Quick and Dirty Path to the Super-O

Great post. Full of really good advice. I find the
section on the muscle exercises to be very
informative. Those exercises are something
I can do almost any where which is great.
I think to start this process I will try to contract
the different muscles while taking a leak to provide
myself with good feedback as to whether I'm
doing it right. I guess I'll be drinking a lot of
water from now on. Lol!

You should not be doing kegel exercises while urinating. Stopping urination is only for those unfamiliar with kegels so that they can more easily locate their pc muscles.

Hi guys Ive not yet been an Aneros user for more than a month, I wanted to post a reply to this thread as its been the single most helpful post on these boards. For years Ive been doing Kegel exercises so I have a pretty strong base there, but Id never thought about separating it from the sphincter muscles. Ive been able to separate these muscles fairly well. The sphincter muscles for me have been quite easy for me to separate from the PC group, but PC contractions almost always involve some sphincter movement although with really light contractions of the PC there is very little sphincter movement involved. Ive been doing these back and forth contractions in the car while at work sometimes and have had some great involuntary spasms while doing those exercises. My last session was my best by far I had spasms that started as anal and then rolled into my penis as I rolled the sphincter contractions into strong PC contractions. The feelings that followed teetering on the brink of orgasm lasted for I dont know how long but were just as appealing to me as any traditional penile orgasm. I recently received my progasm and helix models (Ive been using the MGX) in the mail and I cant wait to try them (on my resting period). Anyways Thanks Cave for this most awesome post!

Cave of Mystery, love your post! Strongone

Outstanding entry!!!!! Very methodical and thorough. The only thing I could add is that we are all different and our bodies respond differently. That means that you have to experiment. The advice that I recieved here was fantastic but it was only part of the solution. The other part of the solution to achieve super o's (for my body) I discovered myself thru experimentation. What worked for me may not work for you, you have to discover your own path.

The two things that did it for me were my nipples and frenulum. The more sensitized to my body I became and closer to getting rewired the more sensitive my nipples became. Teasing them intermittantly and with a very light touch sent zings straight to my prostate; the tingling spasm of pleasure was amazing. The other thing is pressure on my frenulum, the cleft under my cockhead produces immediate pleasure and orgasmic spasms. I read that frenuli are sensitive more to pressure and heat than friction. So I laid flat on the bed and pressed my cockhead gently against the mattress; the softer the mattress the better. My wifes ass cleft is even more amazing for producing results for me.

The point is conventional advice says don't touch your penis. For me touching my penis is what I have to do to get there. I discovered that on my own.

bigguy

I've been trying to memorize what you've said.
I've had two super 'o's so to speak.
Yes it's just rhythm, but looking at a screen or indeed a print out when your doing sorta
intimate things to yourself can sorta be a let down or a damp squib.
Hopefully i'll be lauding you later cave of mystery...
You certainly put some time and thought into your post.
Thank you.
Mick

I've been trying to memorize what you've said.
I've had two super 'o's so to speak.
Yes it's just rhythm, but looking at a screen or indeed a print out when your doing sorta
intimate things to yourself can sorta be a let down or a damp squib.
Hopefully i'll be lauding you later cave of mystery...
You certainly put some time and thought into your post.
Thank you.
Mick

i'm wondering why this hasn't been made a Sticky yet in the forum.......I always refer back to this thread because it's the best one i've ever read....period!!!!

Hi Waverider, you mention in this post that you tried all sorts of things including weed... I'm curious, did you find that helped or made a difference? I find you need to be in a sort of meditative state and I'm thinking weed might help with that. Probably not worth doing everytime, but I was planning to give it a go soon.

It takes a little practice, but if you are having trouble isolating them, then try this. Do a full anal contraction, and while holding it, see if you can send signals to contract your PC muscle with very light contractions in rapid succession. The only purpose here is to learn the different sensations each muscle group has. As you do your light PC contractions back off the anal contraction. After awhile you should be able to differentiate between the two, and control them independantly. But the best part is you can practice this skill anytime, anywhere.
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Sorry but this post doesn't help any further if you don't know what the difference between an "anal contraction" and a "PC contraction" is. Explain please?

IDK, perhaps I subconsciously know the difference because I seemed to be experiencing what you were describing with the muscle fatigue and then the involuntaries around the 45 minute mark, but guess I didn't reach a Super-O because I was trying to help in along with more and more squeezes as opposed to "riding it out" and this probably hindered. But then again we're talking about my first 2 or 3 times and from the sounds of it I had a lot greater success then most do starting out, lol. But now for some reason in subsequent sessions I can't seem to acheive the flutters and shakes again or get the toy moving on it's own...maybe I'm just trying too hard or I'm not able to consciously acheive this "tug o war" between the 2 types of contractions? So...could you please explain the difference more clearly? Thanks.

Wow, I don't know how I missed this post back when it was originally made. Beautiful! Agree with others here that it would be nice to add this to the sticky's or an easier spot to find considering it seems to be a very useful guide.

Sensitive Guy-
I'm not sure what you mean here

Sorry but this post doesn't help any further if you don't know what the difference between an "anal contraction" and a "PC contraction" is. Explain please?

Not sure if you read the whole thread but there's several posts there that get into great detail about how to locate and learn to separate these different muscles. The pc contraction is the one that you would use to stop the flow of urine in mid stream while the anal contraction is the one you would use to hold in a fart or BM

Billy11,

FYI, As previously noted, I did add 'CaveOfMystery's post to my posting list in the "Cherry Picks" Community Group. That group was created for the purpose of referencing posts such as this, which don't really merit Sticky thread status yet deserve to be made readily available to the community without becoming lost or buried in the thousands of posts in existence here.

You are welcome to join the group and add your suggestions for meritorious posts/threads.

Rumel

I saw in your post earlier in this thread that you had added it to the Cherry Picks page. But for me at least when I go to the forum home page I would have no idea where to go to find the Cherry Picks unless somehow told me that it was in the groups section and even then you've got some searching to do to find it. I feel especially for someone that is newer to the forum that it's difficult to find these areas on the forum. Since the Cherry Picks group is consisted of nothing but the most helpful well written threads on the forum, I feel it would be much easier to locate if instead it was maybe a sticky in itself called "Cherry Picks. At least then it would be at the very top of a forum page that everybody who visits the forum would see right off the bat.

Sensitive Guy-
I'm not sure what you mean here

Not sure if you read the whole thread but there's several posts there that get into great detail about how to locate and learn to separate these different muscles. The pc contraction is the one that you would use to stop the flow of urine in mid stream while the anal contraction is the one you would use to hold in a fart or BM

Hmm, to me these seem to be the same muscles...

Hmm, to me these seem to be the same muscles...

Try this:

Good general reference and roadmap to where the sun seldom shines: -- Perineum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia --

PC muscle: -- Pubococcygeus muscle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- (the first one on your list to isolate on and strengthen...wife or girlfriend can help -- preferably a woman who's delivered at least one baby -- they know the Kegel drill and can coach you.)

Anal sphincter: -- Sphincter ani externus muscle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- (this is where you start the play that will help you isolate on either the sphincter or the PC)

Cremaster: -- Cremaster muscle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- (tuck this one away for future work -- re-learn to bounce your balls)

Try this:

PC muscle: -- Pubococcygeus muscle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- (the first one on your list to isolate on and strengthen...wife or girlfriend can help -- preferably a woman who's delivered at least one baby -- they know the Kegel drill and can coach you.)

I have no girlfriend, let alone wife, lol...but I do know which the PC muscle is and I've been doing kegel exercises off and on for the past few years now. It's the "anal contractions" that have got me confused...like to me it seems holding in a fart (as billy described) I use the same muscles as I do trying to stop the flow of urine, so idk...

I keep going back to the original post in this thread and love it! Just had to say it...

I have no girlfriend, let alone wife, lol...but I do know which the PC muscle is and I've been doing kegel exercises off and on for the past few years now. It's the "anal contractions" that have got me confused...like to me it seems holding in a fart (as billy described) I use the same muscles as I do trying to stop the flow of urine, so idk...

It's two different muscle. It really doesn't matter how to control it so long it works as you expect.

I'm glad this post helped so many. I had no idea it would have this much impact when I wrote it awhile back.

I wrote it mainly for the people who buy these plastic gems, use them once and say "It didn't do anything."

That's like going to the store and buying a box of cake mix, then putting it in the oven expecting a whole cake to appear.

You've got to finesse it, put in a little work, add some ingredients, etc.

Generally speaking it isn't an instant gratification kind of thing. Well, maybe it would be with the VIce, maybe I'll find that out someday, but as for the other models, take your time and enjoy.

I wanted to chime in on PC muscle / Kegel exercise. It really does help. I suspect this is why I got such nice initial progress compared to other people. And my recent findings suggest my sweet spot requires contractions at about 70-80% of capacity, which means I really need to work on my kegels daily to be able to sustain them for a hour.

I agree with all the previous posts, especially with the fact that this method definitely speeds up your progress with the Aneros. I got my MGX only about two weeks ago, and my initial results were interesting but nothing too major. I didn't mind this because I knew from reading various posts that it can take a while to begin to achieve the kind of pleasure that's been reported. I started the Quick 'n Dirty method last night and made what I feel is a notable leap ahead. I haven't yet reached the dry O stage, but with the right balance between kegel and anal contractions I get incredible pulsing and quivering that makes my legs and arms shudder. It feels like I'm right on the verge. As has been said, I need to work on strengthening these heretofore unused muscles so that I can last longer and eventually reach orgasm and beyond. Looking forward to it. Thank you for this invaluable advice.

Caves, sorry I've missed this post. I would have achieved the Super-O a little sooner:) I have gotten there though. i did try the legs "flat out" in shape of a V. Wow. It seems to re-set me into a new and more powerful wave. That was soooooo intense.

I've actually printed out this thread and put it in my nightstand drawer. LOL.

I'm kinda new to all this and I've been doing my research, but while going through the wiki, I noticed the link to this thread is broken, along with some others, just thought I'd let you know so you can fix it?

OK I don't know if I have the words to describe what the heck just happened, but using what I read here, SOMETHING did...

I just found my super O about 2 weeks ago with the "do nothing" method. However I've found that combining the two methods makes for acceleration of a session. I'll kick back and relax for about 15 minutes until I'm relaxed and then start to get some strong sensations...then slowly contact as you describe and it seems like the affects are stronger and last longer...going straight to this method doesn't feel as powerful and IMHO feels like I miss out on some of the benefits of the relaxation. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't use this method cause it works great...but the relaxation...almost meditation seems too make a difference to me. I think I've found a great middle ground of getting my mind in the right place...then with your advise bringing the body with me.

...IMHO feels like I miss out on some of the benefits of the relaxation. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't use this method cause it works great...but the relaxation...almost meditation seems too make a difference to me. I think I've found a great middle ground of getting my mind in the right place...then with your advise bringing the body with me.

Maybe that's why it's titled the Quick and Dirty Path...

I know...just stressing the importance of relaxation.

Once again the wiki links are hosed.

A very interesting and informative thread, I must say.

What do you mean that once again the wiki links are hosed, Nettles?

Thom/BigGlansDC

this thread is referenced in the wiki, and the link to it is now broken making it hard to find, no doubt from yet another site reformat.

@ nettles,

Thanks for pointing out the broken link, I've now corrected it but if you find others please let us ('B Mayfield', 'darwin' or myself) know about it so we can fix them.
Good Vibes to You !