I don't get much out of that either and I'm left wondering what all the fuss is about. I haven't lost faith in the Aneros products, they certainly are working for alot of people. I guess I'll keep trying. I wish I knew if I was supposed to be totally passive or work out some sort of protocol.


   
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If it does sit higher up, it shouldn't be by much. Not enough that an aneros can't reach it. If you can reach with your own finger, try probing around. You should feel a bulb-shape just past the sphincter. If you can touch it with your finger, your model of aneros can definitely reach it. And if it's getting sucked in all the way, even more so.

Try a different position, like curled up on your knees with your butt up in the air, like you were getting an exam (Position II in the picture below). That oughta bring the gland right out to the front row.

As I said above, I will give up worrying about a different model. If my sphincter is spasming all-over-the-place as it usually is, then surely something is happening. I guess I have been thinking that it's spasming but not massaging, but in reality its probably spasming BECAUSE it's massaging. I will try these other positions you suggested, not so much because it isn't massaging, but because something may just work better this way. It's all SO MYSTERIOUS.

Thank you again.


   
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my personal experience is that my first model was the Progasm and it didn't work that great for me so I eventually tried the MGX any my sessions took off and I learned that smaller models worked better for me. So maybe you need a bigger one?


   
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I'm not sure what you mean by "technique", but I hope it does not mean that you are trying too hard to achieve results by overuse of kegel contractions. For me, less is definitely more. I simply lie on my side and insert my helix as recommended. And after that I stay in that position and do virtually nothing but let my body do the work and bring the sensations to me. I think that mental concentration is very important and can help to increase the intensity of the pleasure; another trick is to visualise the Helix moving against the prostate with either a circular or side-to-side motion. This can often be quite stimulating. Also, once the contractions start I think it is important just to let go and relax into them; I usually find that doing this increases their intensity.

Clearly you must be doing something right as otherwise you would not be experiencing these involuntary "spasms". The problem seems to be that in your case they are not linked to any pleasurable sensations. I can only hope that you manage to find a solution, which may simply be a matter of finding the position that suits you best.


   
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