I agree with Cockadoodle 100% (sticky please)
Alhough i am new to aneros (2 months) i am lucky to have had super o/dry orgasm's. Within my sessions i have had regular erections regardless of reaching orgasm or not, this must just be how my body is re-wiring or something.
I have read so much on the wiki & other members posts about not interacting with the penis, i have took this on board from the outset 100% & it is one of the absolute cornerstones in my journey to date.
Initially it is difficult to accept the penis not approach, but once the penny drops it pays dividends, that is not to say you can't finish off with a tug or sex with wife/partner (i occasionally do) as it is most gratifying. Personally i like to abstain for 4-5 days before a good session the anticipation can provide some surprisingly good results!
I find the wiki extremely informative & helpful, by the way.
If other people want to play with their dicks instead of concentrating on what the aneros is designed to achieve, then let them. I know which path i'd rather be taking.
I fully support your post & everything good you & others are trying to do for other members especially newbies like me.
Keep up the good work.
After 10 months of grinding I became fairly reproducibly able during the last few weeks to have wonderful orgasms (squirming, moaning, feels like I'm shooting hot semen everywhere but staying completely dry) and I believe it is due to taking an entirely "penis NOT" approach throughout the "rewiring" process. I'm straight, married, and have 3 to 5 relatively short (about half-hour or so) sessions a week, don't believe in porn, and never end with traditional orgasm. Last night after about the fourth orgasm during a typical session--though not as intense as some recently have been--I reached down and did a little thumb and two fingers penile stimulation just to where I felt a hot build-up, then stopped and went back to nipple stimulation and brought on another great dry orgasm, repeating this process 2 or 3 times (I'm a 3/4 to 4/4 erect guy during sessions--don't try to and don't try not to--just let the penis respond as it wants). Still, I did not "finish" with traditional ejaculation, just enjoyed the warm prostate glow from the dry orgasms as I removed my Eupho and went to sleep. Anybody else done this?
Hi, Jim, et.al. It's nice to see this piece get resurrected from time to time. Each time I read it, I'm completely in agreement with myself! HA
It's about 10:20 in the evening as I write this, and I'm taking a break from an extended Helix session. I may switch to my Progasm for one more "go" yet tonight. As many know from my other posts, I travel a bit so I'm in a nice high end motel tonight, perfectly peaceful, mellow and relaxed. I've had two Super O's this evening and I'm gonna go back for thirds when I finish this post.
I continue to be amazed by the Aneros experience. I'm still very much a proponent of the hands-off Aneros method. But as Slimjim as correctly stated, there's nothing wrong with giving yourself permission to follow whatever course brings you joy. My advice, originally, to change the paradigm, was mostly aimed at the guys who are trying to rewire. After one has accomplished said rewiring, I see no reason whatever to deny yourself a good "rub-up" erection or naturally occuring ones, too, as part of your Aneros practice. Gawd knows I do! Finish with a nice Super T from time to time, too. Absolutely great.
I am simply astounded by the way my body has developed its response to Aneros stimulation. I can use any model (ok, don't use my MGX any more) and reach Super O. I can have a terrific "buckingbronco" ride or a "calm seas" orgasm, whichever I choose simply by controlling my physical activity...anyone else there?
It's a wonder, a marvel and a gift from gawd, God or whatever spiritual deity you choose. I love it...I can't get enough of it. I'm addicted.
I admit it.
And I love you guys!
Cockadoodle
Agreed. Based upon my experiences thus far I strongly recommend a do-not-touch approach during the rewiring process. I was just surprised, now at the point of having fairly reproducible dry orgasms and having never touched myself before during sessions, that in this case as referenced, though I was expecting I'd "kill" the dry orgasms by doing so, a little bit of touching seemed to help bring on a few more. And yes, it is a marvel how fearfully and wonderfully our bodies are made.
I was wondering how things will eventually progress with this Aneros emasculation....
Already it seems my dick has shrunk like at least a cm. They say that happens defacto with old men. Coz their penis doesn't get used it shribbles up into a little appendage....So yeah, penis NOT.....BUT.....(seriously) But.....
will continued Aneros use make my Penis shrink and shribble up into a little clit like appendage?
My gawd, I hope not, Helixer. I have been "penis-conscious" all my life, from my very first erection...even to this day. And I have to say, that unless I'm entirely delusional, my erect penis is exactly the same now...maybe a bit thicker, come to think of it...as it's always been...and I'm 64 years old.
Maybe someone with more physiology experience can chime in, but I cannot imagine that Aneros use will affect the length of your dick.
Tally(wacker) ho!
Cockadoodle
Since I have been using Aneros for a little less than a year I have not noticed any shortening of my penis. In fact I am sure it is no shorter now than it ever was. I have noticed however, that it is noticeably thicker, which I find rather nice! I think though, that this may be because I still have regular sex with my wife...and I'm 71 years old!
I would agree with Cockadoodle that there couldn't surely be any effect on the length of one's penis caused by Aneros activity.
Pommie
Again, the premiss isn't does Aneros make your dick smaller? Coz obviously as Pommie stated at 71 he's still regularly fucking his wife(good on you mate!) BUT does penis INACTIVITY make your penis eventually shribble up into a little clitoris-like appendage?
IMO it can, so eventhough an Aneros orgasm is many times better than a traditional ejaculationary one, you should still keep your penis active, USE IT OR LOOSE IT(as they say), thus, Penis Not, bbbbbut.....you don't want your dick shrinking into a micropenis, a clit....perhaps this is how your body reacts to the taking on of the passive feminine role
Given the latest part of this thread's posts, I thought you'd all find this website of interest:
Normal Penis Size
Hope mine doesn't shrink, as I intend to use it for a long time yet! HA
TB
Thanks Cockadoddle,
A much appreciated lesson. Being a 'newbie', I will always remember these fine words.
It seems natural to want to get in a hurry. Thanks for bringing us back to earth.
LryDee
Awesome post.. 🙂
Some food for thought for couples 😉
http://www.aneros.com/forum/f5/place-discuss-achieving-super-o-couples-sex-15122/
Despite this thread(and my best intentions) there still appears to be a lot of misconception about what the Aneros is about
Fantastic thread! Really hits the nail on the head. Has given me an epiphany of epic proportions. Thanks so much cockadoodle for your invaluable insight into a very complex idea.
great thread good to remember this!
@Es0422 thanks for pointing out this thread. Very well written by cockadoodle. I was already on the right path. This has even further helped me.
great thread/post but there is one flaw that i can see or rather one thing you mention that i thought all men experience but it would appear, do not (except me)
When i use the device i do get erections, strong ones at that which feel very nice.
And there is the problem. They feel so nice that the penis takes over the show and stops concentration or focus upon the prostate altogether. One some occasions without any effort whatsoever i will cum, through my penis as a result of aneros use from having this super hard erection.
You have heard people whine about it not working and what not, but where are the men that experience this kind of bullshit and what can be done to stop it?
Also another thing i experience is that i feel nothing from sessions, however i feel LOTS after them, usually a day or two after. If i feel great things after a session (no matter how long it is afterward) i get the urge to add the device again to see if it does something but the device does nothing, and on most occasions STOPS the pleasurable feelings that started on there own.
Oh and another thing, in a session if i get an erection i get some feeling in the prostate, but not without. Again this steals the show away from the prostate area. Frustrating.
My device during sessions does not move the way others do, mine seems to be very rapid and quick and not slow like others, i feel nothing either way except when i sit on the device and move it forward, it feels great, but it feels dangerous to do this as its putting lots of pressure on things in a bad way.
Edit: a day after a particularly uneventful session i am sitting here experiencing unbelievable feeling in my prostate, not doing anything to encourage it, just sitting here doing nothing, no aneros in sight.
WHY doesn't this happen when in a session, WHY is it always after one?
Hi, guys, time for an update to this post/thread.
I've been using now for quite a few years. I must admit, I'm a hard-core, daily Aneros guy. I often go to sleep with it in, and I always enjoy my sessions, even if short. Sometimes a 15 minute session can be just gangbusters for me.
I still stand by everything I wrote. There is a new paradigm connected with the use of Aneros, especially if you're a new user. It just takes time. The comments I made regarding erection are still true, and there are times when I have great sessions (especially with Paradise set) when I just enjoy the hell out of the toy without the slightest erection.
HOWEVER, I do have to acknowledge that when I'm in a good session, I almost always get an erection, sometimes for long periods of time. I look forward to them, and consider it a sign that I'm making great prostate contact and that I'm really enjoying the session.
Unfortunately, @inhope is still getting past the erection-every-time barrier that some guys experience. This may or may not pass, but I also suggest that you work at slowing down your contractions so that the Aneros may move more slowly. Perhaps using a larger model can facilitate that, I'm not sure, but I know that I get a much smoother, richer and slower action with my Progasm than I do with my Eupho...maybe that's just me.
If you're experiencing too much stimulation and that results in an erection that "steals the show", perhaps taking the "do nothing" route may slow that down, but YMMV.
I just want to say that there is a patience factor here, gents, one that may take longer than we like. Patience to get to the point where you're getting good results every session, and patience to realize that there is massive satisfaction on the other side of that. I cannot begin to tell you the excellent and extremely joyous sensations I get from all of my Aneros models. Sometimes just lying there with one or another of them inserted can produce wave after wave of ecstatic pleasure that can last, literally, for hours, without a lot of bouncing around or frantic leg/body shaking.
Remember, Super O is a state of mind as well as a physical manifestation. How you experience Super O can be completely different from that of another guy...believe me when I say this. A Super O for me varies in intensity and in duration, but it's always great. And I get there more times than I don't.
So, bottom line: Patience and perseverance. That's it. Stick with it. Try differing positions. Try morning sessions (almost always best for me) if possible...you'll be astounded how much better your rested body responds vs late at night when you're weary.
Blessings, Dudes! I can only tell you that even though it's nice to have the penis participate, it's not about the penis, even still.
Cockadoodle
@Cockadoodle,Welcome Back!
As usual, you provide sound and very profound advice!
Thank you again.
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Still no sticky? Okay, Bump!
Thanks Cockadoodle, you just rescued yet another noob. I got my new toys just two days ago, read a page or two on the WIKI, then predictably proceeded to have at it under my old and horribly incorrect paradigm. You just saved me from suffering months, perhaps years, of frustration.
Yes, thanks for the bump. As a 1 week veteran I appreciate that outlook very much and will take heed of the advise.
No thunder and lightning yet but certainly some new and exciting feelings; looking forward to a great journey and I'm in no rush.
Welcome and enjoy!
TG
Hi, guys,
First time I've checked for months, and what do I see...Ha....glad it still offers advice for some.
I continue to enjoy my Aneros devices, but have really come to rely on my two small Paradise models for consistent, prolonged pleasure. After you all have tried working with Eupho or Helix or whatever, try smaller...you might be totally amazed what you find.
I don't recommend Paradise (at least not the two advanced models) until you're well into high pleasure with the larger prostate massagers, but if you are, you might give them a try. I highly discourage sleeping with larger Aneros models in place...puts too much pressure on the prostate as well as your urethra, and can lead to some unpleasant urinary problems. However, due to their size and shape, you might find sleeping with a Paradise a new ( and might I add exciting) experience. FWIW
That's about all I have right now. Hope you're all enjoying the coming of spring...we sure do need it here in the upper midwestern US...man it's been a brutal winter.
Blessings to all. Enjoy your toy!
Cockadoodle
Welcome back Sir!
Nice to know you are still around and enjoying the "small" pleasures!
I agree with you, the two smaller Peridise models are my staples these days, but it is fun to have a session with something larger, such a the Helix or MGX, just occasionally.
Even so, I can only sleep with the smallest Peridise for a couple of hours at a time, after that it always wakes me up, wanting to play! BTW, how often do you use the Peridise?
Guys, I decided to bump this thread to hopefully clarify some confusion about the admonitions to avoid penile stimulation. IMHO, the main point of 'Cockadoodle's thread is to get new users of Aneros devices to alter their thought paradigm to orgasmic pleasure, it is NOT an admonishment to forever forego penile stimulation in their life. 'DarkOrb's recent thread brought up the topic of using "edging" as a technique to increase arousal energy levels and it is an effective technique for doing so. However, for many men, the process can quite easily take them past the PONR and lead them into a Super-T which subsequently ends their session as the prolactin induced refractory period effectively vaporizes their arousal. While doing this once may not be problematic, repeated instances of Super-T's may be reprogramming a new users body into being rewired for that experience, thus making Super-O's more difficult to achieve in the future. I agree with 'BF Mayfield' and 'Unfug' in saying that early on in ones Aneros rewiring it is probably best to avoid Aneros use and penile edging UNTIL one has a well developed body knowledge of MMO experiences, including some Super-O's. Once one has rewired themselves sufficiently, then penile stimulation can safely be included back into the mix of arousal amplification tools. Good Vibes to You !
Hey @rumel,
thy for bumping this thread and relate it to the current thread of @DarkOrb. I'm not here for sooo long and it seems most subjects get talked over and over again because the old threads become forgotten constantly... 🙁
The sticky functionality doesn't seem to be a sufficient solution, since there are so many good threads that would eventually occupy the first 20 slots or so. So, my suggestion would be to create a new category in the sidebar named 'Must read' or 're-inventing the wheel' or 'best-of'... you get the idea.
Cheers, Unfug
Im really glad that the penis is involved and recognised as a necessity in some ways to generate response. Sadly for some of us it is the only way to do so, perhaps through a lack of constancy or perhaps a physical connection that should be there but isn't, or mental pathways not being formed enough/correctly.
Good to see.
Very well said.