Question for those who are able to practice semen retention

I have the same problem quite often, I know exactly how you feel. I quit sweating it when I do, as my T.Os are most enjoyable since I started aneros.I found the bigger the deal I make of it the harder it is to break the habit. Heres what worked for me, because I am weak. I did it gradually, I would get to the point where I thought I couldn't resist, then I would try as hard as I can to resist for another minute, then 3 minutes then 5 and so on, eventually it gets easier. I found out that its that extra few minutes that can change the direction of a session. I'm better now at ending a session without jerking. 

Posted by: @tbob

I have the same problem quite often, I know exactly how you feel. I quit sweating it when I do, as my T.Os are most enjoyable since I started aneros.I found the bigger the deal I make of it the harder it is to break the habit. Heres what worked for me, because I am weak. I did it gradually, I would get to the point where I thought I couldn't resist, then I would try as hard as I can to resist for another minute, then 3 minutes then 5 and so on, eventually it gets easier. I found out that its that extra few minutes that can change the direction of a session. I'm better now at ending a session without jerking. 

  

Thanks mate, I'm going to try your strategy as well.

Posted by: @pirontras

There always comes a time in my aneros session where I am just too horny not to touch my dick.

Chop your hands off,then have a session. Let us know how you get on 🙂

One way is to touch your dick, but treat it just as another erogenous zone without the goal of ejaculating. You need to keep focus on your prostate for this to work, and you might have to make the penis stimulation lighter and lighter to avoid ejaculating. It's quite a balancing act, but at least you're not wasting mental energy on fighting your penis-touching urges. 

Another thing is that I went trough a transition where porn stopped adding anything to my sessions or arousal in general, like my brain decided that it's just moving colors in a box, that arousal comes from within, and that pornography is just a distraction and keeps focus away from the pleasure.

As a long time porn user this was pretty disconcerting, "real" women are still arousing but I can't get the easy arousal from porn like I used to. Maybe you can ween yourself away form it, too ?

@zentai 

Posted by: @zentai

One way is to touch your dick, but treat it just as another erogenous zone without the goal of ejaculating. You need to keep focus on your prostate for this to work

My concern here is that his wiring isn’t advanced enough yet for penile stimulation,and i fear the urge to Jack off is impatience and trying to force something.

This is isn’t the first time pironatras has posted about this. IMO he’s caught in a cycle that he must break one way or the other,but it’ll take some discipline on his part.

@Pirontras,maybe set a more manageable target. Instead of no porn and no jacking off,how about you watch porn and ejaculate every other session. Over time you can porn and ejaculate every third session,then forth and so on.Or simply cut the ejaculation session by session and keep the porn.

When the urge to go for the cock hits is the time to refocus,block the cock and keep doing what you’re doing so you can ride on to PO. You won’t need to go harder,just keep the rhythm going.

Posted by: @helghast

My concern here is that his wiring isn’t advanced enough yet for penile stimulation,and i fear the urge to Jack off is impatience and trying to force something.

This is isn’t the first time pironatras has posted about this. IMO he’s caught in a cycle that he must break one way or the other,but it’ll take some discipline on his part.

Everyone has to see for themselves, I guess ? Light touching does not necessarily equals jerking off like a wild monkey, but I agree that one can lead to the other pretty quickly.

Hoping you can get a perfect run of rewiring from zero to Super-O is probably a myth, I don't think you can really do it without a bit of trial and error, mistakes will be made, and so on. A bit of dick touching is not the end of the world.

Posted by: @helghast

You won’t need to go harder,just keep the rhythm going.

Great advice ! 

Posted by: @pirontras

There always comes a time in my aneros session where I am just too horny not to touch my dick. Anyone else faced this problem and were able to solve it?

As @Helghast mentioned you are in a cyclic behavior pattern and every iteration serves to reinforce the habit. Conscious effort through force of will (self discipline) may be the only way to break out of the repetitive pattern. @Tbob's suggestion to retard your penile engagement is one way to start the break.  You need to actively choose an alternative path for 'rewiring' to occur. You could try using a numbing creme to make your penis less sensitive, thus discouraging its relevance to your arousal process. Another alternative is to use a chastity cage to prevent you from enjoying those penile sensations and thus focusing your attention on your prostate stimulation.

The pornography issue is an entirely different problem and that is going to take some personal psychological reflection to resolve. Whether you have a porn addiction or not you should probably take a look at some of the issues porn use induces at the website Your Brain On Porn for some help here. I would also like to direct you to the threads Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence/Semen Retention & 21 day challenge post.

Good Vibes to You!

@rumel I agree, especially with the suggestion about chastity cage use. I was in the same cycle of inpatience.  I'd  ride an Aneros, get frustrated that it wasn't happening, and I'd stroke my cock to get off. It took awhile, but after I started caging myself, it took the focus off my cock and I started to focus on what was happening in my anal passage and prostate. The anal / postate orgasams started to happen on a frequent basis. I'm rewired to the point that I  have difficulty getting off by merely stroking my cock. I need to have something in my ass to stimulate my anal passage and prostate before I can come. When I wear the cage it doesn't take long before the Aneros or butt plug start fire works in my backside, and all the while my cock is AWOL.

@zentai 

Posted by: @zentai

Hoping you can get a perfect run of rewiring from zero to Super-O is probably a myth, I don't think you can really do it without a bit of trial and error, mistakes will be made, and so on. A bit of dick touching is not the end of the world.

True,but he’s been trialling and erroring for a while with the same things. The dreaded cycle! 

@helghast Unfortunately I am in the same cycle and have luckily came across chastity. This has heightened my arousal levels every time I have to put it on a leave it in my partner's hands, but unfortunately they're not really into it. Less of a turn on, but it's still quite arousing.

I hope to use chastity to help with semen retention as well as I want to start a nice streak and see how the feelings in the prostate develop and become more sensitive. I feel like my sessions have been on and off. I haven't really gotten prostate orgasms or Super Os or anything substantial besides slight pleasure waves, and at times it feels like my prostate doesn't feel any sensations like it's become numb and other times it's on fire and begging to be played with. I see it as mostly dependent on arousal levels, but I also have a tendency to want to force something, based off old ejaculation pretenses of forcing the orgasm sometimes.

Any advice on letting go and getting out of these vicious cycles?

Posted by: @helghast

True,but he’s been trialling and erroring for a while with the same things. The dreaded cycle! 

Might be true, but sometimes it's not about changing what you're doing completely, if a guy is pretty close smaller changes can very well do it. Less wanking is probably not as good as absolutely zero wanking, but it could work anyway. You don't have to get it perfect every time, if there was no margin for error we would never get there.