Hello everyone! I'm writing here in hope that someone who has been through the same PMO addiction I've experienced can help me with some advice regarding re-sensitization (again responding normally to natural and normal, more subtle stimuli).
My biggest problem is that I can't get aroused properly without fantasizing and I don't want to use porn and masturbate anymore in the near future either. I've read that a lot of people use visual and audio porn to get aroused, but I'm interested in how can I stimulate myself sexually without any kind of erotic.
I just got my aneros helix syn three days ago and already had few sessions with pleasant sensations. And then I fell into the trap. I started watching porn because I wanted to get properly aroused for the session (as advised in the wiki) and ended up masturbating because I was curious how it would feel to have and orgasm with the aneros inside. After that I realized that I really need to rewire not only my self-pleasure habits (from penile to prostate stimulation) but also my behavior regarding arousal.
If anyone can share personal stories, techniques, meditation techniques, oriental practices that could help me with my arousal problem and detaching the idea of arousal from porn and rewiring it with something else that is not erotic material, I'd appreciate it very much!
I use various podcasts and ASMR to build an erotic construct in my mind before a session this helps me to fantasize during the session to stimulate mental arousal. I also use nipple and testicle touching to build the fire! Hope this helps!
Did you read "rewiring" by Neros? https://community.aneros.com/community/for...-how-to-rewire
I read his post before my first Aneros even arrived. I think that's why was able to get it going real good right off the bat.
I have this issue too, and its a frustration. I did ask here about supplements that helpw ith arousal such as Saw Palmetto and someone suggested pomegranite which is supposed to work but hey who knows.
Weed worked for me once, had 3 super o's using it, never had them really since.
I find the KSMO and anything audio really, really doenst work at all. Fantasising doesnt work either at all.
When ive got orgasms happening through ALESS, its all i need to continue on, they are in themselves arousing, but its hard getting to that level sometimes!
@abstractgreen, to try to give you appropiate advice it would be helpful to know a bit more about your life situation. Don't know how old you are, but after all it seems that your frequency of semen release might cause, that you still are coping with your refractory period when already urging for another session. My personal milestone with this issue has been my 40-days-semen-retention-challenge I coped with. It affected everything, especially my attitudes towards masturbating and porn, but first and formost towards ejaculation.
Although you stated, you wouldn't want to masturbate anymore, it perhaps might be a good idea to discover masturbation in a new much more subtle manner as I recently described in @goldenboy's thread about Frequency and Duration of Edging/Surfing Sessions?. It's called multiple ridged band stimulation and revealed a fully new perception of my penis. The only snag is you need to have retained your foreskin or at least a remnant of it.
Good vibes to you, Mart
@Jaxsun Audio stimulation doesn't work for me, it is quite distracting and kinda corny for my taste. I really enjoy nipple stimulation, but I believe it's more of a shortcut for the sensation you should have through focus and patience. It also doesn't lead to orgasm and at a point I reach a plateau and I lose all sensation, especially the more subtle prostate sensations. @Wedgewood I've read that right now. I believe it could help, I just need to learn to be more patient and less thirsty for a lot more in very little time... I believe it has to do with overcoming desire. Right now I try to meditate (I just empty my mind) and go as far away from stimuli as often as I can (usually all kinds of information, be it the internet, videos, facebook, etc.) I believe that helps with discipline. And I also have to rethink my concept of arousal... For that I believe I need a leap of sorts, a leap that would throw me into an experience that would help me understand a more subtle and rewarding sexual tension. @The_Fury Unfortunately, I don't really have the means of procuring Saw Palmetto in my country and ordering it from abroad can be too much hassle. Maybe sometime I will try it, when I'll have a place of my own, thanks for reminding me of it! And I should really try weed then, if you say it worked for you. Right now I try to reduce consumption because it affects my memory and concentration, but once a month won't hurt, I suppose. @SOwithoutAneros I'm 22, no known health problems. I tried masturbating like that and I can hardly feel a thing... But I believe it's because of the same reason I quit PMO. Maybe after a month I'll be able to do that also. Or maybe earlier. I try to invest as little time as possible in masturbation, except the time I invest in the aneros sessions. How long did it take you to reach an orgasm through frem stimulation? And how often and for how long should I practice?
Thank you all for your answers and support. I hope I'll manage somehow. It was really helpful!
@abstractgreen, thanks for your frankness, 22, that's quite young, I'm three decades older. You wrote, you couldn't feel anything. I'm unsure which technique you tried and mean.
First I'm referring to the multiple ridged band technique, massaging the area of the seam between foreskin and shaft. The first time I didn't feel much either. Then I noticed, that I had to slow down my motions and to reduce the pressure of my fingers. The more subtle I worked on the area the more I got aroused. I think it has been my third or fourth session that has been finally ending with an awesome ejaculation. It's a very subtle technique but nevertheless I could reproduce that happy ending again in the very next session.
Perhaps the other technique helps you better to discover the sensitivity of your frenulum. I wasn't able to ejaculate practicing the technique of ever so gently grabbing and holding a little part of your frenulum, but it always get's me hard in no time. Referring to your words
My biggest problem is that I can't get aroused properly without fantasizing
I therefore would suggest to try that technique too to execute as gentle as even possible. A little too much pressure and it doesn't work for me either.
Now I can only hold my foreskin without any motion and get a hard on in less than 90 seconds and first little involuntaries already after 30 to 40 seconds. I just made a test to prove it, starting with an arousal level at zero, pulling my member out and grabbing and holding my frenulum.
I only would try it for some few minutes perhaps a couple of times a day. Remember, my suggestion wasn't to ejaculate this way. To the contrary I only want to help you to get aroused without porn or fantasizing. For me the simple, very gentle touch already works.
The funny thing is, being as young as you are means to still have all the time of your life, nevertheless the younger you are the bigger is your impatience. Asking the dictionary I just found the quote
A watched pot never boils.
why I want to add that when holding my frenulum as described above I even haven' to focus on it, the more I ignore it the better it works for me, because then the gentle stimulation first arouses my prostate from where my penis later gets tingling vibes.
I wish you all the best and the patience you need to discover all these wonderful sensations. A man born 84 naming himself VoyeurOfBliss is proving that all this too works for younger guys. Doubt whether one should call his videos porn or better artful and most erotic sexual education film about the art of penis pleasing, but after all it's surely NSFW.
Please keep us posted.
Best vibes, Mart
@SOwithoutAneros Bro, your description of gentle frenulum play has catapulted me to a new level in orgasmic pleasure. Thanks for sharing the minute details.
You are to be applauded as you really are a detail guy and your taking the time to share your pleasures and delights here on these boards. A while back when I was unfamiliar with your postings, I started a thread asking guys for more details and "how to's" in this business. Your words to me were appropriate as I had not studied your excellent posts prior to posting that thread. You really really are a detail guy. I just wonder what other tips you can give us guys for greater self pleasuring.
@SOwithoutAneros, Mart: It appears that @abstractgreen and myself are alike in that we are both recovering porn addicts. For me, my label and consumption of porn can be compared to what AA calls a Periodic Alcoholic. In my porn usage, that was me........a periodic binger on porn..........but now in recovery.
Your reference to the 84 year old guy, VoyeurOfBlis, takes one to a porn site, that I knew I had to quickly click out of.
With your great attention to detail, would it be too much to ask you to reproduce in print here what this elderly man is doing to provide himself (or others?) with "the most erotic sexual education film(s) about the art of penis pleasing........."
There is no rush on my request and I know it is a big one. I just know that having read many of your posts, you could do these instructions exquisitely in print for oddballs like us men who are recovering from porn addiction.
Thanks Mart.
@Turnrow, don't be afraid of new levels in orgasmic pleasure and let us all "boldly go where no one has gone before (absolutely SFW!)"!
Typing these words indeed puts a content smile on my face, because at the beginning of my journey, I really had to sooth my frightened soul with "I won't do myself no harm, I can let go." And still it seems, like the best is yet to come. Cheers! Mart
Referring to your request, I can say in a nutshell, that his art is to reduce his self love to what film makers call "bullet time", meaning instead of heavy stroking only slow motions and loveful caressing of his member and his whole - always fully naked and shaved - body. For example this guy puts his hand into a glass of water and pours some water drops on his penis, then lets his wet finger carress his shaft ever so softly. He is touching his member like a breakable gift he could loose if he would not take enough care. And he is patiently teasing even his flaccid member without any rush instead playfully dealing with a little drop of precum that just appeared on his glans. He uses a lot of lube and ever so gentle slow strokes and shows with dual camera from different sights every little detail to let you discover the slightest muscle contraction of his pelvic muscles or the erection becoming a little bit harder and so on.
As each of his videos lasts for half an hour or longer I must deny your request. Instead I'd encourage you to send your forefinger or any other of your fingers on your own journey, start at your forehead, go down slowly across your eyebrows, your nose, discover the sensitivity of the line between your lips and your facial skin, there is so much to discover. Did you recently suck your thumb? Do you know how it feels back in your throat at your palate, did you try to touch your gum above the inner side of your incisor teeth with your tongue? Did you lately stroke your palms either way with the fingers of the other hand?
Trying all this by yourself is much better than only reading about it. Admittedly you bring my own porn addiction home to me, when reviewing my own porn consumption of the last weeks. Sorry bro'! Never mind!