Hi,
I apologize in advance for my writing. This is my first post here. I just joined the forum but I’m not really a newcomer Aneros-wise. I’ve been the owner of a MGX for probably two years of off and on use, but I’ve always had rather scarce success with it. At least until a few days ago, when I decided to give it yet another try, only this time using it upside-down, so that its curve would be pointing away from the prostate. Well, long story short, this last week I was able to enjoy my very first two mini-Os.
When I insert the device the intended way, it often feels uncomfortable no matter how much lube I use, I rarely feel any pleasure and struggle to keep the involuntaries going. On the other hand, when I use it the “wrong” way it just feels natural. Also, the involuntaries would start on their own shortly after the insertion, and even the handle playing the role of the p-tab finally seems to hit my sweet spot, instead of just poking around. I know I'm not the only one experiencing this.
My only concern is that, of course, this is not the intended way of use. My guess is that the MGX is just too aggressive for me, whereas I probably prefer a lighter stimulation. Using it backwards, the downward pointing head pushes the back of the main curve against my prostate, which seems to be (almost) enough.
So I wanted to hear your opinion on this, and what you think I should do to keep progressing. Also, to the more seasoned users: I wanted to ask you if you think I should get a more appropriate Aneros model basing on the above information and, if yes, which one you would suggest. Thanks!
Probably the "smallest" Aneros massager is the HIH 950. It is a good all-around performer IMO. You may want to consider it. Not too aggressive-looking but gets the job done!
by using it backwards you are probably not making contact with the prostrate. The peridise models do not contact the prostrate but are intended to give anal orgasms - perhaps that it was you are experiencing? I find those models to be the least aggressive.
Another thought is perhaps you just need more experience? When I first got started ( I only owned the mgx) I used to hold it in my hand and press the head lightly into my anus just barely making any penetration. This worked very well for me and was how I would start out every session. Now days I don't do that anymore. I tried it on a session not too long ago and got no results. So what I am saying is that over time what works and doesn't work is probably going to change for you.
Thank you for your replies!
by using it backwards you are probably not making contact with the prostrate. The peridise models do not contact the prostrate but are intended to give anal orgasms - perhaps that it was you are experiencing?
Honestly, I don't know. But I'm inclined to believe that's not the case. Using it backwards, I can feel a nice, tingly sensation from where I suppose my prostate is. I mean, you have a point, but after two years I can at least tell when my prostate is being stimulated the "right" way.
When I first got started ( I only owned the mgx) I used to hold it in my hand and press the head lightly into my anus just barely making any penetration.
Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, too. I usually spend the first 5/10 minutes like that, trying to relax and be as comfortable as possible. However, the initial sensations tend to slowly fade away over time no matter what, until it just becomes uncomfortable again. To put it differently, I seem to be unable to sustain those sensations for a prolonged period of time.
As for the HIH 950: I looked it up and compared it with the MGX and it looks promising! But wouldn't it be a bit too short? Of course, I can't be sure until I try it, but keep in mind that I'm an average-height person by the US standards.
Thank you for your replies!
by using it backwards you are probably not making contact with the prostrate. The peridise models do not contact the prostrate but are intended to give anal orgasms - perhaps that it was you are experiencing?
Honestly, I don't know. But I'm inclined to believe that's not the case. Using it backwards, I can feel a nice, tingly sensation from where I suppose my prostate is. I mean, you have a point, but after two years I can at least tell when my prostate is being stimulated the "right" way.
When I first got started ( I only owned the mgx) I used to hold it in my hand and press the head lightly into my anus just barely making any penetration.
Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, too. I usually spend the first 5/10 minutes like that, trying to relax and be as comfortable as possible. However, the initial sensations tend to slowly fade away over time no matter what, until it just becomes uncomfortable again. To put it differently, I seem to be unable to sustain those sensations for a prolonged period of time.
As for the HIH 950: I looked it up and compared it with the MGX and it looks promising! But wouldn't it be a bit too short? Of course, I can't be sure until I try it, but keep in mind that I'm an average-height person by the US standards.
Edit:
Also, the involuntaries would start on their own shortly after the insertion, and even the handle playing the role of the p-tab finally seems to hit my sweet spot, instead of just poking around.
I should probably clarify that I own the classic version of the MGX.
@Saurus The 950 is not too short for me and I'm 6" 3". The price is right too ($40). Worth a try IMO!
@Saurus -
A couple of thoughts:
First, if the MGX is your only model, get another one, or try several. I have every model. They all do something different, and you may need something more neutral in shape; the MGX has a definite forward bias. The Eupho, the Helix, and even the bigger Maximus are a bit less pointy, and your prostate may be in a slightly higher or lower spot. The Tempo might just be your winner- it's completely neutral, not too big, and provides for lots of movement and positions. I particularly like sitting, and the Tempo is best for this. You can also warm it up better than the others, which feels really luxe.
Second, @goldenboy is dead on. The HIH950 may look short, but it's a real fireplug. I find it tickles the prostate from below, instead of pressing from the side or top, and it provokes different sensations from all the others. It's one of my defaults, and at $40 is about the best value that Aneros can boast.
Best of pleasures,
Z
@Zenopause So if I understand correctly you’re saying that I should choose according not to the size/length of the device, but rather its shape/curvature.
I can’t really afford to buy more than a few models, and I really would like to narrow the candidates down to one. Even, it would be best if I could pull it off with just the MGX, not because of the money, but because I was under the impression that it’s not a matter of which model you use, and “every model can be a good model” if you know what you’re doing. By the same reasoning, if I can’t really do with the MGX, my guess is that I’d most likely struggle with a different model, too. What I’m saying is that I’d gladly get myself another model, but only if you really think it would be worth it.
They're so many... By the way, @goldenboy I took a closer look and the HIH 950 ends up costing $66 if you take into account the shipping costs to my country. I know, you couldn’t have known. Strangely I couldn’t find it on other shopping sites, weird. Also @Zenopause, now that you mention it, the Eupho too caught my attention before, as I’ve been reading that it is overall more delicate. As for the Tempo...I don't know, I think I'd prefer to stick with a proper prostate massager.
Actually I’d love to hear a few more opinions before making any decision. I wish to thank you all again for your time!
Yeah, that's what I ended up doing, too. I usually spend the first 5/10 minutes like that, trying to relax and be as comfortable as possible. However, the initial sensations tend to slowly fade away over time no matter what, until it just becomes uncomfortable again. To put it differently, I seem to be unable to sustain those sensations for a prolonged period of time.
In my early years I would find the same thing that the sensations would be quite strong at first but then fade away and nothing else would happen. What I started doing was changing models throughout my session. When the excitement dies down from one - out it goes and in goes another. This practice has stuck with me for many years. I own most all the models but generally use 5 or 6 for any given session, starting small and working up to my largest.
Although I have had several favorites, the progasm has been my favorite for many years now. I just love the size and how it fills me up.
I’ve been at it for several years and have rediscovered my MGX Classic with the handle cut off...been rockin’ my world for the past 3 weeks. Funny how we seem to go thru phases!
When I insert the device the intended way, it often feels uncomfortable no matter how much lube I use, I rarely feel any pleasure and struggle to keep the involuntaries going.
@Saurus My suggestion would be to try Eupho Syn as your next model. It's thinner in width, smoother in texture and the arm of the P-tab has some more give. It's also a bit more symmetrical, if you wish to experiment with using it backwards.
If you are willing to spend some additional money, I would recommend to alternate with the Peridise, which should be the least intrusive model.
I encourage you to continue experimenting. Use the resources of the wiki and the forum, but also let your intuition guide you in trying out what might be right for you. As long as it doesn't hurt, there's really nothing you can do that is wrong. If you feel like doing it, do it! If it feels good, keep doing it!
I would also recommend you try to focus less on identifying what you feel and finding a "name" for it (e.g. mini-O), and focus more on just feeling and enjoying whatever it is you experience. Let it evolve to your own unique journey! @neros wrote a great post a few years ago, The Myth of Super Orgasm. I strongly advice you read it.
Most countries have local suppliers of Aneros products. If you google the product name and add the name of your country chances are you will find a local supplier.
So, I'm going to sum it up for everyone:
- It's been suggested that I just lack experience, which I agree with, and that I continue experimenting as long as it doesn't hurt. Maybe I just have to be more consistent wrt. the sessions' frequency (which I'm working on, using the device backwards and masturbating less helped in this regard).
- Assuming I got it right, the device's size doesn't matter as much as its shape.
- Having more than one model and alternating between them, even during the same session, may be beneficial.
- A few suggestions for a new, less aggressive model have been: HIH 950, Peridise, Eupho (Syn), in this order, and to a lesser extent: Helix, Maximus, Tempo.
Since if I were to get another model I'd go for another prostate massager, the tie right now is between the HIH 950 and the Eupho (whether Syn or classic). Actually I'd love to try the Helix or even the Maximus, too, but y'know, I have to make a choice.
I would also recommend you try to focus less on identifying what you feel and finding a "name" for it (e.g. mini-O), and focus more on just feeling and enjoying whatever it is you experience. Let it evolve to your own unique journey! @neros wrote a great post a few years ago, The Myth of Super Orgasm. I strongly advice you read it.
While I mostly agree with that post, I think that the classification helps a lot, especially here on the forum. E.g. if I told you that I had my first Super-O just by using my MGX backwards, I bet you would've thought that I had somehow made this enormous advancement overnight, while in reality that's hardly the case. Also, I didn't mean to say that I didn't enjoy those first two, let's call them non-ejaculatory orgasms. Actually I would be more than happy if I were guaranteed one of them on each session!
Good points. If we do learn and adapt, different models may indeed yield the same results or frustrations. I certainly get that sometimes. They can run hot and cold at unpredicable times.
I like my MGX Trident a lot, because of the angle and ridges. I used to get way more sensation out of it than lately, though, and have been tending toward the Helix (Tri and Syn), and the Eupho Syn.
However, based on the preponderance of use and reviews, I'd say the Helix is the best overall choice. It doesn't do any single thing better than the others, e.g. the Eupho is more nimble, the Max more assertive, etc) but it covers a lot of bases- good size, nice shape, good movement, decent contact with the prostate, to name a few. If I were you, I'd probably go with the Helix, because it's the most common launchpad for many of us, and may give you a better referent for other models. Also, there's a new Helix Trident Syn; this might be the perfect opportunity for you to try a different texture as well as shape. I'll probably pick one up.
But again, that's only what I'd do, and I'm not an advanced rider. You can't go wrong with a Eupho, because it's so sleek and polite. It took a little more patience for me, because it presses less and gives less immediate feedback, unlike a bigger model that demands your attention. But it's wonderful too, and if you can relax and allow it to start buzzing or shifting or twitching, you may find it's in a category of its own. Oh, and don't overlook the HIH950. Sucko that it costs you more, but the runt of the litter often brings me more fun that all the other big dogs.
Good luck, and let us know what you decide, yes?
Best of Pleasures,
Z
@Zenopause Thanks, I'll take the Helix too into consideration. I'm still on the fence about a new model, but I'll let you know.
Recently, I've been having a hard time trying to reproduce the results I described in my first post. Specifically, I can't seem to get the involuntaries to start anymore (which to be honest was never easy). Maybe it was just a coincidence? So I decided to try again using the MGX the 'right' way. Sometimes I even alternate between 'right' and 'wrong' way, as if I was using two different models. I'm going to be as consistent as possible and try to have a session every few days, provided I'm relaxed and aroused enough, until I run out of lube which is almost over lol. Then I'll probably order another model along with a new bottle.
Side note: Now that I think of it, on the other hand, I can get myself off quite easily with just my fingers. So apparently I'm able to correctly identify and stimulate my prostate with my bare hands--although it always ends with a traditional orgasm--yet somehow not with my MGX.
I'm still at the early stages, but I would definitely recommend getting something, whatever, to try. It will be different to the MGX. I researched the MGX before I bought it and was expecting great things, but it didn't eventuate, so not sure that recommendations are a good guide.
This is actually interesting. It's true that everyone's experience is subjective, so obviously you can't be 100% sure which one would the best model for you beforehand. On the other hand, since we had the same reaction to the MGX, it would make sense that it would be the same with the Helix. So I'm definitely considering it, now. As for the Eupho: by "needle to the prostate", do you mean a good or bad feeling?
@thorny Nice! I'm going to try again on my back, too. Hopefully I'll have your same luck someday!
Hey @Saurus -
Meant to get back to you earlier, but my advice is a bit of the blind leading the blind; I've only once had an eye-crossing encounter with pleasure, and it was driving somewhere after a long night of Aneros play. I haven't reproduced it, but almost a year later, I don't fret about it anymore.
However, I have achieved plenty of wondrous sensations and feedback since April 2018. I've definitely evolved to the point where I look forward to sessions no matter what, I have few expectations, and I genuinely enjoy all the buzzing, twinges, nipple response and so on even when sessions are kind of dull. You will too.
My biggest stepping stone has been successfully dismissing all the reports of otherworldly, everlasting orgasmic bliss that goes for hours. It's anomalous, and we're all different. Different reactions to different stimuli, different anatomy, different relationships to ourselves and our sexualities. So stay attuned to yourself above all, and pay attention to the wise men around here who counsel tranquility, patience, and going at your own pace. I'm still putting along, but that's always the best stuff- me time with lots of sensual and sexual exploration. We're hardwired to have pleasure
The point, I guess, is that you'll probably have to play around with a few models to understand what they do and what you do. Even the same models offer dramatically different results depending on who knows what. I always get the best contractions, spasms and tingles from my little HIH950, then the MGX, the Peridise twins, and the Maximus. But they're all hit and miss. Like sex and masturbation; what gets us off is never exactly the same twice.
So re. the best model...what's the most beautiful type of woman? What's the best food? Who's the best guitarist? It's never static. Depends on your mood. Whatever Aneros you choose, have fun and relax, and post results. We're in this for the long run, right?
Best, and let us know how it's going.
Z
Addendum: I meant to say about that we're hardwired to have pleasure around, in, and through our penises, and it's a weird road rerouting it deeper inside.
Z
@Zenopause Thank you for your input. I feel that I can't just dismiss my own expectations like you did, because otherwise the "journey" becomes devoid of purpose. I certainly don't hurry it, though.
I'd said earlier that I was going to try to be more consistent, but then I entered a rather stressful period and I guess that I fell behind a bit. However, I'm soon going to start experimenting again, hopefully with a renewed perspective on the whole matter. Specifically, I was thinking of giving my MGX another go by using it the 'intended' way, but I'm definitely getting another model as soon as possible. I'll report back if I have any news of interest.