My journey-gctid10048

May have experienced my first ever mini p-wave.
Was riding with the Helix, generally doing nothing, and felt this weird bubbling in my gut. weird to explain.
I found that breathing fast or deep while using stomach muscles to "squash" my stomach helped a bit. But i mostly just tried to pull the aneros in. Hard to explain.

But when I did that, I ended up with VERY SMALL contractions, and after a while, seemed to build up. Started itching and feeling like i needed to pee, but i carried on. and then that feeling seemed to spread a bit more in my groin and felt weird like my groin was heavy.

Very weird feeling, and it was quite nice too. Heart rate shot up.
Didnt last long unfortunately, but every experience is a new and interesting one.

I honestly don't know if this is even anything like a p-wave. However, it's now the most intense feeling i've so far had with the aneros and prostate play.

Thought about this a bit more. The "bubbling" was more like pulsing, or rather, not really pulsing.
Think about the feeling you get in your finger when you get a wet plate / glass and press down on it and drag your finger across it. If you use enough force, you cant move your finger across the surface. But if you use a little bit less force, your finger jumps across the surface as it loses grip. You can also have the same effect on fabrics, like sometimes on polysatin.

And I had this feeling, on and off, while I was breathing in and out. Will try this again tonight.

HiKeep going as I've been at this for about 1 year and thankfully i am more or less rewired. Just go by your gut instinct, as we are all different. And believe me when I say it is worth it in the end 🙂 The only thing I might add is don't over do it, as it is very addictive and can affect your relationships etc
Good luck Jeffbiguy.

Thanks, Jeffbiguy! 🙂
Planning to have another session tonight. Maybe I will have a repeat of last night, maybe I won't. Any sensation I get from this is a bonus.

So, after chatting with the very helpful @rook and @jd31337 last night, I wonder if all my experiences so far have not been relevant to what the Aneros is supposed to bring on.

First, I can't seem to find my prostate with my fingers. I've used my thumb, then my index finger, then my middle finger, and cant seem to feel anything there that should be the prostate.

Second, I now wonder if i have the wrong Aneros model (I have the Helix Syn and Progasm Ice, but mainly use the Helix) or if my body is weird enough that maybe I dont have a prostate or something.
Every time I use the Helix and do PC contractions, I get the feeling of needing to pee. But then I do actually have to get up from the bed and go to the toilet. Even if I had emptied my bladder before the session.

Third, on @rook's advice, I used a small dildo to try to find the prostate but failed to find it. He said it probably meant that I was not rewired to sense things in there. I thought I was being rewired because of the senstations i've had in the past. I used to think the needing to pee sensation was progress and that is was good and that it felt good. Now I am thinking that it's not the correct feeling and that it's not what I need to feel. I am questioning everything now. Like Doge says in the meme pictures: "very confuse".

Any ideas or suggestions on what I am doing wrong?

I'll be reviewing the Getting Started wiki page again today. I just had a look at the Milestones section... are they supposed to be sequential?
i.e. "Identifiable contact with prostate" - i dont have this. Yet below it is "Doing a set of contractions comfortably", which I can do.

Should I be able to identify contact with prostate before trying to do contractions?

What does it feel like to contact the prostate?

I don't know if I ever have. How will I know? How can I tell if the aneros is making contact with the prostate and not some part near the bladder?

@lonewolf8. I have revisited Mikestones. I can safely say if they are on the road to the Super O, then I am on another road as they don't equate to my experience. I have NOT had a super O yet. I say this because you may not experience the Milestones as written nor in the order they are listed. So don't lose heart if they don't tally with your experience. I think the elusive prostate is just inside the inner sphincter, it is there but all the organs sort of merge. I have a larger prostate but I don't consciously "feel" it as separate. I find I have to swap models to get a response.
Disregard if this is not helpful.

I got depressed about this yesterday, thinking i was not understanding things. After hours of help from a number of great people on the chat, I had a session and experienced some interesting things.

Here's what I wrote on the chat last night after my session:

"hmm. that was a good session. pity i have to end it so soon as i need to sleep and work tomorrow. but I think what @rook and @rumel and @canacan said really helped"

"i think what i experienced was waves of pleasure, that lasted maybe 10 - 20 seconds, then subsides. then sometimes come back on their own, or sometimes i need to restart the process with a few contractions. but it was really weird. i spent some time doing fast + strong pc contractions, tried some nipple play. after a while felt this weird vibration somewhere down there every time i contracted and at the same touched nipple. it's as if one hits a metal shaft and the metal vibrates from theshock. but after a while of that i just did the do nothing approach and just ttried to relax into it"

"and then it was weird. like i was trying to relax but the pleasure was building and building and then subsides. damn. i wanna try that again but i need to sleep :("

I still had to actually pee after the session, and had a full bladder. So hopefully not much of the session's sensations were due to only a full bladder.

I really want to thank @Canacan for the time he took yesterday to talk to me about things. I think his explanation of the "do nothing" and letting the feelings build really helped.
I hope it's not a one-off what I experienced. I may take a break and not do any aneros tonight, maybe let my body adjust. It felt like a tickling pleasure building up. Similar to needing to pee, but kinda different.

@isvara,
Thanks for the tip about the order of the milestones. It doesnt tally up with my experiences but now I know that the order isnt completely fixed.
As for finding the prostate... I am still not sure how to find it with fingers etc. I am not sure what the inner sphincter should feel like. It's one for me to keep investigating and probing.

@lonewolf8, Re prostate, I would just take it that it is there! But search for it for fun. Relax and enjoy.
One of @Canacan's suggested Tantric videos theme was : Non attachment to (orgasmic) outcome, that is, enjoy the breadth of the journey don't fixate on the outcome. I am applying this with excellent results.

So last night I had another session. It was a fairly short one, lasted perhaps 30 - 45 minutes. Fairly similar session as I had on the 24th August I described above. It felt good 🙂 I am definitely noticing positive feelings when playing with nipples and clenching. Though sometimes they feel a bit agitated due to lots of playing. I'm now trying to play with them by putting some lube on my hands and then rubbing, rather than rubbing them dry.

I decided I needed to sleep, so got ready for sleep but left the Helix Syn in me. I've slept with it in me maybe 5 times before, and never gave me any feeling other than "filling" me up.

This time, things were different. The feelings that I get during my actual sessions, continued. And not always there, but as I was breathing trying to sleep, the feelings of needing to pee and some sort of wave feelings kept coming and sometimes some sort of "tapping" feelings, like someone was tapping their fingers on a desk. It was very exciting and totally new to me - never experienced that when trying to sleep. On a couple of occasions, as I was drifting off to sleep, somewhere between consciousness and sleep, the aneros would jerk inside me, giving me a jolt, probably due to my sphincter contracting sharply and things felt buzz-y and nice. I'm still not sure how to pinpoint where the nice feelings physically come from. I didnt seem to sleep much as a result. 🙂

@lonewolf8, I've experienced those pleasant "jolts" back to consciousness in the past, and still do, from time to time. As with you, even though I didn't sleep much, it was still good.

Please ignore

Had the Helix in me last night. Was interesting and pleasant. Not as great as my session from 26 August, but still nice.

There seemed to be a bit of auto-fucking going on, and a few times very hard clenching that I didnt intend to do, which resulted in me feeling as if something was spurting from my cock, but nothing came out.

@rook says this was a Dry-O.... so yay 🙂

While I was trying to sleep (but also having a session 😀 ) there was a moment, where I held a sort of light contraction and found this weird sweet spot and I very carefully and slowly and lightly clenched back and forth and back and forth and it felt like I needed to pee really badly.... and my heart rate shot up like a rocket. That was really fun!

@lonewolf8
Way to go!

You still somehow seem to fail to acknowledge what's happening (like you have some idea of what to expect, which you better not). But hey, as long as it works and you are not frustrated, who cares?

(by the way, I'd say just like @rook here)

What a weird (and pleasurable) night!

To set the stage:

So, yesterday, I had a shortish session with the Helix Syn, and then moved onto the Progasm Ice.
I did mainly just PC contractions with both of them, and didnt want to do the Do Nothing due to having phyiscal pain from an injury.

At some point, with the Progasm, I started contracting harder than I wanted, these so called involuntarily strong contractions, and had some similar feelings to those from 3rd September, which @rook says are Dry-Os. Had two of them. After the first one, had this lingering feeling of needing to pee, after the clenching calmed down. Was quite nice.

During the second of these, I found myself changing the orientation of the Progasm inside me, without really meaning to. If I was to describe it, it would be some sort of push-out while I was still clenching hard. Hmm.. And managed to sortof flutter between the hard-clench and this hard-clench-pushed-out orientation. Quite interesting and felt nice.

So I got hungry and put the toys away, and was doing house stuff for the next 5 hours. Then I had a traditional wet orgasm, and went to bed having taken a painkiller.

Woke up at about 2am to go to pee (having drank a whole glass of water before sleeping), went to bed and tried to sleep.

Here's the weird part:

As I lay in my bed, trying to drift off to sleep, I felt the same "tapping" or "bubbling" feelings (LOL I thought it was trapped gas) as I wrote in my post above on 13th August and last paragraph on 26th August (and I think at one point it felt like I felt my heart pulse down in the pelvic region, maybe on the prostate). I spent a few minutes feeling myself (just to see if i am tapping or twitching externally, not for pleasure :D) and didnt find any part of me that is twitching or tapping. So I continued to try to sleep.

This feeling continued, Aneros-less, and after a while started feeling the need to pee, but also felt duller and some other feeling I cant describe (wasn't pain, but maybe tenderness or pressure?). I was trying to relax to go to sleep, so this feeling grew and i got a bit of a scare (LOL) but still tried to go with it. It faded away because I tensed slightly, but soon enough, the feeling came back.

And this time if felt like dull feeling of needing to pee, with something that I can only describe like "butterflies" feeling you get in your stomach, but it was in my pelvic region. So let it build and it felt good. Had a hard time trying to completely relax, but I was trying as best as I could.

This happened maybe 3 or 4 times, each time lasting maybe 10 - 20 seconds, I really don't know as I didnt count the seconds. I don't know what it was, but it was quite nice, and new experience for me, especially Aneros-less. During one of those events, my heart rate also suddently increased, not sure if due to excitement or if the prostate made it happen.

I don't know if the Progasm did something to me (given that I only use the Helix these days), or if it's just an evolutionary step on my journey regardless of the device I use, I don't know.

What do you think, guys?

Not posted in a while, not had a session in a while due to stupid illness.

Just thought I'd share what happened last night:

I had a short session last night with
the Progasm Ice, and after a while of a mixture of relaxing and gentle
PC contractions, and maybe after what appeared to be a dry-O (PC muscles contracting like I was ejaculating but nothing coming out, lasting maybe a minute?, though at one point I thought I leaked some pee, but there was nothing there...), I was just
breathing and relaxing, watching a porn movie, not clenching at all and all of a sudden I clenched suddently.
No idea where that came from, but it was awesome. Totally unexpected,
only had one and didnt last long.

@brucemarkland calls these "spiky-O"s. The senstation was very short lived, but my PC muscles remained clenched for maybe 30 seconds.

Recently, my sessions with the Progasm Ice, have allowed me to experience a new feeling.

It's hard to put into words.

When I am relaxed and doing Do Nothing,
sometimes I experience a short but quite intense feeling of needing to
pee, with almost a "butterflies" feeling to it, or like some sort of
energy or thing moves with that feeling. It was a more intense feeling than what I wrote on Sept 7th.

Reminds me a bit of when you are really really sleepy but still doing
something and you have that "wake the heck up!" feeling or shiver. It's not a sharp or sudden feeling, but does last maybe 3 or so seconds.

I don't know if this is a good or bad feeling, but it is pleasurable.

Also, in
my last 2 or 3 sessions, i've noticed that sometimes, my abdominal /
stomach muscles tense up. Tense isnt correct. A jerk isnt correct
either. It's more like like a sharp and sudden strong tense (as if i am doing a cough)
and then sudden release of tension in mucles as if nothing ever happened.

I assumed it was either some aneros related spasm much like anal
sphincter spasm.... or just my body trying to balance all the other
forces in the muscles in my body.

@rook says "feels like a gag reflex in the belly rather than in the throat", so from now on I shall call it a "belly gagging".

I had one of these a-less while reading some stuff on the computer - and then I inentionally did the same movement to see what it feels like. It brought upon good feelings in the prostate or groin region.

The senstation appears to be not dangerous or bad. So I shall savour it anytime I get it.

Hi @lonewolf8,

I am glad you are making progress in your sessions. I wish to thank you for telling me that Aless in large measure is like a sine or cosine wave! 🙂

Thom./BigGlansDC

lonewolf8,

Great thread, it's wonderful to read how you've progressed over the last several months. These "butterflies" that you described, if they are occurring
deep in your lower abdomen, this is a very good development indeed. You've connected with some very insightful users so I suspect that you heard many good suggestions by this time. Back in August you used the example of sliding your finger across a plate of glass and the friction that arises from pressing down to relate certain sensation. This brings to mind a conceptual illustration that I wrote about many years ago in describing the use of subtle contractions and how subtle sensations are used to build a Super O.

I'm sure you've been at a dinner somewhere and seen someone take a piece of fine crystal glassware and gently run their finger over the rim until they produce a resonant tone? Strangely enough there are many aspects of this parlor trick that are analogous to generating a Super O. Consider... lubrication, friction, rhythmic motion, pressure, and the resonant amplification of energy.

To generate tone from a glass there is some small preparation necessary that involves wetting your finger. If it's dry, the friction created by your finger passing over the small irregularities in the glass prevents you from achieving a smooth rhythmic motion. From there you press on the rim as you run your finger over it. The trick lies in the amount of pressure that you use, too much pressure and you effectively stop the glass from vibrating, too little pressure and there is not enough friction to create movement in the glass. Once the vibration starts it's a matter of encouraging the resonance by the rhythmic application of more pressure on the rim.

Turning to Aneros sessions, lubrication serves two purposes; it promotes easy insertion and facilitates the movement of the massager. Lubrication reduces friction and lowers surface tension making the Aneros more responsive to our contractions. The application of pressure (contraction) on the Aneros provides a stimulus that we perceive as sensation (a vibration if you will). With the application of more stimuli we are able to build sensation on itself in a resonant fashion similar to creating tone in crystal. Creating a Super O then becomes of matter of tuning into an orgasmic resonant frequency in our bodies and working with it in a synchronous way*. Finding that frequency requires patience, attentiveness, mental focus and a positive attitude. The means of achieving this can be active or passive (depending on the individual). With respect to the latter it should be noted that many users bodies are wired with sensory loops that makes this possible with little or no conscious thought, this is what the Sleeping with Aneros and Do Nothing methods are all about.

All the best in your journey,

BF Mayfield

*Although KSMO uses a different kind of stimulus (sound), the principle that underlies it is essentially the same.

Oh wow.
So I had a 40 minute session with the Helix Syn, watching some porn of this beatuful blonde stripping and then masturbating.

And after a while of just trying various things like clenching, do nothing etc...
I start very lightly clencing and releasing, with a small baseline clench.
And I seem to get the Helix rubbing over some specific point and it feels great.

So I keep doing it, and I have my usual need-to-pee feelings, but I carry on, then there's a small tingle in the tip of my penis, and I carry on. And on and on and something seems to build up inside me, and feels great, and builds and builds, and my heart rate shoots up and after a while my calf muscle starts to vibrate or something.

Felt amazing but couldn't keep it going long enough.

This has got to be my most intense session so far.

Ok so I do need to pee now, and how much of the sensations were due to aneros and how much due to bladder, I don't know. But it felt good.
lonewolf8,

I'm sure you've been at a dinner somewhere and seen someone take a piece of fine crystal glassware and gently run their finger over the rim until they produce a resonant tone? Strangely enough there are many aspects of this parlor trick that are analogous to generating a Super O. Consider... lubrication, friction, rhythmic motion, pressure, and the resonant amplification of energy.

Great post BF Mayfield. I think perhaps once a person is in the zone, then the glass vibration analogue could really help with things. I'll have to do more riding and experiementation 🙂

lonewolf, I recall at point earlier in my journey that there was a bladder sweet spot so to speak. A certain level of bladder fullness would mean more pleasure during my session. So, I would empty my bladder and as the session progressed I would develop the need to go to the bathroom, it would follow that the pleasure would increase as the need to go to the bathroom would increase until my bladder won out and made it more uncomfortable than pleasurable. The increase in bladder size would help massage the prostate in conjunction with the aneros I guess, but before it was too full that the need sensation would override the aneros.

That's a good theory, @superoh3.
Needing to pee is something i need to do during all of my sessions.

Last night was interesting. Decided to try @spinx's suggestion of using a larger device before using a smaller one. Rode the Prograsm Ice for 30 minutes, had some good feelings starting, need to pee, some involuntary contractions etc.

Then switcher to Helix Syn and rode that for another 45 minutes. I managed to massage that weird spot inside me that starts to make me feel like i need to pee. I know that I have trouble separating feeling of orgasm from ejaculation in traditional masturbation, but perhaps what I felt last night was similar to orgasming. I'm not sure really.

A couple of times while very very gently massaging that spot and doing small movements, my heart rate shot up as if i had just ran a few miles. It was quite alarming and also quite pleasant 😆
One of the things I played with was this feeling that B Mayfield wrote above, and what I discovered some time ago in a post above: this feeling of something inside me sliding and slipping like a wet finger sliding on a plate. It was doing that while I was breathing in and out, and with small contractions clench and release (as long as I held a certain light baseline contraction). It felt gooood.

I had to stop the session as it was getting very very late and I needed to sleep, but I didnt remove the Helix from my rear... and slept with it in me. I had trouble sleeping, kept turning, hearing noises of the house settling, the central heating cooling down, and someone doing burnouts or similar nearby.

I kept trying to sleep for ages. I felt hot, as if it was a summer's evening. And.... for a long time my prostate or ass or something inside me, just wouldn't shut up. I kept feeling vibrations inside me.
I wasn't doing anything with my PC muscles, yet the vibrations kept happening.

After a while, I took the Helix out of me. I think maybe it was 4 or 5 or maybe even 6am by then.

So I had a very disturbed sleep 🙁 But some very interesting sensations! 🙂

Oh and in the morning when I woke up, my cock felt a bit sparkly with electricity and may have had a dry orgasm. Not sure. I woke up thinking I needed to change my underwear but it was all dry...

Hey guys and gals.

Rode twice yesterday.

First time, it was with the Progasm for approx 60 minutes. I think it's possible I had a dry O or something close to it. Intense feeling of needing to pee without the urgency, and sorta at the tip of my cock, and with sudden very fast heart beat. Reminded me slightly of a traditional orgasm.

I was employing my small contractions: low force, small range of motion. There's a region inside me where the Progams (or Helix) moves over, and that feels nice. Like a tickle. I was concentrating on moving the Progasm so that it was rubbing that region as often as possible, using as little force as possible and not very fast. Maybe 1 - 2 rubs a second.

Later in the evening, I did the same with the Helix Syn, and this time I did the same sort of movement but made it a circular movement. I imagined it as if my prostate area is a clock, with numbers facing forward, and I was moving the Helix inside me like the minute handle, but going counter-clockwise. Also had that very fast pulse.

I think during the Progasm session, after the in/out or up down small movements, I experienced pulsing inside me, and I could relax a bit and not do the contractions and the pulse carried on making the same sort of motions inside me which were really pleasant.

Anyone else do these "circles" or in/out movements with their device?

@lonewolf Congratulations. Sounds like some great rides. In answer to your question, I believe the "circles" that you describe are also called a "roll". I achieve it by alternate contractions of the sphincters. The movement of the device seems to roll front to back, down and around. It's one of the moves I do most frequently in my sessions, especially with the smaller device (I have Helix and Maximus). It creates the pleasurable sensations (amplified pulse, tickle) that you describe.I often alternate the "role" with clenching and releasing of the anal sphincter "It feels so good, man" . O:-)

Just a little update:

Got my Eupho Syn in the post today and rode it for maybe 45 minutes.

Hmmm. I will need another session tonight 😀

It is thinner than the Helix, lovely design. Put it in me, didnt have the immediate feelings of needing to pee.
But that stated a few minutes after insertion. And it does seem to move more when inside you, but very sublte movements. Felt that rubbing feeling with it as well.

The session was hampered with needing to actually pee (I blame the coffee earlier), but even now without the device in me, I feel a bit "funny" inside. I remind myself that I don't have the Eupho in me. And that I just went to the toilet so I dont need to empty bladder.

So definitely an interesting device, and will definitely ride it again and again.

@lonewolf8, I Love mine. It's my favorite toy at the moment. Enjoy!

Last night's session was interesting.

Used Progasm Ice first, for about 45 minutes. Then used Helix Syn for about 30-45 min, then used Eupho Syn for about 30-45 min, then finally used Helix Syn for about 30mins.

A lot of the initial parts of the session were quite mild and tame compared to previous sessions (been a good month since my last proper sessions). I was doing The Small Rubbing Method (use PC muscles with low intensity and low range of movement over a certain region inside me) for most of the session. Had some good feelings with that, mostly occasional tingles in the tip of my cock, and some feelings inside me like I needed to pee.

As I progressed in my session, I noticed that I needed to pee more frequently. I must have gone to the toilet 6 or more times, but it had been maybe an hour between my last drink and since starting the session.

Helix Syn felt the best of the devices last night. Seemed to get me in a certain spot. But Eupho after a while felt really good too. With the Helix, at one point in the session, I held a low contraction and instead of doing The Small Rubbing Method, I relaxed my PC muscles and let the rubbing continue by themselves. This was going on for some time, and felt lovely, like my groin and upper legs were vibrating. My mind's a blur but I think I also experienced some tingle cock and need to pee feelings.

During the last phases of the session, I would switch between voluntarily using PC muscles to do large and hard contractions, then use the Small Rubbing Method, then Do Nothing, and these produced some exciting sensations. All of these together sortof formed to make me react to clenches and start other clenches, and keep doing that, which made my cock tingle as if I was close to traditional orgasm. Also while doing the Small Rubbing Method, it would feel good and then suddenly it would feel like I really badly needed to pee, and then subside once my PC muscles reacted to it and suddenly clenched and released. And the Do Nothing method caused the need to pee feeling to increase in the same sort of way, but lasted longer until the PC muscles finally contracted and "reset" the process.

The only thing about the session that I didnt like is that I needed to pee many times, and I am considering if a lot of the good feelings I had were present or amplified *only* because I had a full bladder.

Either way, I don't care that much (about the full bladder issue) - it felt like a good session, making progress and learning more about my body. And looking back, I would say I did feel lots of pleasure.

So perhaps longer, multi-device sessions are the way to go for a while?

So last night I was riding the Progasm and had a weird sensation. I was doing sets of hard clenches with a medium baseline clench. Then felt buzzy and I let go of the medium clench (maybe had a light clench, not sure, muscles didnt register very well) and no clenches. For a few minutes it felt like something was building up and up, slowly. Like a long sawtooth wave. But I am also not sure if it was my bladder being full - a few minutes after this sensation stopped, I went to the toilet, and waited a few minutes and then I emptied my bladder. So... that was weird. But kinda cool.