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Hey all!

I am very new to the field of prostate massage. After being a lurker on the forum for awhile now, I decided to fork over the money and get a helix. Now, I must say that my ejaculations have been wayyyy fuller. And it almost seems like ejaculation doesnt have that stage where "my brain shuts down" im more experiencing everything. Semen production is higher also. And mann, does it feel great when I'm about to ejaculate and I feel the P-tab rubbing against my perineum. But, I also have some questions.

I really think I have a veryyyy weak PC muscle. So, I'm assuming I need to work that out a bit if I want any results? Also, every session so far has ended in ejaculation, I just can't seem to control it. Any help in this area guys?

And I'm not sure I'm feeling it hit the prostate, but at the same time I am sure! haha I'm not sure if that makes sense to you guys, but it makes sense to me. For instance, When I use the Helix, sometimes I will get some pre-cum and other times....well I'll get nothing. But when I use my finger instead of the Helix, I get a bunch of pre-cum flowing. I havent felt any waves of orgasmic ecstasy yet, although I know I have to go through this "journey".

So, I guess I just need a little guidance from here on out. Answers to some of my problems would be fully appreciated. I won't be giving up on the Aneros anytime soon, but, hey, with my ADHD and short attention span, it might be true lol.

Any tips, guys??

Thank You!!


   
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Hi mattiscool and welcome.

I am as sure as I can be that you are hitting your prostate. What has not happened is your "awakening" or "re-wiring". You (we) are so conditioned to having an ejaculation be the culmination of a sexual experience that this is always in the back of our minds that will be how it ends. You say that you "can't seem to control it". I think for you to really test the waters here, you need to spend at least a couple of sessions with keeping your hands occupied somewhere else. I am not saying that you need to go even a week without an ejaculation. Just try a session or two and see how the build up of your sexual energy treats you. It is all an experiment and you will find what works for you. The beginning is when you should really do some exploring.

It sounds as though you are having a great time and that is cool. But it also sounds as though you know that there is something bigger that you want to achieve and you are right about that. You will go through any number of stages in this process. Check back with us occasionally and let us know how it is going.

Take care.


   
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Now I remember reading somewhere, I believe it was Bs Keys to the Backdoor, but it says that it's OK to ejaculate AS LONG as you do it AFTER the session. Is this ok?


   
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mattiscool,

The simple answer to your question is Yes it is OK. Some Aneros owners use their massagers primarily as masturbatory aids to enhance ejaculations, which it certainly can, see the Super-T in the WIKI - ( http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=The_Super-O#The_Super-T ). How you choose to use your massager is totally up to you, there are no rules here, it is all about what makes you feel good.
That being said, most of the discussion on this Forum is about what is involved for a man to experience a Super-O. ‘BF Mayfield’ has provided us a wealth of information about various aspects of practice to enhance our abilities to get to the Super-O level. One of those fundamental aspects is the importance of beginning a session already substantially aroused. IMHO, your Aneros is a better arousal amplifier than it is an arousal initiator, as such anything which diminishes one’s arousal level will be detrimental to creating a Super-O experience.
Frequent masturbation to ejaculation may have the effect of dampening potential arousal levels. Many men, including myself, have recommended that one abstain from ejaculating for longer periods of time in order to build that inner sexual tension and tendency to become highly aroused. I think it helps to get you to the threshold of the Super-O. I know some others may disagree with this approach and it is really up to you to find out for yourself if semi-abstinence helps or hinders.
I hope this eases your mind some with respect to your practice regime.


   
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Hi mattiscool,

That is all I was trying to say. I have had some of the best ejaculations of my life at the end of some of my sessions. I am just thinking that in your beginning stages that you might want to refrain a time or two and see what a difference that can make. If you don't feel like trying it......HAVE FUN Super T's are great! But they are not Super O's


   
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well, I tried today for a full session. Hoping I would be able to go all the way without ejaculating.....unfortunately I'm too horny, apparently 😆

I began the session....and after about 3 minutes, I couldn't take it and had to relieve myself through ejaculation. Gahh!! This is so unbelievably frustrating....damn

But, I have noticed that, although I havent gone through a session (i've mainly been using it as a masturbation tool) I've become more sensitive and aware to sensations.

Also, Today while the Aneros was inside me and I was flexing my anal muscles, I could feel almost as if my legs wanted to twitch, but didnt. Like, it felt like my legs wanted to shake, but wouldn't. Well, now i just sound plain crazy!!


   
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mattiscool,

I am a little confused about your latest post. Are you asking for some advice about what you are experiencing? If so what is your desired goal here? What exactly constitutes a “...full session.” in your expectations? What do you mean by “Hoping I would be able to go all the way without ejaculating…”? All the way where? When you stated “I couldn't take it and had to relieve myself through ejaculation.”, does that mean you manually masturbated to ejaculation? Did you have a spontaneous, hands free ejaculation? Was your penis being otherwise stimulated? When you say that you have been using it “… as a masturbation tool)…” is this your primary desired usage?
The ability to perceive the muscular tension which may or may not lead to tremors/spasms is a good sign that you are in fact beginning to tune into your body language as it speaks to you. In this respect you are definitely not sounding crazy. If you want members to provide advice, we need a bit more information about what your desired goals are before we can provide much help.


   
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mattiscool,

I am a little confused about your latest post. Are you asking for some advice about what you are experiencing? If so what is your desired goal here? What exactly constitutes a “...full session.” in your expectations? What do you mean by “Hoping I would be able to go all the way without ejaculating…”? All the way where? When you stated “I couldn't take it and had to relieve myself through ejaculation.”, does that mean you manually masturbated to ejaculation? Did you have a spontaneous, hands free ejaculation? Was your penis being otherwise stimulated? When you say that you have been using it “… as a masturbation tool)…” is this your primary desired usage?
The ability to perceive the muscular tension which may or may not lead to tremors/spasms is a good sign that you are in fact beginning to tune into your body language as it speaks to you. In this respect you are definitely not sounding crazy. If you want members to provide advice, we need a bit more information about what your desired goals are before we can provide much help.

haha sorry about that!

let's see

I guess my goal here is guidance and advice
A "full session" is about twenty minutes of using the aneros without penile stimulation
I was hoping I could do a full session, even if there were no results, without ejaculation through manual stimulation of the penis

I guess what i need help on is finding the, erm...resistance to not ejaculate
it's so hard!


   
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mattiscool,

First off, IMHO, establishing artificial time constraints for a session immediately puts psychological pressure on you to “perform”, this is not conducive to producing the relaxed state needed to enjoy the subtle sensations emitted from your prostate. My suggestion here is to give yourself a much larger block of time, on the order of two hours, to enjoy yourself. You can always terminate it sooner, if needed, but making sure you don’t feel pressured is important.
I am assuming here your new little toy is providing substantial pleasing sensations to the extent you are being swept along toward the urge to ejaculate in a traditional manner. If that is the case, only you can exercise the will power to keep your hands or any other materials away from your penis. My suggestion here is to SLOW DOWN. Take your time, relax, savor the pleasure waves, focus on these inner sensations and let them take over your body, practice deep belly rhythmic breathing. Let go of the desire to control the direction your feelings lead. If this leads to a hands free ejaculation that’s OK, your next session may be totally different.
A prostate centered orgasm is a paradigm shift away from the traditional model. It does take time to rewire yourself into this new model but you need to have the intention of doing so firmly established in your mind for it to be effective.
I hope this little bit of information helps.


   
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Thank Rumel!

I'm actually thinking about buying the Hypnaerosession CD. I have ADHD, and I think the impatience of it is making me not want to wait out the 2 hours, or 20 mins of a session, it just takes too long. I'm definitly working on this, but the Hypnaerosession will give me something to better grasp and focus on while doing the exercises so I won't be too distracted.

BTW, I had the best session I've ever had today, on a manual stimulation level, of course! I had it in and relaxed for about 7 minutes, and got too antsy and impatient, then proceeded to masturbate to the best orgasm I've ever had!!

Also, during that session, when I was just relaxing with the aneros and doing a few contractions, my breath was shortened. And it felt like a TINYY orgasm was coming on.....almost like "the pee shivers", if you know what I mean. Is this normal?


   
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mattiscool,

The fact your breathing pattern shortens is another indicator of your excitement and arousal level. Yes, I think I know what you mean by the “pee shivers”. That, I believe, is a good sign your prostate is being stimulated and is 'talking' to you. It is saying, “Hey, I’m awake, I’m here and I’m ready to rumble, let’s get it on…”.
From your description of events, it sounds to me as if you are too aroused. In which case my previous advice to SLOW DOWN still applies. If you have read the sections of the WIKI which I previously suggested to you, ( http://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Getting_Started Preparation > Feeling Ready) you would have seen this : “Likewise, when one is too aroused it can present a problem as well. It sounds like a contradiction, but being too aroused can lead to impatience, and impatience is a “deal breaker.” Why? Because it can cause you to ignore the subtle sensations that should be the focus of your attention.“
Learning to get into a relaxed state BEFORE inserting your Aneros may be just the technique to try here. There are many different techniques to induce relaxed states (soaking in a hot tub, saunas, full body massage, a long hot shower, meditation, listening to soothing music, self hypnosis, etc.) Whichever technique works well for you is fine, my “HypnAerosession” CD is just one possibility. If you do decide to purchase it, my suggestion would be to listen to the first 25 minutes of CD#1 PRIOR to inserting your Aneros. Then after inserting start the recording over from the beginning. I think this may help you calm down to enjoy the wonderful sensations you will be experiencing.


   
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UPDATE!!

I had my first mild contractions today! Now, when I say "mild" i mean that my body wanted me to move my legs about, but i stayed relaxed, BUT i had involuntary contractions, although little, in my legs, shoulders, stomach, face, and arms. Although, unfortunately, these only included about one or two contractions a piece, but I had many of these instances throughout the session. I hope I'm on the right track!!

Also! The way I achieved this was that I remember reading somewhere on the forum to contract the anal muscles/sphincter (whatever it's called) to about half your strength. I did this and let it stay tensed up for awhile, and then my anus started to quiver and such. After about 3 to 5 minutes of this, I started having contractions. But the best part is this: These contractions and holding my anus at a certain tense caused VERY pleasurable sensations. Dare I say, orgasmic? I really couldn't tell if it was pleasurable or orgasmic, but damn they felt good. Good to the point where I had to let off a silent moan.

Also, it seems as if, when I was having these contractions and pleasurable feelings, it knocked the wind out of me. Like, I had my anus tensed, and the longer it was tensed, the more difficult it was to breath AND hold that tense at the same time. And every now and then, I'd have it tensed and my body would almost FORCE the air out with a quiver in my voice, involuntarily.

After this, I really had no urge to masturbate. But, I did anyways lol! I ejaculated the first time with the aneros inserted and then about 20 mins later ejaculated again. Both of these times where through manual stimulation (masturbation). I must add that when I masturbate with the aneros inserted, when I ejaculate it seems as if it lasts longer, but isnt as intense. And it seems as if that "silent stage" (the part where your brain basically shuts down during orgasm) was pushed back a bit further and was for a shorter duration while I experienced the orgasm instead of just "shutting down".


   
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