Rewiring slow due to masturbation habits???

@aneros_user113188 I understand your dilema. A while ago, I substituted masturbation with edging sessions and it works for me. It takes a while to get the hang of it but it pays off. As a result, I get more energy and as a bonus, I enjoy more orgasm (without ejaculation). Also, my Aneros sessions are better and so are my A-less sessions. Good luck!

I used to have a strong urge to cum right after a session or even during one. I just forced myself into the habit of not doing that.
If you plan your sessions late at night you might be so tired that once you cleaned up, going to bed feels like a better idea. During the day it will take some willpower until it becomes the new normal.

I think that once your reach a certain point, you will have more sessions where you don't feel like masturbating because you are already satisfied and done. For me, this doesn't happen all the time, but a lot more than it used to.
I also notice a change when I masturbate now. When I do it during or immediately after it will take me forever to cum. My dick feels a lot more sensitive because of the session but it won't go over the orgasm point easily; I actually have to put quite a lot of work into it. If I wait a while and then masturbate I will cum quicker if I want to. It feels a lot nicer and I also feel like I have way more control in hovering close to the point of orgasm.

My guess is that the brain connects everything that feels 'sexual' to the penis because that is what it's used to. The same goes for ejaculation: it's expected because it's the normal way to end the party. We humans are creature's of habit but are also able to break them or form new ones.
What @GGringo write's make's sense to me because you take the expected ejaculation out of the equation.
How often you ejaculate is up to you I think. I personally lose my libido if I abstain for too long (over a week or so) so I choose to do it every couple of days (3,4), and rarely during a session or right after.

@Mitaru well written and right to the point. It took me a while to be able to seperate ejaculation from orgasm. I crave orgasm, not ejaculation. In fact, ejaculation tends to drain me of energy for days so I avoid it. Being in my early 60s, I don't need to ejaculate as much.

I was actually really into edging years before I even heard of an Aneros.
I had this thing called a Tenga Flip Hole. I loved it so much that I didn't want to cum because then I would have to stop.
After a couple of months, I would do it for hours and got quite good at hovering close to the point of ejaculation. Then I would almost drop over it and found out that I could feel waves of energy and pleasure going through my body that would build up in intensity. It felt like I was going straight through orgasm and had discovered some secret. I didn't identify those as P-waves or whatever you want to call it because I had simply never heard of them. I was just sitting in my chair feeling awesome, and did so for years.

I really think edging is helpfull for expending your orgasmic horizon. Not just to teach yourself not to ejaculate but also to put some effort and time into your masturbation and to look for, or focus on sensations. Edging requires a lot of focus and concentration.
And this is all just penis-centric. There is a whole lot more that you can do to teach yourself.

I think I will try edging a lot more without going to completion and ejaculating. I'm guessing once rewiring is complete and you start having super o's and dry o's consistently the urge to masturbate to ejaculation will lessen quite a bit.

@aneros_user113188 my urge to masturbate and ejaculate was lessened a while ago and I'm still seeking my first Super-O so the two are not related. The urge goes away as you progress in your edging sessions. I engaged in 2 edging sessions thismorning and climaxed 6 to 7 times all without ejaculation. It leaves my penis tingling for hours.
What does not go away however is the sex drive (a form of horniness) as it does with refractory periods. This benefits my Aless sessions which are multiple per day.

Ggringo- that is good to know. I'm was hoping that was the case because the urges to cum sometimes are overwhelming after an aneros session. The rewiring channels those urges to cumming with your prostate eventually I think

I think I will try edging a lot more without going to completion and ejaculating. I'm guessing once rewiring is complete and you start having super o's and dry o's consistently the urge to masturbate to ejaculation will lessen quite a bit.

Maybe im not uderstanding edging as such but ive never been able to 'edge' that leads to climzx without ejacualtion. If i do this now, after rewiring, i get to the point of climax but never into anything that is classed as 'orgasm', just frustratingly close....

I don't like to masturbate after a session because my goals for using Aneros include generating sexual energies that I can channel after the session for things like Aless, sex with my wife and other non-sexual daily activities that benefit from the stored energy. Like others have pointed out, ejaculation saps this reservoir of energy and at my age (66) it takes a week or more to replace it. I'm trying to limit my ejaculations to 2-3 a month.

I think I'm missing several people's points here: are you all saying that your goal is to not masturbate, masturbate as much, or ejaculate often? Do you think your Aneros sessions will be better and bigger/stronger because you're abstaining from ejaculation?

I understand the energy thing with men here over 60, I'm 40 now but I know what y'all are talking about. But I always always end a session with a nice slow coaxing of my cock to get it rock hard, while a toy is in me, and then slowly masturbate and build up the most ginormous orgasm/ejaculation I can possibly have! It is extremely long lasting as the pulses make the aneros autofuck the shit out of me and getting from up top and down below all at the same time is just incredible. It is utterly satisfying on dozens of levels. I have long sessions, dozens of dry-Os and probably 1 to 3 huge super-Os on an average session over the course of 45 minutes to an hour fifteen minutes. By the time my session is "done" I can't have anymore prostate orgasms, but I just gotta have a super-T to wrap it all up. Day or night, it's fascinating.

Have anyone posting in this thread tried to orgasm/ejaculate with aneros in you?

@techpump ejaculation is for procreation and it is taxing energy from your body. Each ejaculation produces from 50m to 500m (that's millions!) bits of sperm and to manufacture such a production does cost energy, hence the need for a refractory period. Now, if you could separate orgasm from ejaculation and obtain higher sensation in your orgasms, have multiple orgasm (without ejaculation) per session and all this without a refractory period, would you sign up?

I worked on that and am well on my way. Reading the book 'The Multi-Orgasmic Man' (available in free PDF on line) explains the theory based on famous Taoist's opinions really lays out the theory. You may be in your 40s and I'm in my 60s but there is no difference in measuring levels of pleasures between any of us. Yardsticks for measuring such phenomena have not been invented yet.

Don't worry, I like a good wack job on occasion and have not given up on that but is is not as often as it used to be; nothing to do with age either.

Life is wonderful

I just feel better connected to my body and energy if I ejaculate less. Multiple ejaculations a day will just zap me too much(old routine). I prefer to go a couple of days without(I'm 33), and I do think that it helps for better sessions and less shitty ones.

I honestly don't feel like ejaculating after a good session most of the time. Whether this is conditioning or just a side-effect of having nicer sessions, I don't know. I also enjoy how I feel post orgasm and sometimes don't even want to be brought up again.

Even if you don't care at all about the energy conserving aspects. I would still say, that to get rid of the reflex/pattern, that you need to ejaculate after everything, is quite helpful. It has been for me. If you enjoy ejaculating, I see no reason why it has to disappear from the repertoire entirely though.

@techpump
Ejaculating with the Aneros is nice and you cum pretty hard. It's also gone pretty quick. I sometimes like to take my hand off, just at the point of orgasm (ruin it) to prolong it; where it dribbles out slowly and keeps on going for quite a while. It's nice, don't me wrong, but at least in my case, not spectacular enough to warrant the downsides of making it a habit. Not as an every day thing.

Abstaining can be temporary I think, til you have that 'need' out of your system. If everything works for you there might be no reason to try; you seem to be happy where you are.​​​​​​​ Just... imagine the volume of your load after you abstained for a few days.

Oh guys, believe me I know the wonders of abstaining!! Last night I finally got to cum/orgasm/ejaculate after a full 5 day break, and it was very awesome 🙂 From September to May recently I had the opportunity to take breaks between 7-11 days pretty consistently due not to purposefully doing it but because I couldn't cum where I was staying (no privacy, etc.). I loved all of that so much. I can cum 3-5 times a day and it gets better each time, but I also cannot do that everyday and don't want to. I haven't done that, actually, in over a year.

I have lots and lots of dry, prostate-focused, hands-free orgasms. With aneros or like devices, or dildos, etc., I can have literally as many orgasms as I want. Sometimes semen/seminal/prostate fluid leaks out a little bit, but really not until about 10+ minutes have passed and after I've had at least 5-10 good Os. I can milk a lot out of myself if I use a dildo, but when that happens I don't orgasm, it just comes out from the manual stimulation.

I tried all those MMO techniques you read about, like squeezing/clenching down on your PC muscles at the point of no return, but I was never able to make anything happen from that, and believe me I practiced and tried a LOT. Both alone and with my wife, masturbation, blow jobs, hand jobs, full on sex, etc. you name it. Some people's pipes can allow for that, mine don't. But with prostate stimulation, I'm an orgasm freak! I once tried my best to keep count during a 45 minute session using a hand clicker thing and when I was done I had logged 55 clicks, each was a for real orgasm! It was insane, but 'dozens' is the way I keep count now, they happen and I can't force them or make them start/stop.

Ejaculating has never really drained energy from me, ever. My wife and I can fuck for a long time and I'm very physically exhausted afterwards, but I get up and get a snack or whatever. My wife, on the other hand, cannot do anything she is the one who gets drained! She cums lots and lots of times and it wears her out. We're the opposite in regards to the "standard roles" of male/female sex lives: I, the guy, don't pass out from cumming and she does! Cuddling isn't worth it, because she passes out 🙁 But ejaculating doesn't have it's energy-drain effect on me, even if I spend an hour and a half masturbating and unloading a torrent of jizz.

@Mitaru I don't use an aneros assist to ejaculate that often, either. That's my most draining kind of ejaculation and I do lose energy from that but usually within 20 minutes I'm back to whatever normally. Sometimes I have a prostate session and don't finish traditionally and instead save it up for later that day or night, THAT is really fun to do!