My theory on how prostate play really functions.

Your theory explains the importance of the mind in successful Aneros sessions. I have long believed it is more between the ears than between the cheeks.

It also addresses why many folks claim marijuana and it's mind altering internally focusing effects really move things along.

Your theory explains the importance of the mind in successful Aneros sessions. I have long believed it is more between the ears than between the cheeks.

It also addresses why many folks claim marijuana and it's mind altering internally focusing effects really move things along.

I find the marijuhana claim and possible "mind altering" connection plausible as well, but can`t really say for sure as I`ve never tried it myself. It`s on my bucketlist...

Hi @Alex_xxx,

Your theory is a masterpiece and I need to study it thoroughly.

I am getting to the point in my Aneros sessions that now I often into an Aneros trance. When that happens, anything happens. I let go and let my Aneros Team take me where whether they take me. I go into my sessions with the object of having lots of fun and pleasure.

Thom./BigGlansDC

Alex_xxx,

I think you've re-opened a topic which has been discussed numerous times in the past. Most recently in @rikaaim 's thread Aneros: The Essential Mind State. Essentially, Aneros use to get into the Super-O zone requires one to enter an altered state of consciousness and likewise the Super-O induces another altered state of consciousness. This was also touched upon in a very good discussion which took place about 8 years ago in 'zaneblue's thread Automatic Tantra

Whilst it is true you can alter for a short time through subconscious suggestion (hypnotism) heart rates, blood pressure, breathing etc. there are finite limits to the degree of control and duration of these changes. Your body will return to its normal patterns rather quickly and you will not accept suggestions which would inherently injure or damage the body, like completely stopping your heart from beating or stop breathing for minutes at a time. Likewise, your prostate is not really being re-programmed, it is your mind being re-programmed by you to perceive sensations more readily through focused attention. This is an example of the neuroplasticity of the brain to literally "rewire" itself to effect behavioral changes.
Good Vibes to You !

@Rumel

The topic might be somewhat in the same category as the threads you linked to - but FAR from what I have proposed. Also, I never wrote that it is your prostate that is being rewired, I suggest you read my entire post again.

I don`t see that any of theese threads have connected the dots and gone to the lengths of explaining this in a scientific way that doesn`t involve people using diffuse chakra and tantra explenations.

Quote: "it is your mind being re-programmed by you to perceive sensations more readily through focused attention."

I do NOT propose that you are reprogramming your mind. Your mind is your consious state, you are only learning. What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level saying that this is no longer your G-spot and you are not supposed to get any of the G-spot like feelings from it. I DO suggest that you CAN enter into a SUBCONSIOUS aware state (subconsious awareness like controlling a dream) to find your connection to what the prostate controls or was supposed to control if you were a female.

Neither do I propose that you need an altered state of consiousness.

What I am suggesting is that you`re connecting to your subconsious which can then connect to a subconsiously controlled prostate. Needing the subconsious to connect to the prostate is because of two things:

1. The prostate is subconsiously controlled (and reacts to stimuly to provide people with relief of BMs).
2. IF the prostate is the male version of what should have become the female G-spot, then the process of becoming a physical man will have totally disconnected your prostate. You need your subconsious to reconnect this connection (easy description).

Other than that, the threads were only so-so interesting, and Zaneblue (automatic tantra) is a female having female orgasms - and has nothing to do with your prostate. It`s aldready clear in the first post of the thread.

And this thread "Aneros: the essential mind state" does NO explaining whatsoever about what happens and how it can be like that, and no scientific examples it just says that "this works for me". That does not propose a working theory..

I want this thread to have more of an scientific approach and not be explained by unexplainable "ying/yang" things.

What my theory MIGHT also explain to you - if you understand where I`m going with it - is an explanation on HOW and WHY people can remember "former lives" during Ultra-deep hypnosis - and there actually being such a person in history is proven. But I propose that you weren`t really reincarnated (I don`t believe that stuff). I am saying that you through hypnosis communicate with your subconsious that then again has the tools to read some of the memories from your grand-grand-grand-grand-grand father stored in your DNA. This is what makes the basis of what we later percieve as instinct.

If we could only tap into the subconsious in a simple way we could read history of evolution waaaaaaaay back in time (as long as some information hasn`t been overwritten). 🙂

Your brain rewiring and neuroplasticity is not ying/yang is it? I have read of numerous accounts of the brain doing amazing things for people who have had amputations feeling sensations on other parts of their bodies, paraplegics/quadriplegics who can have orgasms and such all while being conscious. Your theory on the subconscious part is interesting though as i have dabbled in hypnosis myself. I have never had any success at it though. I also agree that hypnosis will not work if you dont agree with or desire the information in hypnosis as it cannot be forced upon you in that way.

Hi @Alex_xxx,

Your theory is a masterpiece and I need to study it thoroughly.

I am getting to the point in my Aneros sessions that now I often into an Aneros trance. When that happens, anything happens. I let go and let my Aneros Team take me where whether they take me. I go into my sessions with the object of having lots of fun and pleasure.

Thom./BigGlansDC

Cool! Sounds interesting, never been there myself :)And thank you BGDC!

Your brain rewiring and neuroplasticity is not ying/yang is it? I have read of numerous accounts of the brain doing amazing things for people who have had amputations feeling sensations on other parts of their bodies, paraplegics/quadriplegics who can have orgasms and such all while being conscious. Your theory on the subconscious part is interesting though as i have dabbled in hypnosis myself. I have never had any success at it though. I also agree that hypnosis will not work if you dont agree with or desire the information in hypnosis as it cannot be forced upon you in that way.

Nope, what I mean by Ying Yang is the stuff about there always having to be positive and negative, one person breathing out and the other person breathing it in shares energy etc. etc. energy here and energy there, healing by thought, telekinesis and things like that.

I totally agree with you about the power of the mind though. Will and belief can "regulate" your body to do things (the subconsious level regulates the body) that really are amazing. This is proven by the placebo effect. Like totally killing cancer.

Alex_xxx,

It is not my desire to begin a contentious dialogue with you. Pedantically dissecting flawed logic, unsubstantiated statements, spelling and grammatical errors is going to accomplish nothing and would only be a waste of time. Let's just agree to disagree and let it go at that, the membership can and will determine the veracity of our statements on their own.
Shalom
Good Vibes to You !

@Alex_xxx
I like the way you are going with this. It helps to have another detailed 'theory of everything' view on the adjustment process. I might understand things slightly differently but this have given me opportunity for some serious thinking. It seems to describe my adjustment (rewire) process, slow but incremental. Your post has accelerated some nice changes, with the help of Progasm Jr.

Alex_xxx,

"What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level"

Do yourself a favor and stop spreading harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

If you have interest in neuroscience, study. When you will understand in the first place how the body work and how little we know, you might be able to formulate theory based on real and proved facts, not by fruits of your imagination.

Let me start this by saying this is my working theory. This is not based on a wealth of tests and evidence from multiple users. But feel free to chime in and help me with this.In other words this is all based upon nothing more than opinion, OK I got it.So my theory is that, by doing prostate play like using the Aneros, you actually have an aware session with you unconsious. Or through it to your prostate, as you will figure out later in this post. This means that you can trigger responses that are usually only controlled by your unconsious.Huh? An "...aware session with your unconsious." What the heck does that mean? The spellingnazi's are holding a gun to my head to point out that you could have used the built in spellcheck feature to correct the erroneous spelling for unconscious. It doesn't matter though because unconscious doesn't control anything it is merely a state of being, i.e. unconscious = not conscious. Now the subconscious on the other hand, well, that's active and influencing our behaviors 24/7 but even that does not control the autonomic nervous system. - and breathing is actually a subconsious process that you can also control consiously.Wow, scientific breakthrough, all those people who want to commit suicide can just suffocate themselves by consciously stopping their breathing, that would put an end to a lot of messy 'ends'.
And given the amount of data and pre-programmed responses to stimuli that your subconsious controls this opens a huge world of things you can re-program. You`re prostate is one of them - and I do believe this is what us aneros users call "to awaken the prostate".OK, where's the data? What pre-programmed responses? What type of stimulation? I would like to see any evidence for this, has anyone been able to reprogram the heart to perform a different function other than pump blood or the prostate to perform a different function like breathing? I think not. Come on Alex, get real.

Calm down, guys! The truth is that nobody really knows how this all works, but it's certainly fun doing the research. 😉

@Alex_xxx
I like the way you are going with this. It helps to have another detailed 'theory of everything' view on the adjustment process. I might understand things slightly differently but this have given me opportunity for some serious thinking. It seems to describe my adjustment (rewire) process, slow but incremental. Your post has accelerated some nice changes, with the help of Progasm Jr.

Thankyou! Feel free to say how you see how it works. Since there is no real studies being done on the subject it`s up to everyone to bring their explanations. Like every good doctor asks you how you feel and experience your illness/problems we should really consider what WE think is going on. This field is, in my opinion, a field that is still unexplained by science - and therefore not proven.

Alex_xxx,

"What you`re reprogramming is the actual physical writing on the DNA level"

Do yourself a favor and stop spreading harebrained pseudo scientific theory.

If you have interest in neuroscience, study. When you will understand in the first place how the body work and how little we know, you might be able to formulate theory based on real and proved facts, not by fruits of your imagination.

Well.. we`re all entitled to our own theories and opinions. If we were only to rely on proven facts then there would be no theories to prove or disprove. As for "harebrained" - I decided to let you rot in your own rude behaviour instead of engaging in meaningless hackery with you.

If you think you know better I challenge you to disprove my theory, starting with my quote. I based this upon my theory of how we are able to inherit instinct. It`s implemented in our DNA, based on that - our memories must be some extent be stored in our DNA. Otherwise there would be no evolution. Just look at the crocodiles, what`s the first thing they do?

Let me start this by saying this is my working theory. This is not based on a wealth of tests and evidence from multiple users. But feel free to chime in and help me with this.In other words this is all based upon nothing more than opinion, OK I got it.So my theory is that, by doing prostate play like using the Aneros, you actually have an aware session with you unconsious. Or through it to your prostate, as you will figure out later in this post. This means that you can trigger responses that are usually only controlled by your unconsious.Huh? An "...aware session with your unconsious." What the heck does that mean? The spellingnazi's are holding a gun to my head to point out that you could have used the built in spellcheck feature to correct the erroneous spelling for unconscious. It doesn't matter though because unconscious doesn't control anything it is merely a state of being, i.e. unconscious = not conscious. Now the subconscious on the other hand, well, that's active and influencing our behaviors 24/7 but even that does not control the autonomic nervous system. - and breathing is actually a subconsious process that you can also control consiously.Wow, scientific breakthrough, all those people who want to commit suicide can just suffocate themselves by consciously stopping their breathing, that would put an end to a lot of messy 'ends'.
And given the amount of data and pre-programmed responses to stimuli that your subconsious controls this opens a huge world of things you can re-program. You`re prostate is one of them - and I do believe this is what us aneros users call "to awaken the prostate".OK, where's the data? What pre-programmed responses? What type of stimulation? I would like to see any evidence for this, has anyone been able to reprogram the heart to perform a different function other than pump blood or the prostate to perform a different function like breathing? I think not. Come on Alex, get real.

1. Yup, you got it.2. It was indeed supposed to say subconsious - good thing you understood that......
3. You cut the sentence to early. The amount of data I refer to is everything you store in your brain conscious and subconscsious. Pre programmed responses of the subconscious i.e. if you burn yourself on your finger your hand withdraws it. If you get scared your subconscious tells your adrenal gland to go to work. And you misunderstand - I`m not saying we can reprogram one bodypart to do something it might not have been designed to do. With that said, you probably already know wich parts of your body that infact could have been a girls ovaries if your cromosones ended up being a double X instead.

I don`t use spellchecks, simply because I feel I learn better english not using it. I`d like to see how well you write Norwegian though - even with a spellcheck 🙂

Calm down, guys! The truth is that nobody really knows how this all works, but it's certainly fun doing the research. 😉

GOLD MEDAL!!! 🙂 Smartest reply of the day!

@Rumel

Yup, some disagreement is bound to happen as long as there is no proven fact on how this really works.
All I can say is that I made my own theory on this subject/field based on my own knowledge of how the human body works, how it develops from conception and how evolution has created/affected us.

Has anyone else noticed that time goes by unreasonably fast while anerosing? More so than what it does when your spanking the good ol` monkey?

And to everyone here... I`m expecting people to disagree with me. I don`t feel bad if you do, you are all entitled to your own opinion/theory based on your own knowledge and experiences. People choose what they want to believe based on all kinds of things - I don`t want to change your beliefs.
I only want to share my theory of how it works so that, maybe, someone may benefit from it - or at a later time use it 🙂

Alex

I am quite surprised by the response to Alex_xxx search for answers. It has been said elsewhere on other topics that if the subject is 'annoying' don't read or respond to it. I don't quite see it the way he does, I have little knowledge of the various level of human consciousness but I do feel there is a deep mind that hold me in this dimension of time and space. I also feel there is a closer mind that influences and interprets my life in such a way that I can live it. Now with this post I feel that it is possible to open the gateway a little and allow the deep mind to add extra quality to my life. It has also occurred to me that any orgasm is an altered state of consciousness and that is why we can move to easily back into our non orgasmic life. So to my old mind it seems as if one can actually move into a deeper orgasmic state. So this is why I am enjoying this particular post.

Indeed, indeed. In the 50's science could prove bumblebees were incapable of flight. Doctors today get interested when we tell of Benifits of aneros, without drugs & surgery, it seems they've forgotten the old ways. Leaches were in then out and now coming back for certain Benifits. We know something good is happening, okay so maybe some of the details aren't clear as to why/how it all works. I love a good mystery, especially this one. I'm gonna stick around till we figure it all out! I hope it takes a long time, what a great ride!

I'm kinda suprised by all the negative feedback on this thread. Whether you agree with the OP or not there is no need for others to get all upset. As @isvara said if its not your thing dont respond, but i would hate for this place to become a forum where someone is afraid to post something in fear that people are going to jump all over them and make fun of them. I'm not sure where everyone is from, but im from The United States of America where we pride ourselves in sticking up for everyone having their say, their voice being heard whether we agree with it or not! So lets be civil to one another and as my grandmother used to say, if you aint got nothing nice to say.......well you know the rest lol.

@Alex_xxx
I find your original OP very interesting. It's all I've had time to read for now. I do appreciate the approach you are taking. I find a great scientific mind valuable. You're not content with the, "We don't know the answer in the gap, let's fill in the bridge with . . . (insert theory)". At this time, I really have nothing further to add to expand on the original OP. I will do so when I have more time.
I have to say though, that your link between subconscious and hypnosis to control and understand certain aspects intrigues me. To say that a conscious re-wirring is not the answer may be true, but I also feel there is merit to conditioning. I am 100 percent sure that with enough time, I can condition my girl to have an orgasm by mere vocal command. I have done so in the past with another. Is this conscious or subconscious? It is a hard call for me to make, especially since I can tell her exactly what I'm doing, and using the proper technique, it will still work. I liken this conditioning aspect to a similar, albeit different, type of hypnosis. I understand it's not an exact parallel. I'm simply saying that two techniques can be used to achieve results in certain elements. If that's making any sense.
One other thought, in the book Radical Ecstasy, Dossie Easton and Janet Hardy explain a concept of "forever space". They describe that when orgasmic peaks and valleys occur at regular intervals, we become so absorbed in the sensations and heightened awareness of our own pleasure that all time and outside matter seems to dissolve. When the focus is so intense on ourselves and our lovers, nothing else seems to matter. Since this pleasure can last for hours, the perception of time seems to detach. I believe this is why you feel that a 6 hour session feels like an hour. I've had this happen as well. I've been in the midst of a 3 hour session, but all I remember are the orgasms. Easton and Hardy also mention that when they are together, and their sessions lead them to the forever space, that they have to make a conscious choice to return from the forever space. After all, it feels so good, why would anyone want to return to a world of stress and bills and other such matters? Much as there is a journey to get to that space, there is a cooling down of sorts to return. It is a choice that has to be in at the very least conscious awareness.
Again, when I have more time to reflect and read more responses, I would be glad to share and enjoy in this conversation.

Interesting theory, Alex, and ambitious. And like any theory, needs to be peer reviewed, criticized, and revised with facts. Only you can revise your own theory and still claim it as yours, Alex, so I suggest that you consider respectfully any contrary facts that others may offer to help you and not dismiss them without analyzing them thoroughly in this forum that you've chosen. There is a difference between theory and proven facts. You can choose your theory but you can't choose your facts.

I've also noticed the trance like quality of some aneros sessions sessions that you mention, and called them alterred states and feeling lost in an erotic dream, especially after my 4th and 5th hour. I suggest reading Trances People Live - Healing Approac hs in Quantum Psychology by Steven Wolinski. He theorized that people go in and out of trances all the time, and aren't usually aware of this. He gives the example of watching a bunny and swooning into a trance for a moment. He theorized that there are degrees of the trance state from the bunny trance to deep hypnosis and we can teach ourselves to be aware of this phenomenon and use it to our advantage.

You then say:

"1. The prostate is subconsiously controlled (and reacts to stimuly to provide people with relief of BMs)."

Firstly, I believe that the control of our BMs is learned at an early age during toilet training, and only later becomes subconscious.

I don't agree that the prostate is ONLY controlled by the subconscious as the article Understanding Your Body referenced here in another post, makes clear: " The neural bundle that is responsible for arousal and orgasm passes directly across and is adhered to the surface of the prostate. So in this sense it is not the gland itself that produces orgasm, it is the nerves."

It's the relationship between our nervous system around the perineum and prostate and other pleasure centers, and our mind that makes this kind of orgasm possible. I agree that our minds are the essential factor here but not the only factor. The aneros device assists with the stimulation of the nerves along with other erotic sensory input that we have learned turns us on, all somehow seem to sometimes result in a super O or other O. One theory stated here is that we can train our subconscious mind to recognize these signals, identify them with the super O, and then reproduce them eventually at will, just like learning to hold and choose when to evacuate a BM.

I agree that the prostate is influenced by our autonomic nervous system, and perhaps can come under subconscious control as you suggest but it's the brain's/mind's learning of the stimulus/response connections, assisted by the aneros training wheels, that may shape our subconscious mind. IMO the trance part that you refer to, is only an alterred state of consciousness leading up to the orgasm, reliably produced by the factors I've listed above, and then learned by our subconscious mind

You go on to say " IF the prostate is the male version of what should have become the female G-spot, then the process of becoming a physical man will have totally disconnected your prostate." This is a BIG if. Where did you hear this?

And about the subconscious altering DNA, again where is your proof?

As for other respondents to your posts and those criticizing it, didn't you yourself welcome the criticism and isn't that what this forum is for? Or is it for only agreement?

And as for memories of past lives recovered through hypnotic regression, there is no proof of this. I have friends who have undergone hypnotic regression and discovered what they believed were past lives and I happen to believe them. But that's a long way from me saying that hypnotic regression is a scientific tool and past lives are real. Remember the Satanic Ritual abuse scare of a few years ago which began with a few social workers putting school children under hypnosis and planting all kinds of suggestions that were taken seriously by the Media and courts until it was all debunked.


When you wrote about the unconscious recording past lives and earlier forms of life like amphibians, I assume you're referring to Jung's concept of the Unconscious (Jung always capitalized the Unconscious) which corresponds to the Akashic record, and not Freud's unconscious which was more limited. While I have read almost everything that Jung has written, I do not take everything he said as fact and neither should you. There is no evidence that that t he unconscious mind has recorded the unproven assumption that men's prostate was once a woman's vagina.

@Alex_xxxI find your original OP very interesting. It's all I've had time to read for now. I do appreciate the approach you are taking. I find a great scientific mind valuable. You're not content with the, "We don't know the answer in the gap, let's fill in the bridge with . . . (insert theory)". At this time, I really have nothing further to add to expand on the original OP. I will do so when I have more time.
I have to say though, that your link between subconscious and hypnosis to control and understand certain aspects intrigues me. To say that a conscious re-wirring is not the answer may be true, but I also feel there is merit to conditioning. I am 100 percent sure that with enough time, I can condition my girl to have an orgasm by mere vocal command. I have done so in the past with another. Is this conscious or subconscious? It is a hard call for me to make, especially since I can tell her exactly what I'm doing, and using the proper technique, it will still work. I liken this conditioning aspect to a similar, albeit different, type of hypnosis. I understand it's not an exact parallel. I'm simply saying that two techniques can be used to achieve results in certain elements. If that's making any sense.
One other thought, in the book Radical Ecstasy, Dossie Easton and Janet Hardy explain a concept of "forever space". They describe that when orgasmic peaks and valleys occur at regular intervals, we become so absorbed in the sensations and heightened awareness of our own pleasure that all time and outside matter seems to dissolve. When the focus is so intense on ourselves and our lovers, nothing else seems to matter. Since this pleasure can last for hours, the perception of time seems to detach. I believe this is why you feel that a 6 hour session feels like an hour. I've had this happen as well. I've been in the midst of a 3 hour session, but all I remember are the orgasms. Easton and Hardy also mention that when they are together, and their sessions lead them to the forever space, that they have to make a conscious choice to return from the forever space. After all, it feels so good, why would anyone want to return to a world of stress and bills and other such matters? Much as there is a journey to get to that space, there is a cooling down of sorts to return. It is a choice that has to be in at the very least conscious awareness.
Again, when I have more time to reflect and read more responses, I would be glad to share and enjoy in this conversation.

Great post! We think alike in alot of aspects. I`ve heard of the voice command orgasms you refer to, and there is alot of different situations you can apply the same "conditioning" to. Have you ever read "the october man"? If not, you should. Send me a PM if you can`t find it.

And as for memories of past lives recovered through hypnotic regression, there is no proof of this. I have friends who have undergone hypnotic regression and discovered what they believed were past lives and I happen to believe them. But that's a long way from me saying that hypnotic regression is a scientific tool and past lives are real. Remember the Satanic Ritual abuse scare of a few years ago which began with a few social workers putting school children under hypnosis and planting all kinds of suggestions that were taken seriously by the Media and courts until it was all debunked.


When you wrote about the unconscious recording past lives and earlier forms of life like amphibians, I assume you're referring to Jung's concept of the Unconscious (Jung always capitalized the Unconscious) which corresponds to the Akashic record, and not Freud's unconscious which was more limited. While I have read almost everything that Jung has written, I do not take everything he said as fact and neither should you. There is no evidence that that t he unconscious mind has recorded the unproven assumption that men's prostate was once a woman's vagina.

I have read some of Jungs works, I actually have his book "Dreams" on my shelf.As for instinct and reptiles it was purely a way of conveying that instinct must be some form of memories through evolution stored in our DNA from one generation to another. And what I proposed was that this might be what people are tapping into when doing ultra-deep regression hypnosis.

There was a show on TV where they investigated alot of cases where people were taken back to "earlier lives" through hypnosis. And to my astonishment, they were able to find houses, people down to great detail being correct from one different peoples detailed description under regression hypnosis.

It was when pondering this I came up with the theory that the DNA we pass down through the generations may contain detailed information of such memories. Memories that then also will be grounds for instinct. Instinct is after all controlled by the subconsious, and this tells me that the subconsious might be able to tap into our DNA information. So, even though it might be far-fetched, I think this is what`s happening during regression hypnosis. Hypnosis is communicating with the subconsious, and if it`s already able to read memories from the DNA - then why not memories from our grand-grand-grand fathers.

I always enjoy talking to others who are intrigued by Freud, Jung and such. And I agree, it`s up to us all do dissect the information given in a proper manner.

Alex

@euphemistic

Hmm.. read the two post I wrote above this one. And I will later in this post present the latest info done on the G-spot and the Prostate - they are similar, VERY similar - almost down to a button. And along with other information I`m working on I will present how theese parts have been seperated through our first 0-8 weeks in our mothers wombs. Along with other things taking place like the seperation between the ovaries that compares to the male testicles etc.

I don't agree that the prostate is ONLY controlled by the subconscious as the article Understanding Your Body referenced here in another post, makes clear: " The neural bundle that is responsible for arousal and orgasm passes directly across and is adhered to the surface of the prostate. So in this sense it is not the gland itself that produces orgasm, it is the nerves.

I don`t think I ever wrote that, because I don`t believe so either. I also agree with alot of the information given in the article about the bond between the different nerve bundles/centers and how they work together to produce the orgasm.