Nipple play; helpful or not?

@GGringo astute observation. I can see how you do not want to become 'dependent' on any stimulus/stimuli to initiate/intensify prostate and anal orgasms. I wish you the best of success as you 'strip away' everything but the basic pathways to orgasmic pleasure.

As for me, I love the nipple play and binaural beats. Maybe I have become dependent on those things for my own pleasure. But in the meantime, they both feel too good to drop, so if that means I am relying on them, so be it!

Binaural beats are somewhat necessary as they help to drown out my wife's snoring and focus me in on my pleasure. In a quiet room I could easily do without the beats.
As for nipple play, I really am still exploring the subtlety of my touch and my body's response to nipple play so I do not want to stop anytime soon. Just the way my touch transfers from the brushing of my chest hair, to my nipples, to my groin, it's simply wonderful.

I appreciate @GGringo's thoughts on nipple diddling. When I had my breakthrough in my Aneros sessions which resulted in my first Super-O's and MMO's in mid September 2016, diddling my nipples became a supple of sexual enjoyment and an inducement to Super-O's and MMO's particularly at night in bed.

I began my Aneros journey in early June 2012. When I began to get into that journey, I had/have two rules of thumb: (1) Have fun. (2) Pursue Aneros and Aless activities that give pleasure.

Nipple diddling is not for everybody. A lot of guys have difficulty enjoying the pleasure of their nipples in diddling. I say, relax, have fun, pursue pleasure.

For me, a get nice sensations after insertion. The, things kind of level off. As soon as the nipple diddling starts, it ramps up the pleasure 10 fold!

I am glad for you as you incorporate the pleasure of nipple diddling in your sessions, @Cracker! 😉

They this.... download the aneros hypnosis session. About half way into the first CD she will walk you through several feel good tactile techniques that can be used as alternatives to nipple stroking. When I get to that really good 'can't hold back much longer' point, I pay one of those techniques. Last night I had a real mind bender O just by stretching my hands and barely.grazing the hairs on my abdomen. Lightly touching ball hairs at that point is a good one too. if you are flexible enough, try the arch of your feet and back side of knee too.

[USER="58120"]Neveryman[/USER] thanks for responding. That's my problem! Nipple play feels too great; it's really a struggle to ignore them but I want to see if I can rekindle prostate pleasures without them. It's only temporary; just exploring the possibilities.

Have you reached the Super-O level yet?

@GGringo I would say that yes I have experienced what is often defined here as the Super Orgasm. My favorite type is the body vibrating type where I am hyper focused on the moment, my pleasure seems to be outside my body cells and all thoughts disappear. But that type of orgasm is incredibly rare for me and it always takes places when I’m not moving at all, eyes closed, near sleep state, almost hypnosis level relaxation. So no nipple play with that orgasm

WITH nipple play I can have wave after wave of incredibly intense dry orgasms that drain me of precum and make me almost cry from the strength of my erections. These orgasms are as intense as any wet dream orgasm and last for minutes at a time. When I enjoy these orgasms, my ass, gland, toy and all surrounding areas turn into a White Dwarf Star of sheer pleasure.

[USER="58120"]Neveryman[/USER] great to hear about the success in your journey! I've been at this since Jan 19, 2016 and although I have absolutely nothing to complain about in my journey (as far as great sensations are concerned), I still try new things and methods on a regular basis. This allows me to fully explore the boundaries of my body which I never seem to reach. Every day, I seem to attain a new level of pleasure, a new twitch, a new sensation and I thoroughly enjoy myself in my journey.

Early this morning, I had my first Aless session without touching my nips and with negligible sensations. I tried to focus on my prostate while breathing and engaging in the occasional Kegel exercise but to no avail.

Now, just before lunch, as I'm writing this, I'm sitting on a stress ball and I'm experiencing plenty of p-waves as I seem to reconnect somewhat with my prostate. The experiment will continue for a while yet.

Needless to say that when I achieve your level, nipples will be front and center (no pun intended). They will never be useless as tits on a bull as they used to be before I discovered them!

Good vibes to you!

Life is wonderful

I really thought this would be useless and a waste of time for me. Boy, was I wrong !!! Really ramps up the feelings quick. Definitely helpful.

Nipple play has definitely raised the bar for me! Intense feelings and waves as well as Os in the perenium, prostate, anus, and cock head! Aless has also ratcheted up to a higher level! Can achieve these feelings with or without nipple play but enjoy it more
with nipple play! All about focus and relaxation!

The last two months or so I stopped aneros sessions, as i have been exploring how to give myself dry orgasms through traditional masturbation. The only time I put my helix in was with a partner, so without major focus on my prostate.

I since discovered how to have dry orgasms while masturbating. I have around 3-10 per session before I get exhausted, usually with between 5-15 minutes of masturbating before the first one, and then a chain of orgasms in short succession. I also have these orgasms rubbing my cock on my partner’s skin.

A couple days ago I had a session with my helix syn, and I was surprised to find that I had a rare non-orgasmic session. Then I tried another session yesterday, to great orgasmic success.

i think that by stopping my aneros use for a couple months and focusing on other sensations, I sort of fell out of touch with how to trigger massage based orgasms. But it came back quickly.

I explained all that to say that I think that you will not lose your muscle memory and orgasmic pathway memory through negligence (in this case of your prostate sensation due to focus on nipples), but it might take time to get it back...? As a violinist, when I stop for a period of time, the time it takes to feel comfortable on my instrument is directly correlated with the time I spent not playing. I think this is the same with any physical or mental activity.

Practice makes perfect. And for us in the know, practice involves fucking ourselves in the ass. Hooray!

Yes, nipple play rocks!

I never leave nipple play out of my play time. Why should I? Maybe if I was curious and just wanted to see how something else would give me pleasure. Having not started with nipple play as a young man, I am acutely aware of how it is without nipple play. Lacking! So, I aim to always include nipple play in every sensual/sexual situation I find myself enjoying. Why eat a hamburger without condiments? Just a bland piece of meat. Put something on that hunk of meat for me! The more the merrier!

Nipple play is like my “On Switch”. Maybe too “On”.

I have been playing around with Super-O edging. I get the session going with nipple play, then back off, letting things develop on their own. The more sessions I practice, the more interesting it gets. It does take longer at first. I do think nipple play, being quite intense, can prevent other, important, sensations from being noticed. It’s just too damned tempting though!

Thanks everyone for your insight on this topic!

I agree, them buds are too valuable of pleasure makers too ignore. For me, they are back in full action; experiment is over!

Good vibes to everyone.

@Xileh: You Said...................."It does take longer at first. I do think nipple play, being quite intense, can prevent other, important, sensations from being noticed"

I ask you to explain what you mean by that, bro.

For me, nipple play is the on switch for exquisite pleasure stroking my penis while simultaneously looking for and mentally directing my body to send forth those blissful, sublime, orgasmic feelings. And when they do after a few moments emerge in my penis, prostate, abdomen, or where-ever, I seize upon them in mentally focusing on them in enjoyment and pleasure and mentally encourage them to build to a mind shattering full body affectation.

You are correct that with this edging business, each stop on the highway near the PONR leads to an increased next stroking session of greater enjoyment and greater, more intense orgasmic pleasure.

By posting my experiences, I wonder if I am out in left field with this. I am open to review and correction by you guys who are better practitioners.

@GGringo I am so glad you have stopped shooting yourself in the foot----er, YOUR EROGENOUS PARTS--by not utilizing nipple play to the max. Welcome back into the fold, bro.

First, am not including any penile stimulation in my practices. I am edging the Super-O only. And, it can be a mind blower.

In my own experience, nipple play is very intense. As I said, it is my “On Switch”. Enjoying a session without nipple play allows all of the other sensations to come out to play. With nipples involved, they are initially too shy to be noticed. Over time they are getting stronger and that is part of what I am finding so interesting. I hope they will lead me to a new path of pleasure. It’s kind of like not being able to hear the band when the fireworks are going off. Yet, the music can be very enjoyable.

It’s just another avenue on our trip of enjoyment.

Xileh

Nipple play is like my “On Switch”. Maybe too “On”.

I have been playing around with Super-O edging. I get the session going with nipple play, then back off, letting things develop on their own. The more sessions I practice, the more interesting it gets. It does take longer at first. I do think nipple play, being quite intense, can prevent other, important, sensations from being noticed. It’s just too damned tempting though!

I am with you on this one dude! Nipples and edging is WAY too good to refrain from the nipps. I like to play around some times with one thing then another then another. Maybe single stimulation in one area then switch to another area then switch to another area, etc. Then have a culmination of all parts for that grand finale like the fireworks shows! But not until after I have stayed on that razor edge for a long time. I usually hold out until my balls ache and my perineum is roaring like a lion. By this time I have had several ejaculation free orgasms!

@divine_o I’ve found a new angle. I’ve often thought regarding prostate stimulation and nipple play that there’s an interplay between the two. But I could never put my finger on the answer. To clarify, I tried using nipple play and prostate stimulation, either with or without Aneros. And after a timed interval I’d focus off the Np. Etc. etc. But last week I hit upon another procedure, if you like. IDK about you, but when I begin my Aneros journeys, my nips are rock hard. And very sensitive. So attending to them is erotic and adds greatly to the prostate stimulation. BUT, I notice after a while the hardness recedes till my nips are small again. This to me is the time to stop working on them and tune into my prostate. I usually leave them alone for the rest of the session and tune into the humming of my prostate that often leads to a big O. You can try it. Maybe it’s just me but thought I’d throw it out in case it works for others. 

@divine_o

I know this is a little off topic, but would love to know how you achieved dry orgasms from traditional masturbation. It is something I have been working, without success so far, some pointers would be greatly appreciated.

For me it was extremely helpful. It gets me aroused and increases prostate sensation.

Posted by: @rickr

I know this is a little off topic, but would love to know how you achieved dry orgasms from traditional masturbation. It is something I have been working, without success so far, some pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 

I have a very strong PC muscle. When I edge to the PONR, I sometimes go over resulting in experiencing an extremely strong orgasm but I avoid ejaculation by clenching my PC muscle very strongly without letting go until the orgasm subsides.   The orgasm is far greater than my regular penile version and I'm left shaking and tingling all over 

This is thanks to practicing Kegels on a regular basis. 

@ggringo

Thanks man, looks like some training is in order!

@rickr

here is a thread where I explain my technique, with useful links included. Enjoy!

https://community.aneros.com/community/general-discussion/traditional-masturbation-to-dry-orgasm/

@divine_o, I remember reading it back then and I've been successful in developing my own version that's very simulsr to yours.  Very inspirational!

@ggringo oh awesome! I am glad you figured out what works for you. I imagine it is very personal for everyone, just like prostate play..

@divine_o not personal for me (perhaps for others).  The base is very similar but with a few little differences. 

How I do it solo:

1. I use the “continuous orgasm” method of masturbating (see link above), by edging (9/10) and keeping my pc muscles relaxed to avoid ejaculation. This is tricky because my PC muscles tend to want to go on autopilot and start pumping, both to build arousal and to bring me to orgasm. I try to fight that.

My PC muscle remains active but not pumping, just various level of clenching if that makes sense.  I had to train to not pump but rather ease on and off.  If I pump,  I'm done for the night.

2. Then after I’ve built up enough arousal, I get myself up to 9.5/10 and do one of the following to throw myself over the edge into an orgasm without ejaculation, while continuing to stroke myself all the while (I never stop stroking). Using my awareness of pc muscles, I am able to get to the point of orgasm, without tipping over into ejaculation. I do one of the following things:

When reaching this moment, I stop stroking but just for a second or two and immediately clench again until the next cycle.  As I progress, the length of the cycles shorten and so the time to clench again.

3. Once I start having orgasms, I seem to be able to easily avoid ejaculatory orgasms. However, several orgasms in, I sometimes ejaculate a partial load WITHOUT an associated orgasm. I think it is because I overload my system, but I can’t say for sure.

At this point, my multiple orgasms consecutively increase in intensity and I almost don't stop stroking. Yes, some fluids does dribble out (the stuff is between precum and semen).

On your point #4, I dont move my hand to the base; if I do, the intensity reduces substantially.

This is an excellent guide to MMO! Everyone should experiment to see what works for them; it's well worth the effort!

Yes of course, Best way to give nipple play is first remove her clothes. Open her bra and make her breasts free.

@ayushiest true. And let's be honest, who doesn't love a nice pair of breasts? Even other ladies are always taking notice.