relaxing through involuntary contractions/spasms

During involuntary/spasm, I feel like small jerks of my body. The same type that you would feel if you awake from a dream. I try to relax into them but other times, it feels like forcing myself to relax interrupts the spasms. I seem to continue to spasm if I don't consciously tell myself to relax and just let my body jerk about.

That's good that you unlocked the Super-O achievement. I look forward to mine. I'm not an expert but it seems like when you get your first one, it should be easier and easier to access it again. Do you think you are overthinking and it blocks progression?

I thought it would be easier afterwards as well. I almost expected it to happen, which was a big mistake. Yes, I think I am overthinking things, even though I am trying not to.

I think the involuntary contractions/spasm are distracting my attention. Yes, for me as well, forcing myself to relax my anal/pc muscles seems to interrupt the process. I think I need to relax on a mental level, just as much on a physical level, but that's easier said than done(especially relaxing mentally).

I think I need to relax on a mental level, just as much on a physical level, but that's easier said than done(especially relaxing mentally).

The word you are searching for is TRANCE. Just learned about this recently. IMHO it perfectly puts together what was recommended in this forum in the last years in a complete concept. I wrote it out in another thread already, so here is a bit of copy-n-paste:

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Does anyone have any tips for just letting go?

Understanding this took me a while, but I came up with a simple explanation just recently which makes a lot of sense imho. What you need to let go is fall into TRANCE. Unfortunately this is an overloaded term. What I mean is a certain working-state of your brain - the alpha waves. You'll find a good explanations when you read about hypnosis but I'll give you a short briefing: It's the state where your mind and body are relaxed and your mind starts to wander - not completely shut down but in the background, silently observing. It's a very normal state you experience multiple times a day: when you fall asleep and you slip into the REM-phase, when you drive a car and become suddenly aware that you have no memory of the last 10 minutes although you drove (and are still on the road w/o an accident), when you daydream.... Your brain activity is reduced to form of reduced-capability-auto-pilot: a lot of your inbuild filters shut off, so decisionmaking gets harder and slower and more gut instinct-wise. In contrast: normal brain activity is in the beta-wave spectrum - your subconciousness does a lot of filtering so your conciousness isn't bothered too much and can make the important decisions.

There are some common tools to fall into trance, which were discussed here in the forum over time, but were never put into context. They are: hypnosis, bineraul beats and meditation. Try them out and see what works best for you. You don't have to rely on those tools, but just make the experience what trance is like and how you get there.

So far I've never been able to orgasm at all from the aneros, and although I feel like I'm right there, it seems as if something is missing.

Yep, been there. Don't dig into this feeling that something is missing. Let go. Let go of expectations what might be or what you aim for to build up. Focus on what is, and maybe you'll recognize that your were orgasming already w/o noticing. You are used to orgasms with a peak, so you wait for something like this, that's the pitfall. Orgasm is a sum of a lot of things, and anerosing means to assemble the parts in new way. Stop comparing and waiting for something you already know. What you are about to feel is something completely different. There is a reason why tantrists/taoists and such saw this stuff as a tool for enlightenment - because it feels just as spiritual as it feels sexual.

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Cheers, Unfug

I think there's a lot to be said for a certain level of boredom with what's happening. It's so hard to feel something new or tantalizing without changing gears in the process. You were doing something that was working - but it caused a feeling that broke what ever magic was happening before. Being excited about the next level, or "wanting more" tends to do that. It's like we engage some kind of goal-seeking behavior that perks-up when we notice progress in that direction. My best sessions came about by not caring on some level... being lost in the moment, and "at one" with the feelings... leaving my brain and becoming sensation. Totally agree with Unfug about the trace nature of it. I'm at a point where I don't know how I got there, but I know that's where I've been.

Guys who have extensive training or experience with Tantra or a variety of Martial Arts forms enter the Aneros journey with a 'leg up' on the game and fall into orgasmic states with less tension or stress. A good part of this seems to relate to having a mental vocabulary that includes learned energy moves, mental focus and physical kinesthetics.

Several years ago a new member noted that most early-journey issues rise out of a 'pre-lingual' situation. Once one gain the ability to describe the view, it becomes easier to 'let go.'

It's true...it's very hard to enjoy your sensations and still be relaxed at the same time. The natural response is to try and do something that will make it feel even better, like we've all been doing for years...stroking it faster. The trick I have found is to find a way to almost detach yourself. Let your body do what it wants and take on the roll as almost an observer, with the benefit of feeling the resulting sensations. Concentrate on the sensations that your body is giving you instead of trying to guide your body. That way, yes you can almost become one with the pleasure in a somewhat trance like state without worrying about where the feelings are coming from. Does that make any sense at all? :rolleyes: