Recently finished a few attempts at semen retention: 8 days, 4 days, 16 days, 13 days, and 35 days.
I learned a few things doing that:
- a little bit better control and understanding of moving energy away groin area during an orgasm
- better understanding of what parts of my cock trigger an ejaculation easily
In general, I didn't feel anything that would cause me to want to practice semen retention all the time.
I've noticed now that I ejaculated twice on Sunday and once on Monday that I have almost no sexual energy or desire. Usually, when I was ejaculating 1-3 times per week, within about a day I was all ready to go and horny again. It feels a lot less now.
Also - the last 10 days of the semen retention, like days 25-25, I was a lot less horny than I usually am. And during sex, erections would come and go a few times. When I was ejaculating 1-3 times per week, erections usually lasted the entire time during sex.
Anyways - I guess what I'm asking - is there an optimum ejaculation frequency for guys? Anyone else notice that if you don't ejaculate as frequently, your body gets used to the lower frequency and when you do ejaculate it takes longer to get horny again?
About half the time...I seem to have a normal refractory period. The other half...I seem to have an abnormal refractory period...lastin a week to 10 days even...no interest in sex or porn or even attractive women at the office...not sure if I consider that annoying or refreshing...seems like a little of both at times.
I'm at about 5 days now...and just starting to feel some level of desire.
For me it takes 4-5 days for normal desire/arousal reappear. I'm 67 so maybe its age related. I've gone as much as 12 days between ejaculations but needed release due to blue balls.
(Note: This was taken from a previous thread.)
You may wish to read this article What is the Ejaculation Frequency for Optimum Men's Health and Longevity?. The question about ejaculation frequency has been discussed in several other threads before, see prostate health and ejaculation frequency, How do you know when it is time to ejaculate? or Continence??? to name just a few.
There is evidence that regular ejaculations in ones youth may reduce the incidence of developing prostate cancer later in life. However, there doesn't seem to be any evidence showing ill effects for men who have traditionally been celibate (and by implication non-ejaculatory) such as priests and monks. It seems there are many other (more important) factors which affect a man's health (particularly his sexual health) such as diet and lifestyle rather than his ejaculation frequency. Practitioners of male chastity often cite a period of once per month for a chaste male to have an ejaculatory orgasm or bi-weekly "milkings" (with no orgasm) to maintain prostate health. While there is probably no real consensus on what constitutes "too long" a period between ejaculations perhaps we can look to the female menstrual cycle as a natural guideline of approximately 28 days. This would make sense from a biological point of view of having mature sperm ready to inseminate an ovulating female at the peak of her fertile cycle.
Studies have shown that immediately following ejaculation a man's testosterone level drops, there are also changes in levels of various other body hormones and neurotransmitters. These changes, while relatively minor compared to the immediate refractory period men experience, do take a period of time (approximately 7-10 days) to recover to homeostatic levels. This could indicate that too frequent ejaculations may be more debilitating than infrequent ejaculations, obviously age plays into this with the advantage going to youth. These scientific findings support the Taoist wisdom for men to control the frequency of their ejaculations. There are definite advantages to postponing traditional ejaculations. First, you will feel an overall sense of vitality due to increased levels of available testosterone. Secondly, once your hormone levels are at their optimum levels, your arousal potential is maximized and your ability to experience pleasure is also maximized. This was discussed in the thread Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence. IMHO, you can delay ejaculation as long as you desire (though I would recommend 'cleaning the pipes' at least monthly) and you can experience as many dry-O's & Super-O's as you have time to enjoy. Good Vibes to You !
I think there is an optimal frequency - but it is as individual as each and every man. Semen retention practiced in moderation is a good idea. Some will have the discipline to go for extended periods of time - great if you can do it. For the rest of us, ponder the following:
If you do it daily or more frequently, perhaps try to get it down to twice a week, and then maybe down to once a week. Start going from daily to every second day. Perhaps only climaxing on odd days. Then go for Tuesdays and Saturdays. Then, just Saturdays. You get the idea.
For those of you with a wife or regular sex partner and who are active, try Karezza of some sort. Make love without ejaculating. Maybe without even an orgasm. Your partner's orgasm - optional - discuss this with your partner. If say your wife enjoys sex to orgasm once a week, give her that - you don't necessarily have to climax yourself.
Consider milking rather than ejaculation. Once you master the fine art of milking, this releases fluid build-up without necessarily discharging sperm. Semen is composed of many substances, created by different glands. Perhaps all you need to to release what is made by your seminal vesicles.
I am on day 2 of semen retention and am new to the practice. Have been reading and paying attention to all of your informative posts and have been reading lots of the links. Spent a couple of rainy afternoons the last two days reading, watching videos and educating a bit on the subject.
Then, I open up this trunk in the house I'm watching and what do I find but the book; The Tao of Health, Sex, and Longevity. I have heard of all this before having been interested in Taoist subjects for years but had never looked into this in detail. Forget the orgasms! So many convincing arguments about how healthy it is for males.
I'm actually doing some rewiring in more ways than one.. Not just activating the energy around the prostate. Very pleased that this board has added to and strengthened my interest in all things energy!
I've done anywhere from 2 to 12 days of retention over the last two years, pretty much non stop. I unload the most semen on days 6-8 of a break. It is an unbelievable amount! Anything after 4 days is good, but day 7 is primo. And I've done any span of days I listed multiple times. There is a Chinese study where researchers tested sperm counts for regular healthy men in a lab setting between 1 day off and over 7, maybe they went to 9 or 10 days. Semen tested on the day of ejaculation, so if there was a 3 day break from any and all sex and the dude cums, they test it. After a 7 day break, sperm counts are way up, like way higher than normal (sorry I can't find the article to link it here, but it was in a medical journal totally legit).
Amount of semen is directly related to the amount of sperm: more sperm, more semen is needed. If sperm counts are higher on certain numbered days of abstaining, on that day you should have a bigger semen load. I've also done an Aneros/prostate session on day 7 and while it was a lot of semen and prostate fluid released, the real increase wasn't seen until I had a TO with a toy in me. I had an amazing session for sure, but it was the only time I got to try to do prostate stimulation on day 7. All other day 7 breaks ended with me drenching my wife, who loves it 😉
Making love without ejaculating is extremely invigorating! It is "comfortable" and I put that in quotes because I can't describe the feeling. There's no frenetic business going on like when you both know you're going to cum. It's just a relaxed sharing of love, and when you don't climax, but she does, its wonderful. It is exceptionally exciting knowing that you will ejaculate/orgasm eventually, so it makes for a very ramped up experience when you finally do!