Nerve Sensitivity and Weight Questions

Your life sound similar to mine... wife can’t do sex, turned to masturbation, hard to stop, BPH, found Aneros by accident. 5’10”, 200.

so I have found (after a year) I’m more sensitive all over - everything has “woken up”.

1) yep I get good sensations... have had a few super Os... in short it’s working for me

2) not sure on that... I know if I Aneros too much, I’m less responsive so I do have to pace myself

3) ejaculation seems to kill my horniness (bad for Aneros sessions), so I go for semen retention and edging (not always successful, but getting better)... masturbation also seems to interfere with “rewiring”. So yeah, I avoid touching the penis at all during Aneros and try to do less touching outside of Aneros sessions

i’ve Only been at it a year, so others can certainly be more helpful here... best of luck!

Welcome @washpci

I am 5'11" and 188lbs so I'm not going to be an expert on this personally but in doing my own research of the effects of an Aneros...on many free porn sites you can find quite a number of heavier guys that are feeling that pleasure. Anatomically my assumption is your analy cavity is what it is and your prostate ends up in the same place.

2. It does not. In fact ever since getting to the point I can have Super-Os...my penis itself is significantly more sensitive. My nipples have also been awakened to the poiunt if my shirt grazes my nipples it sends a shiver down my spine.

3. It temporarily does. It reduces your horniness and arousal level and that is one of the keys to actually having good Aneros sessions.

@washpci I'm 6' and used to weigh 267, so roughly the same shape as you (I'm somewhat smaller now). I never found this to prevent me from achieving the desired results. Regardless of your size, be prepared that it may take some time to get there. It was close to a year before I felt the first hints of what was to come. Today, about a decade later, I can achieve multiple full body orgasms in a number of different ways.

Developing this skill has made me more sensitive for traditional masturbation. Starting off with prostate induced orgasm(s) can lead to a stronger traditional masturbation orgasm, sometimes referred to as Super-T. There are quite a few descriptions of this in the forum.

Ejaculation always seem to slow down things. My advice is to start off with prostate stimulation, and if you feel the desire, finish off your session with traditional masturbation.

As always with Aneros, the key word is patience. Allow things to happen, rather than trying to make them happen. Enjoy your journey!

@HereByAccident

ejaculation seems to kill my horniness (bad for Aneros sessions), so I go for semen retention... masturbation also seems to interfere with “rewiring”.

@HereByAccident I think you are right on there.

@darkbond

It temporarily does. It reduces your horniness and arousal level and that is one of the keys to actually having good Aneros sessions

@darkbond I have already found that my overall horniness increases dramatically when I ease off the masturbation. Your confirmation. will help give me strength to continue my efforts to reduce that activity.

@Pavlov

I'm 6' and used to weigh 267, so roughly the same shape as you (I'm somewhat smaller now). I never found this to prevent me from achieving the desired results.

Thanks @Pavlov, it is nice to know that someone on the heavier side has achieved desired results. You have shed lots of light on my concern regarding too much mass between my rectum wall and my prostate due to my size.

@darkbond

Ejaculation always seem to slow down things.

My thanks to @HereByAccident, @Pavlov and @darkbond for your input and encouragement. Everyone here, so far, seems to agree that semen retention will help. I have decided to attempt to go for at least 8 - 9 days without masturbation, while working with the Aneros every 2 - 3 days. I am hoping I can feel some positive correlation.

@Pavlov

As always with Aneros, the key word is patience.

@Pavlov I have heard this counsel before, but feel it is so key to success that I can never hear it too much! Thank you!

On perhaps a positive note, 2 sessions ago, as I neared the end of the 1st HypnAerosession MP3, I felt some flutter on the inside of my anal opening. I am not sure if this is progress and may have been my imagination. In any case, it was very nice to feel something different! Unfortunately, today's session that flutter did not make an appearance.

Thanks @Pavlov, it is nice to know that someone on the heavier side has achieved desired results. You have shed lots of light on my concern regarding too much mass between my rectum wall and my prostate due to my size.

@washpci What you can feel is always what is beeing picked up by nerve endings in your body. No nerve endings, nothing felt. The nerve endings involved when using Aneros are not located in your prostate, but rather between your prostate and your rectum, so even if you are a little on the heavy side, this should not prevent you from success with the Aneros.

In Words of hope for those not yet successful, I have written some short notes on how to think when you don't achieve instant success.

I have never heard of excessive masturbation desensitizing nerve endings. Where did you hear that? I have practiced penile masturbation excessively at many point in my life (multiple times a day) with only an increase in sensitivity as a result.

However as with many folk here, I feel semen retention and edging definitely gives for better prostate play results. Once you start experiencing prostate orgasms, it may become much easier to convince yourself to not partake in penile masturbation, or to masturbate in a edging way without ejaculating. Because the intensified pleasure caused by prostate play during periods of semen retention acts as a psychological carrot to hold off from ejaculation. That's how I am. At the beginning of my journey, I refrained from ejaculation at least 24 hours before every Aneros session, and I think that helped.

Originally posted by divine_oblivion
have never heard of excessive masturbation desensitizing nerve endings. Where did you hear that?

@divine_oblivion Nobody told me this. It just seems to come from my experiences so far.

Your comment and question has caused me to reflect more on what is actually happening that I have identified as "penile desensitivity". What may have been happening over the years is a gradual increase in the refractory period after ejaculation.

So far, I can't rule out the possibility of nerve desensitivity. I say this because stimulation of my glans by simple touching or light massage no longer produces the sensations like it once did and the ejaculations are not as strong as they once were and with less semen..

Perhaps you are correct, but because of other possible issues going on, it is somewhat confusing to me as to what is actually happening. The only way to get a better idea is to rule out the likelihood of the nerves becoming desensitized and therefore the effect that may have on my Aneros experience. Thank you so much for your comment and question. If you are correct, I can look forward, even more, to my future Aneros activity.

I would be interested to hear if others have ever experienced penile nerve desensitivity possibly from excessive masturbation.

Originally posted by Pavlov
What you can feel is always what is beeing picked up by nerve endings in your body. No nerve endings, nothing felt. The nerve endings involved when using Aneros are not located in your prostate, but rather between your prostate and your rectum, so even if you are a little on the heavy side, this should not prevent you from success with the Aneros.

In Words of hope for those not yet successful, I have written some short notes on how to think when you don't achieve instant success..

@Pavlov Thank you for your thoughts and the link. You show great wisdom and provide much needed encouragement. I do look forward to the destination. Although the destination appears to be wonderful, I find myself now looking forward to enjoying the journey as well. Of course that journey would be greatly improved if more progress is being made sooner. I do believe that success begets success.

@washpci I understand we are all different, so it is perfectly possible that you have been desensitized by age or other hormonal factors, or an extended refractory period. If it is the latter, why not try masturbatory edging and semen retention? That not only annuls the refractory period, but once you get good at it, a masturbation session can be as pleasing without orgasm/ejaculation as with. That is, when you figure out how to ride on the Point of no Return (PONR) for minutes at a time, that can feel orgasmic in and of itself. And it also builds up sexual tension, which makes your erogenous zones more sensitive and makes your aneros sessions more intense (for most people).

Otherwise I have read many times on this forum that men become more sensitive and in general more aroused as they embark on the aneros journey. That is definitely the case for me. And the more I stimulate my prostate the more sensitive it becomes. Globally (over the course of the last few months) and on a short term basis. That is, if I have an intense session tonight, my prostate will be incredibly stimulated and I will be exceptionally aroused for the next 24 hours, especially if I do not ejaculate at the end of my session.

Is this the same as "Death Grip"?

http://www.curedeathgrip.com/index.html

http://www.curedeathgrip.com/plan-a.html

Originally posted by divine_oblivion
I have read many times on this forum that men become more sensitive and in general more aroused as they embark on the aneros journey.

@divine_oblivion I believe you have defined well what occurs regarding arousal when continued Aneros use is practiced. I will try to incorporate semen retention, as you suggested, into my practices. Thank you!

originally posted by lonewolf8
Is this the same as "Death Grip"?

http://www.curedeathgrip.com/index.html

http://www.curedeathgrip.com/plan-a.html

@lonewolf8 You and perhaps others may have sensed my struggle to define this "nerve de-sensitivity" I have been referring to. I followed and explored the links you provided. It seems to me that this "death grip" phenomena very accurately describes what is happening with me. My thanks to you for helping me to better define what is happening as well as a plan to help me deal with it. With this better understanding, and the comments posted by others in this thread, I now feel that my Aneros future is bright..... if I only have the strength and self discipline to get my masturbation, pornography and Aneros use in a better balance.

You know, if my wife had been more interested in sex I'd probably have never found Aneros. Would have missed out on a lot of pleasure.

I too have found sensitive spots on my body I never knew I had and I'm glad I did. Should probably thank my wife but probably wouldn't
be a good idea.

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@NewJoyToy I have some comments for you, but since they are off topic, I will send to you in a private message. Thanks for your contributon to this thread.

1) Because I am considered obese I find myself wondering if the anal wall between the anus and the prostate can become thick enough to prevent the aneros stimulations from being sufficiently felt by the prostate on the other side

I seriously doubt fat is a factor. Fat generally congregates subcutaneously and not too much around organs, (please see How Fat Cells Work).

2) The idea of too much masturbation leading to penile insensitivity makes some sense to me. I was wondering if this insensitivity at the penis end translates to an insensitivity on the prostate end also?

I doubt it, actually one of the aspects of learning to prostate orgasm is separating the sensations which lead to penile based ejaculatory orgasms from those which lead to prostate based orgasms, (please see @Cockadoodle ’s thread Penis, NOT).

3) Because I have doubts about significant reduction of masturbation/ejaculation), I am wondering if masturbation can get "in the way" of doing aneros sessions? If so, what would be some recommendations how to balance this (timing, sequence etc.)?

Yes, I believe frequent ejaculatory orgasms suppress the buildup of arousal necessary for successful Anerosessions. Arousal (please see Are you "aroused"?) is an important aspect of this practice for generating pleasure. As some of the members above have noted, temporal abstinence/semen retention (please see Aneros, Arousal & Abstinence) is one path successfully used to generate the higher levels of arousal necessary to generate prostate orgasms. I would strongly recommend you undertake the 21 day challenge to see the effects for yourself. Don't worry if the first few times you try you don't make it to the 21 day mark, just start again. I can almost guarantee you will learn alot about your body and the importance of 'arousal' in the Aneros journey. You may find that with increasing pleasure success with your Aneros the desire to maintain generally higher arousal levels will decrease your incidences of traditional masturbation leading to ejaculations. As we get older the refractory periods generally get longer so avoiding triggering that effect can become a motivating factor to increasing your Aneros practice and reducing traditional masturbation as well.
Good Vibes to You !

@rumel Thanks for your contributions to this thread. I have read @Cockadoodle 's thread about Penis Not" and have taken it to heart.

I have great interest in taking the 21 day challenge you referenced. The link you provided sent me to another thread by @Jspad . When I followed the link I found there to take the challenge, I was greeted with what appears to be a dead end. Please see attachment below. I also noted that your links to the daily videos reported "Video Unavailable". Not sure what is going on, but hope to learn more later.

I have already seen the arousal benefits of semen retention. Now my challenge is how to accomplish that. Thanks!!!!

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@washpci, I'm sorry the 21 Day Challenge site is not currently available, hopefully it will be in the near future. It's hard to keep up with the rapidly changing web world with sites coming and going or being updated. In any event, I believe practicing some form of semen retention is a powerful technique for increasing your arousal level. I think that is why some men actually put themselves into chastity devices to cut down on their masturbatory habits which leads to fewer ejaculations and their consequent refractory periods with loss of libido. You might find Kelmag's blog entry Male Chastity - Pleasure and Devotion, the Science Behind It a well researched blog entry on this phenomena.
Good Vibes to You !

@washpci glad I could be of some help here.