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(@dogmen)
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Hello all and best wishes on all your rides.
I would just like to try and take a stab at trying to inform newbies and others having issues with the way I have learned thru my experience and readings. Myself having been a user for 3 years now and I still would say I am a newbie as well. I am no leader or expert or have any special tip that will be the key to your success. What I know and will share in my experience has been from reading others that have a vast majority of knowledge and wisdom. Those users and posters have great wisdom an the things they share. We all know who they are. They are well written posts of information. Mostly from a select 4 or 5 guys but often from a few more. Guys thank you so much.
I'm sure if they read this they will highly agree with all or most of my post. Maybe not in my order and or they may add to it. I can not put it into words like they can. But I will try to keep it as simple as i can. To me all the information in these forums is a little biased. Its personal preference, it's what works for some, it's what certain people like or are into. It has all been said many many times by many people. Try to read and understand what your reading.
I have been there, read things, tried them nope didnt work. Waited tried again nope. I was and still progress slowly but I will not stop. Cause as slow as it has been what feelings i have gotten and what I know and feel will come in the future will be very worth it.

These first few steps are how your mindset should be for a session

1. EXPECTATIONS - If you have any expectations of having a great ride and the best orgasm ever happening. You already failed. Dont bother trying. If you have expectations that this will be fast like ill slide the toy in and in 10 mins I'm circulating the moon than again You already failed. You have to go into this with I'm just going to slide this in and see what happens. Open mind. So if you can start with that mind set your ready for step 2.

2. PATIENCE AND PERSISTANCE - This is not a sprint it's a marathon. It's like going back to school. You learn a little something new with each article you read and with each session you have. You have to listen to your body and try to learn what is going on. What works for one might not work for others that's why there is no set guidelines and this is a journey. We share what works for us to maybe help someone else. It's a process trial and error. You have to be in the mindset that if things dont work the 1st, 2nd or maybe the 3rd time. You are just going to keep trying. Maybe change something up a little. Also it's not a I slid my aneros in 45 mins ago wtf. It's a ride. Each ride will vary in time and progression. If you understand this and have no expectations and your willing to have the patience and persistance let's take you to 3

3. AROUSAL - Try to be as aroused as you can before you start a session. Not the most important thing but it does make a difference. After all its faster to rub one out when your already hard and ready than it is to have to get hard and than rub it out. Moving to #4.

4. TIME/LOCATION - Again this is not a sprint. You cant have a session in 15 minutes. Not in the beginning anyway. I would have at least 2 hours of time set for prep,session, and clean up. time must be your time. No distractions. Whatever will pull or distract you from your session you want to avoid. Also you may get loud so if your worried someone will hear you than your in the wrong place.

5. RELAXATION - You have to be in a relaxed mind set. Breathe slowly and deep to calm your body. Let your mind be clear of thought. You cant go into a session wanting to fight somebody or being tensed up. Maybe a nice long hot shower before that usually refreshes, and relaxes you.

So now if you can understand exactly what 1 thru 5 means and you get it. If You can practice those things than your ready to go to step 6.

These steps are for the actual preparation to have a session

6. PREP - You will want to have a nice bowl movement or maybe flush out your butt and drain your snake. Be nice and empty and clean Before you start anything.

7. LUBE - you will want a lot of lube in you and handy for relubing. Water or oil base. That will depend on your liking and the toy material. Others can comment deeper on lubes.

8. RELAX - Yup again. It is important to be very relaxed. Especially to slide in that new toy. Go slow and let it help. Listen to your butt. It will helpmyou guide the toy in and the toy will know where to go.

So now your in the mindset of steps 1 thru 5.
You have prepped to steps 6,7 and 8. Let's slide that toy in and start with your steps for riding that toy.

9. RELAX - Yes again. You now have that toy in your butt. It might feel good,ok or wierd no worries. Keep relaxing. Try to breathe. Slow movements. You might get the urge your going to pee or shit. If you prepped and your empty. You wont try to fight thru those feeling. Just let go and let it be what it is.
It will pass to a feeling of either nothing or that you can tell there is something in your ass. The having to pee or shit feeling should go. This may take 5,10 15 mins or longer that is all on each person differently.

10. LISTEN/FEELING - now that your comfy and the going to the bathroom feeling are gone listen to your body. Try to feel what is going on. These toys are not going to be rocking in and out of you like a guy fuckimg your ass or you ficking your girlfriend. They are very small subtle movements. But when your firing on all cylinders these small subtle movements will rock your world. Try to feel those small movements. Try to feel them become bigger than they actually are. Try to feel them crawl up thru your body.

11. CONTRACTIONS /HIP ROCKING - start small. Contract your PC muscles. Let them go. Try to hold them. Maybe rock your hips a little bit. I am no expert at this and cause it is a personal preference of what one likes or works.

12. LETTING GO - you will have many feeling or thoughts by now. Some of which are I'm going to pee. I have to shit. Should I clinch, the toy is moving let me help it. You have to free those thoughts and let it be. If your in bed and worrying about pissing yourself than your in the wrong place and mindset to have had a session. It all goes with the territory. You most likely wont but it can happen. Just relax and try to let the feelings take you away. Small or big just let them guide you. Dont force them, dont try to control them. Let them control you. It's like a trust fall. If you have to moan,scream or swear let it out go with your body and mind are telling you to do.

I can add positions, kegel techniques, what model aneros and many other things in here. I feel those are not of the most importance to having a good session plus I again am not an expert in those areas as I am still learning myself. I also feel they are personal satisfiers. Yes they help but different to each person.
What I tried to lay out was the general overall improtant basics that people ask or dont seem to understand when reading others posts. They are repeated countless times by countless members maybe not word for word but the principle of them.
It's not a sprint it's a marathon
You have to keep trying
Relax
Let go
These are so important to helping one achieve progression in their journey. It took me awhile to understand them. I was chasing that super 0. Going in thinking today is the day. I'm letting go but truly I am not. I didnt start to have any good feeling till I really started to follow these. Now they get better and better. To be honest. I just go over that fear of shitting the bed. I let try to let go. But there is a point when it feels. Like your going shit. I cant I'm empty. But maybe I didn't clean good enough. 2 days ago I said fuck it. I was empty, I had a bowl movement I took a pee twice and gave myself a nice enema. About 1 hour and 45 min in inwas fighting out shitting the bed. I finally said hey stupid let it go. Your empty at most it's just lube and if not so what you have a towel down. Just clean it up. Well omg wow. What a session.
I had a glow and tingling heat radiating from my spine all through my body. Like little pins and needles when your hand or foot falls asleep. It was like floating. Best session yet.
Any way I know I missed a lot but what I missed I feel is better left for the experts to give the advise. This was just how I was able to open the door to my prostate. It took time. Lots of it. I used every other day for 3 years. I read people saying they have been at it for 3 weeks and they are calling it a hoax or there giving up. You my friends if your in the group. Your not reading the advise of people. Your reading but your not understanding it. I was you. Trust me. Good luck and good riding.


   
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This is a really good post for the new users, those that have just started. Often, we would just point them to the wiki pages, but this is a good starting point for sure.

Where it starts to fall down, is when it is read and applied to those that have been doing this for years and still struggling to get their first ever p-wave. How can we help those guys?


   
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I'm not sure that is doesnt apply to everyone. I sure there are exceptions there always is. I have been riding for 3 years and to tell you the truth I have only been able to have any progress in the last 6 months Maybe 8. It all started when I truly understood what eveything meant and mentally I was able to be prepared.
I guess myself maybe like some others I always still had those subconscious thoughts. You know what I mean? I thought I was free and clear but I wasnt. Example. I was never really afraid of mistaking that feeling of maybe precum oozing out but instead pissing all over the place or that feeling you have to poop. I just a few days ago said fuck it and let it go. That was my best ride. I feel I am kinda one of those people that has been riding for a while with little success.


   
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Yeah, sometimes the most simple instruction is the hardest to truly grasp because you think you are already beyond it. Especially when you have been going at it for some time. The ego sometimes doesn't allow you to really go back to having an open mind. In Zen Buddhism, you got this term called 'Shoshin' that means 'beginner's mind'. Where you try to look at something like a child would to find out of the box type of insights.

For example, I have this problem when I'm trying a new exercise at the gym. I have been lifting for years so I assume my experience and strenght will make it so that I already know it perfectly. I dont. Thinking like this just leads to feeling ashamed, frustrated or even worse: hurting myself. Being humble and open-minded is harder than you would think but valuable to really get to somewhere new.


   
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You're spot on, I can attest to the expectation part. I'm still a newbie but haven't had a O or Super O with the toy in it. I did however have super O's A-less and that's because I didn't expect anything after taking the Aneros out to end the session. With the Aneros in I'm always looking for that feeling that would become an O or super-O, filling up my mind with this expectation instead of just letting go. My most successful sessions are always before I fall asleep. I'll insert the Aneros and when I'm about to doze off I'll remove it. What comes after is just insane. It always starts when I'm about to fall asleep and my mind is totally shut down. At that point the p-waves start rolling one after another, one stronger than the next one and I'm completely relaxed, don't care, don't expect anything, just giving in to the feeling. Than it happens, total bliss, all I see is white or colors flashing and an amazing feeling all over my body from my toes to head. I could have continued with what comes next, but feel like this is not helpful to someone's journey to the super-O. So yes, if you're able to empty your mind, totally relax and give in to the feeling is when it will happen.


   
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With the aneros in, i'm not looking for the next feeling that will go to an orgasm.
I don't feel that it is expectation.

I think we need something a bit better for the strugglers, I just don't know what.


   
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Maybe I'm missing what your saying than.
I dont think that the next feeling is organs also.
I didn't get anynp waves for almost 1.5 years.
the point is to just stay with it. Enjoy whatever feelings you get no matter how big or how small, how long or how short they are. Most know that even if your a pro every ride is different. You cant expect the orgasm. Just enjoy the feelings. But to me to get any feelings you have to let go and understand what things mean. Just go at it as trial and error.


   
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Well, after 4 years of no p-waves, I am still sticking to it.
I'm sure there are others who have the same issue, and I hope they are sticking to it.


   
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