My Orgasm Tecqunique

Congratulations BoP. You've independently almost discovered the so-called Male Deer exercise. And many of us here will agree, this is indeed a terrific way to experience an on-going very intense state of orgasmic pleasure. If you place the thumb of your other hand over the top side of the base of your penis, and use your remaining fingers to gently push your scrotum backwards, then you've basically got the MD exercise.

Once you've got going, try moving your massaging hand further up your body little by little towards your chest. You'll find that with practice you can draw the pleasure up your body and even up to your head. This is what we call the Extended Male Deer Exercise (EMD) which you'll find described on the Aneros Wiki page.

You have a great advantage discovering yourself while so young, BoP; I wish I had been where you are at now forty years ago! And all this self cultivation is great for your health too.

Thanks for your response GrandTiger. I am happy to see people already in to this I hope I got this information earlier, since I spent endless hours experimenting trying to get these techniques. I did lots of research and could not find anything. I am able to move the pleasure in the way you describe it 🙂 I wanted to offer sort of first steps to people that never experienced it.

I do feel great about exploring this while being young and wish everyone would do the same since it is such an amassing experience. On the other hand I think we come across things when we are mentally ready, and that is different for every person.

I do have few more tricks I use to orgasm 🙂 one of them needs no stimulation at all and it's not KSMO, that is separate. This is based on calling on a pleasurable feeling and then multiplying it in your body by sort of expressing it and after few waves it is possible to multiply it to an orgasm this one very different and really causes allot of contractions in the entire body. It is very difficult to describe and point out how to call on the feelings and expand them as they come but I will try to explain it sometime down the road. Maybe someone already posted about this .

Tanks again for your response.

That sounds awesome BoP. Thanks for sharing it. I must practice calling on the pleasurable feeling as you say with no manual stimulation at all. What you say makes sense because it is often said that all the pleasure really happens in the brain. It seems I still have a long way to go, which is good because this journey just keeps on getting better!

Hope it works for you, but I was sometimes frustrated since I can get close but could not make it. If you practiced KSMO then you would have a clue oh what in general good feeling with no stimulation is.
KSMO in my opinion causes allot of stress on the body since you get allot of pressure with diaphragm.

In general try to express an orgasm without even having it you will notice that when you express an orgasm your body sort off puts itself in to gear and although you are not having an orgasm you will see that you bend a little or roll your eyes maybe change your breathing. You might notice contractions in your bely or vibrations , you will see that your body is reacting to you just showing off orgasm, trick is that your body would begin to give you pleasure since you express it.Now you will feel some good feelings, they might fade quickly but will likely come back. This is where you come in and at first try to notice what is the source of that pleasure.

Look for contractions you amplify them little move your body, and you will see what it leads to. I had two of these orgasms as I am typing this just to explain it better. For me it seems that as I call on that feeling of pleasure by just physically showing orgasm I tend to tense my lower belly and bend my spine also get some vibration deep at the base of my penis. As I go deeper in to the feeling I tend to tense even more and contractions all over my body begin to happen and eventually really good strong orgasms come in, I do feel like moving allot and the fact that this comes out your body purely is amassing.

This can sound scarry but I had experience where I could not stop these contractions, or at least I felt felt that way. I had zero effort in helping my body orgasm it was moving itself, I was just relaxed in orgasmic contractions. It is better to lay down for this =).

When you come out of an orgasm like this you can feel vibration for some time and even keep on contracting some muscles or drop in to another "O" within 20-40minutes easily. The longer the orgasm the longer the after effect.

Please let me know how this works for you. 🙂

I also want to ask if you had dry-multiples with penile stimulation?

Some great posts here boP, and GT...
I am always willing to try something new and exciting.

BoP, I have been experimenting with penile touch, but I dont know about true stimulation without a wet orgasm.

I have different ways of touching my penis and can still have dry-orgasms. I have a trigger-spot at the top of my penis, that instantly starts super-O, I can have these with or without an Aneros.

I am new to KSMO, and it has started to have some affect as well, but I am still new at KSMO.
I am very interested in your modified extended deer type area you mention, but still need a picture... 🙄

I have tried different things around this area you describe, and have had some great feelings, but still new at that also. I really wish they allowed some type of picture or drawings on this site, because descriptions sometime are very hard to understand. Maybe that is just me. LOL...

Hey skeeter_g.

I will edit my post a bit to explain it better tomorrow.

I am working on dry-multiples with regular penile stimulation I am getting good orgasms but it involves monitoring contractions you get as you prepare to ejaculate. You can spread them in to your upper body and penis becomes amassing way to get multiples. I am not solid on this yet and still working on it. So idea is that you do not get these contractions at all if you spread them and if you do not get them you will not ejaculate as you orgasm.

i think this works for skinny people, since fatter people have a larger amount of fat in that area.

I would not cut off ability to have orgasms from this by fat level, it's all in the mind for the most part. Every body is capable of feeling this, some get it faster than others.

Thanks BoP,

I have been trying to do a slight stimulation of the Penis also and still have the great O's...
Like you, not yet, but I'am getting better. I still need to adjust my feelings and mind more.
My Trigger spot is actually helping me to do this, but I did accidentally go over the edge today with a wet orgasm, and I still was not even hard. wow what a long wonderful orgasm.
The refractory period was almost non existent also, which was interesting.

Skeeter g,

Is the trigger point on your penis over the frenulum? I've been working with the frenulum for several years now with very pleasurable results. Others on this board have found a trigger point lower down on the shaft (check the wiki or glossary). I'd like to learn about accupressure points on the penis.

BoP,
Your technique sounds similar to the external prostate massage posted here a while back. What's cool is that you found it yourself. Exploring the mysteries of our bodies and getting in touch is where it's at. Kudos.

Eric

Hey BigE.
External Prostate massage is preformed on the belly I suggest stimulating area at the base of the penis in pubic area, not the penis itself though. These are two different things.

This is based on calling on a pleasurable feeling and then multiplying it in your body by sort of expressing it and after few waves it is possible to multiply it to an orgasm this one very different and really causes allot of contractions in the entire body. It is very difficult to describe and point out how to call on the feelings and expand them as they come but I will try to explain it sometime down the road. Maybe someone already posted about this.

Not that I know of but I would have soon 😉 I have mentally been composing the following for some time as a new thread. It may be pertinent to your thread, if you don't mind, BoP.

I have recently escalated my Aneros sessions to new heights by quietly, repeatedly and deeply intoning "E__C__S__T__A__S__Y" as the pleasure kicks in. More than that, whilst intoning I 'know' inside what the word means, I feel what the word means and feel more and more the ecstasy generated by the Aneros. I become ecstasy. As the pleasure (ecstasy) amplifies I change the 'mantra' to O__R__G__A__S__M and LO! orgasms ensue 😀 and I 'become' orgasm.

Whilst I haven't (yet...) been down the KSMO route I suspect that the pitch at which I am intoning my words may be close to the Key Sound. I don't know though.

So, the way I see it, there are three things at work:

1) the resonance of my voice which in itself generates vibration which I can feel around my pubis and the Aneros,

2) the words themselves which generate & amplify, respectively, the two sensations, and finally,

3) saying the words, feeling the words, knowing the words provides a different sort of focus to just focussing on a localised sensation or Aneros action, (and also helps to keep mind chatter at bay).

Switching between the two words or even amalgamating them into a nonsense composite ramps up the pleasure to almost unbearable levels.

Intoning the name of a certain young lady, the unknowing object of my (fantasy) desires, has a similar, but much more sexy, effect. 😈

Have fun!

Old Wolf

old wolf, that sounds great.

on a slightly less elevated note, i tried BoP's stroke. it was fantastic. i did just what he described (i think). i layed my palm flat on my belly so my three fingers were at the bottom of my pubic region, at the base of my penis. then i did the come-hither stroke, pulling up whatever skin came along. you need to play a little to adjust the stroke and location for your body. i needed to clip my fingernails. i also tried albolene in my pubes to smooth the stroke, but it didn't do much.

anyway, i found it to be a very powerful and lovely way to stimulate the external prostate spot.

so now we know of three ways:
- GT's extended male deer
- the various ways described on the external prostate massage site http://www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/
- BoP's bop.

No problem at all Old Wolf! I as everyone else on this forum am looking for more ways to get to those orgasms. At one point I realized that there are allot of different types of them and found number of ways to get there.
KSMO from my perspective does the following: as you begin to say the sound witch is based around "aa" you try to say it through you belly and do not extend your chest, you do this by pooping out your belly this forces your chest to tens up more than usual in order to push the air out since your lungs expand downwards in to relaxed diaphragm. Then as you finish the keysound and increase it's intensity you again forces even more air out of your body but your diaphragm and belly remain relaxed so you build up a ton of pressure in your chest in order to push the air out. You get vibration with this pressure
and vibration is enough to orgasm =). KSMO does work well I am using it sometimes although I feel that pressure is at some point not comfortable, and other types of orgasms feel relaxed compared to this one.
I will try what you offered and see what happens. Also I described mental type of orgasm and how to achieve it right below the post you quoted, hope it is in some way usefully.

darwin! I am Happy that what I described helped you get somewhere good =). I always take guides as general idea and try to explore around since we are all different, so if you got the pleasure flowing you got it right! 🙂

BigE,

Yes the trigger spot is over the frenulum. I cannot be any closer to the head if I wanted to be.. 🙂
My finger just fits into the little V shape of the head perfectly.

Because the penis is usually soft at that time, I have the penis up toward my belly with the pointer finger doing the touch, and the other fingers braced on my belly. I never press very hard on the spot, as I do not want to do injury to my penis, but I have found a good balance of pressure when I touch that area. I almost always start a super-O immediately.
I am trying to balance the touch and dry-O's as much as possible. I'm learning and hope to fully perfect the technique.

An interesting observation: I have noticed, that as long as I stay soft, I usually can have multiple dry orgasms, that are very, very hot, and make me whimper endlessly with pleasure... If I start to get a hardon as I continue to touch, I may end up with a regular ejaculation and end the session prematurely, not that that super-T does not feel incredible and usually is 5 to 6 times longer than a normal ejaculation.

Oh, I also have a couple other ways of touch I like:

1. I just cup the head of my penis with three fingers gently touching, holding, but not to much pressure. Feels wonderful, but not as good as my trigger spot, but I can have dry orgasms with no problem.

2. I hold my hand palm down with thumb and pointer finger spread apart, setting between my balls and penis "touching gently" on my thigh.. that is a very hot touch spot, and also gives me dry orgasms.

I do enjoy nipple stimulation, but that is a newer form of touch for me, and I'm still learning to get the feelings centered.

I have read some of the other information like you mention in the forum and wiki, thanks so much.

This is cool ! I enjoy so much seeing everyone give out ideas on how to get the "O"! =) in different ways. In fact I am going to create a post where I will go in detail on to my techniques of orgasming without aneros, and will keep it up to date. I hope some of you will join me on this. 🙂

I tried the trigger spots just like you describe them Skeeter_g they do work and I was able to get to those orgasms 🙂 . So thanks! For the most part I get erections very easily I assume because I am young but even with solid erection I was able to stimulate it without getting in to regular orgasm.

On separate note:
I was with few friends of mine that started talking about how females are so gifted and can have multiple orgasms while males are "stuck" with their ejaculation, this was more like a joke since females were present. I do not even attempt to tell people like this what I know for the most part I would end up being a crazy fella, but I stood there nodding and was thinking how little people know about what they believe. Then I thought again what do I know? What if my beliefs can be as foolish all around...

Hey BoP,

It funny you mentioning about being with friends and not saying anything.. I was also with some good friends yesterday I have known for years, and we always joke about ejaculation and use of the hand... This time I was joking back and said I don't need my hand anymore.. but did not go into detail, but one day it may come out. 🙂

I 'm glad you tried the trigger spot... way cool to hear you could hit the spot and not have a regular orgasm... why not have something new in the arsenal. 😀 I think if you continue to use the spot, the feeling may get stronger and stronger as time goes by, very much like a person that is new to nipple stimulation.

By the way, I do use the trigger spot with the Aneros, and without, and also will get erections from time to time when I hit the spot, so I am not always soft. 😀

Iam going back to read your post again on the spot at the pubic bone area and penis.. I tried a couple things this AM and found an area with some great feelings and it may have been the area you described.

The other day I was playing with both my frenulum spot and the penis trigger simultaniously(without aneros). I've also found that the frenulum spot is very sensitive when soft, but for me is best when partially erect. I've know for a long time that the penis shaft tissue extends deep into our bodies and that most of us only stimulate the obvious part that is on the outside. I was exploring and found a nice trigger point for this portion of the penis at the point where my testicles attach at the perinium.

When I'm getting close to the point of orgasm while working these trigger points without the aneros, I concentrate on my breath and gently, repeat gently sqeeze my anus. This is very similar to the Taoist Big Draw, but with much less force. For me this brings the prostate into action and helps disperse the energy.

Really appreciate the openess of this discussion. Thanks

BoP,
I went back to your original post and was checking the technique for the BoP BOP.. LOL..

This AM I decided to try it again, and understand you description perfectly now. Wow!! worked great!!
I understand what you mean by being more of a deeper internal feeling... I really like it alot... 😀

This morning session I was doing a lot of my standard no-Aneros orgasms, then decided to add the Eupho to the mix.. When I added the Eupho, I started to also stimulate with the BoP BOP, Holy Crap!!
I felt like I was getting fucked two different ways at the same time.
I was whimpering and making so much noise I had to put a pillow over my mouth...I was really whimpering for this one, and making a single growl/grunt every couple of seconds..

As the session had already lasted over an hour or so, and I need to get some hunny-do's done for the day (Wife at work), I let my body go for the Super-T... I went with your suggestion to just go at a slow pace with the BOP...Oh my God!!! I had a T for almost 3 minutes, and was yelling, and crying...

Man oh Man... just thinking about it gets my involuntaries going again.. 😀 Thanks Man!!

yeah, i have to agree, that spot near the penis base is super powerful.

i tried it in a new position, on my side. that was really awesome.

darwin

skeeter_g I am extremely happy to see you have this experience, I feel in many ways the same you got it right 😀 , cheers!!!!

Thanks for giving it a try despite little confusing explanation.

Glad you enjoy it as well darwin =)

Hi BoP,
Thanks for the tip. I tried your technique and it worked like a charm. It took some concentrating but it felt like I was going to cum and when I did, to my surprise it was dry. What was even better, when done with the Aneros, it pulled my focus back to an orgasm. Sometimes when using my Helix, its working well and doing exactly what it's suppose to but I am some how detached. I know there is an orgasm going on but its like there is a loose connection between my head and my bum. Sometimes I can hardly feel it happening. I used your technique when the Helix was in and next thing I know I'm off to an incredible Super O. I can't wait to experiement some more!

Thanks for that Bop. I will go and try it now as I am having no real success with the Aneros. Will let you know how it goes, hope for more than the Aneros.
Slappy

BOP. Thanks for that. Have tried it and experienced some very nice feelings, but no orgasm. Weather doing this or using the aneros, I have trouble getting and mainyaining an erection. Coulod this be the problem in no achieving an orgasm.
The sensations started in the pubic area, and before long I was tingling all over, even in the tips of my fingers and toes. I am desparate to achieve some long intense orgasms, so I will try again now. Any advice welcome.
SLAPPY

As I said yesterday, I got very nice tingling sensations all over first time. However, I seen to have lost it since. I tried first thing this morning,,,,,nothing. The ppubic bone is like a mound. Where do you find it the most sensitive to stimulation, going up the hill, on the brow of the hill, or on the way down the othrside.
Slappy

Greetings BoP!

I have been practicing your technique since you first posted this thread
and I gotta say . . . "It Rocks."

Darwin is right; you have to adjust the location, rub, speed and with me the number of fingers seem to vary! As with most techniques,
you have to tweak it to you own body . . .

I felt I had to say something at this point, cause it's getting better and better! P-Waves, contractions and some kind of low-level Orgasms!
(but these O's are getting stronger with using it)???

Intriguing to see where this ultimately leads!

I always find that one's Journey has many branches shooting off from the main Path! It is fun to explore different techniques
and nuances along the way . . .

Enjoy the Journey, ALL!

Later, Hlaser99

Hi BoP,

I just had to say your orgasm technique is awesome! It's so simple and yet so powerful. Thanks so much for so sharing it.

I noticed GrandTiger comparing it to the taoist classic Male Deer Exercise, which makes sense in that that they both are stimulating the same hot spot at the base of the penis. However, I've known about the MD since I was teenager and was never able to get much out of it. After reading the instructions in your post, I gave them a try and was AMAZED by the results. I've never really gotten any orgasmic sensations from that specific hot spot before, but within minutes of using your technique I was experiencing intense orgasms, one after the other, and continued to do so for the next hour until I simply didn't want anymore.

The orgasms themselves were pretty much exactly as you described, very physically "active," and penile centered. I noticed an especially delightful, continuous ejaculation-like tingling sensation that was absolutely mind-blowing. It makes it so easy to keep going from one orgasm to the next. It's simply amazing!

So I found myself wondering why your technique works so well for me but not the MD exercise. After a little experimentation, I figured out that it's the pressure provided by the thumb in the MD, versus the three finger tip massage you recommend. For me, the use of the finger tips makes all the difference. If I hadn't stumbled onto your post, and tried it your way, I probably never would have noticed how incredibly orgasmic that spot can be. And to think all these years it's been right here, under my nose...

Anyway, thanks again BoP. Your post has reminded me that sometimes it's the slightest of changes in a technique that can unlock it's full potential.

Actually, that got me thinking about your description of the Key Sound creating a sensation of uncomfortable pressure in your chest. I thought I'd mention that the Key Sound is meant to be performed only in ways that feel completely comfortable and free from any physical effort or strain.

You might want to re-examine your Key Sound and check to make sure you're not straining or forcing it in any way. When done correctly, even a very quiet and gentle Key Sound can create huge results, without any physical pressure required. But whether loud or whisper-quiet it should always feel comfortable. Remember, if it's not comfortable, it's not the Key Sound!

😉

Hello Pan, hlaser99, O'shea and slappy.

You have no idea how happy I am that you guys enjoy it!!! 😀

Pan thanks for your advice on reexamining KS I am coming back to it overtime and I am able to get full body orgasms out of it. The way I look at it is every type of stimulation produces different orgasms in different areas and so I use number of techniques to get there depending on my mood. I in some way feel that KS orgasm is similar to the orgasms I can have without any stimulation. Compared to this orgasm KS feels more tense, you tend to get allot of tension with KS so I do not experience uncomfortable feelings but it feels like it needs force, while I can get there without it, hope you understand what I mean. This is my personal point of view and experience.

Now about the "BoP's bop" as it was named here on forums and I kind of like it :). What you describe is right to the point and I can for sure say you are there we are definetly going along the same line in the description. I also found that it is interesting to start stimulation slow and while you will feel the need to add more stimulation at times to drop in to an orgasm try to keep going at same slow pace. You will find that as you reach an orgasm you do not drop in to in but it sort of kicks off and it feels much deeper.
What I also like it that after you drop in to an orgasm you can keep going and going by just doing slow movements or even holing in place with your hand. I found this by accident when I was discovering it if you are aggressive pubic area will get "tiered" and you will have to stop. So in general I try to be very slow and gentle.
Sometimes it feels as if you lost that orgasm momentum and will have to take a short break, although I sometimes do take a break and move around it feels great to get back in few minutes, in reality it is extremely hard to loose orgasmic momentum after you got it going. What happens is a drop in pleasure since it comes in waves, you will notice this , I found that as you stay in pleasure for some time you kind of get used to it and lower levels seem little dull in to the session. There are patterns in these orgasms if you pay attention and you drop in to low pleasure wave zones over time so I found that after about 20-30 minutes low zones seem to feel like I am not feeling any orgasmic pleasure but in reality I compared to my normal state after few experiments and found that I just got used to allot of pleasure and do not seem to notice low zones. So if you hit this low zone keep you stimulation going at slow pace and you will see that you get another set of waves coming. Orgasms do get more intense as you serf them.

hlaser99 what I would like to suggest to you is to notice how your body reacts in your normal orgasmic response and allow it to react in similar way to this type of stimulation. I think this pleasure is very similar to what you experience while ejaculating and overall response seems to follow through I do not get any contractions. If you isolate pleasure above penis when you ejaculate with orgasm and remove contractions this would be somewhat close to this orgasm the only thing is it roll and rolls and rolls ... I offer this because as I practiced gettings milti-dry-orgasms with penile stimulation I found that in order not to ejaculate I need to spread tension that leads to ejaculation in p-floor so as I started doing that I had no contractions there and reached similar orgasm only difference is you get to feel it in the penis and that is worth it =).

slappy I am also following with you on this I did have allot of pleasurable feelings as I practiced this and they never felt like anything booming, main thing is to allow your body to react in the same way it reacts to penile stimulation only difference is as it begins to react you will see it will not lead you in to ejaculation it will keep your bottom part alone and will not build pressure to ejaculate. I feel that there is no need to do allot of changes in the way you respond to stimulation, as lets say while using aneros.

I will be honest with you I found this method by assuming that if females have clit in about that location males would have something similar, here is where hand position came from and if you watch female masturbating she would do it about the same way. It turned out to be one of my primary orgasm methods and I love it so much !

O'shea! Yes I had that experience few times when I thought I was about to have ejaculation but I just got an "O" and loosing track of time and pace and self is part of the game here. I feel I loose myself due to almost no effort from my side to keep myself orgasming it lets me have all my attention pointing it only to this orgasm, so with full attention somewhat blurred by the intensity of the joy I look around, look at my orgasming body and I must say I do feel like it is sort of detached for "me". So I had similar experiense, glad you enjoy it as well

thanks for your feedback guys, I appreciate it!

{hlaser99 what I would like to suggest to you is to notice how your body reacts in your normal orgasmic response and allow it to react in similar way to this type of stimulation. I think this pleasure is very similar to what you experience while ejaculating and overall response seems to follow through I do not get any contractions. If you isolate pleasure above penis when you ejaculate with orgasm and remove contractions this would be somewhat close to this orgasm the only thing is it roll and rolls and rolls ... I offer this because as I practiced gettings milti-dry-orgasms with penile stimulation I found that in order not to ejaculate I need to spread tension that leads to ejaculation in p-floor so as I started doing that I had no contractions there and reached similar orgasm only difference is you get to feel it in the penis and that is worth it =). }

BoP,

I think that at this point I can't help but contract or my body can't help but contract in response to the sweet and delicate waves of orgasms that roll-in! Of course, I will add this element into my practice, to see the results!

I now find that most of the time, I don't have to move my finger or fingers at all! Just place a finger there and it rolls-in! I even tried using my smallest of 4 Peridise units as a finger replacement and it worked beautifully! Also, I have a small indentation in my pubic area above the penis base, that I can slip a finger in . . . kind of like (as you say) the way a female slides her finger down to her clit???

If I am not erect, I can even slide the Peridise in a small ways and it will stay there! (You are then hands-free, till you want to go back an move the Peridise to stim again)

Seems like this area works with about anything that will fit in this groove for me, but of course you always have your fingers, don't you???

Thanks again!

Hlaser99