Mindgasm...No Nut November...free

Posted by: @helghast

@tbob 

Cant beat do something lol I never had the patience for do nothing lol

Funny thing when I try do something, although the sensations may be good it just seems contrived, if that makes any sense.With do nothing, my body is more in control, and I don't have to try to control anything. My Sphinc, anal canal,  prostate and penis each take turns pleasuring themselves. The best is when they all go at the same time. With do nothing my body chooses when its going to do that.  Doing Mindgasm  has enhanced my sessions. But not as the session. I'm not sure this is a mental block or not. Don't get me wrong I have had some new revalations with Mindgasm, and I think in time it will serve me well. I still think anchored tension is the key to me moving forward, would like it to be a little more seemless.

Posted by: @tbob

Don't get me wrong I have had some new revalations with Mindgasm, and I think in time it will serve me well. I still think anchored tension is the key to me moving forward, would like it to be a little more seemless.

It the same deal with all the different techniques. Mindgam will work great... if you're a Mindgasm kind of person. I'm quite sure being proficient at getting into trance states help a lot, so prior experience with hypnosis or meditation will enhance things a lot in session as you basically just follow along and stick to the plan without thinking about it. 

Even Mindgasm's version of do-nothing" *is* anchored tension, see day 11 :  Do nothing - Constant Light Source Hold.

Mindgasm is a very well put-together system, there's no denying that, but it's possible that only some parts of it will be right for you. As you mix and match, and add some elements that are potentially in contradiction with the system, then it's possible that your body does not know which path to follow. I still think it's worth doing the whole 30 days, then you'll know which bits you like and can bring to your "normal" sessions, and what you need to discard. 

Once No Nut November is over.. what is the balance?   I want regular sex and penis ejaculation and masturbating as well. Once I've "rewired" to a comfortable place... Is switching back and forth confusing to the pleasure focus? 

@hankey01 Then have regular sex ejaculation. I had sex all through my training phase. Usually at least 6 days a week. It don’t stop me from reaching the top. Maybe replace some of the jacking off though. You have your journey and a partner,I don’t see why you even need to Jack off at all.

@helghast

Posted by: @helghast

I don’t see why you even need to Jack off at all.

I'm not with my partner every week..only every second week.  Also I do enjoy porn and masturbation.  🙂

I started out enthused, starting to bore me now. Not many days left and they really haven't tied things together. Jury's out on whether I like access to the whole website like they used to do. Feels completely promotional, we'll see. I will follow till the end, and decide then. It has kinda fucked up my session cycle, and my aless isn't quite on demand. Which concerns me a little, right now it feels like  I'm further from the target instead of closer. 

Posted by: @tbob

I will follow till the end, and decide then. It has kinda fucked up my session cycle, and my aless isn't quite on demand. Which concerns me a little, right now it feels like  I'm further from the target instead of closer. 

Hmmm. I'd say, don't mess with your (re)wiring. If it's screwing with your previous results, then it's not good for you. I'd venture a guess that your Aless are not cooperating because some small muscle is overly tired form daily exercising, but maybe your subconscious is getting confused by all this stuff...

I don't know, if you have concerns, it's like anything in life, better take care of them early. Do you think carrying on could cause long-term setbacks ? 

Posted by: @zentai

Do you think carrying on could cause long-term setbacks ?

Thats my worry, it seems I have already set things in motion. When aless does kick in, the pleasure does start at a higher level. I am hoping when mindgasm is done that things will get back in the groove.

Posted by: @zentai

because some small muscle is overly tired form daily exercising, but maybe your subconscious is getting confused by all this stuff..

I have know problems with the exercises, I was able to hold a level8 contraction for the 120sec near effortlesly, I feel the growth of the muscles but they have never felt stiff or strained. Even the day after. I think you hit on it with subconcious, being a do nothinger, I do kinda feel like my body is saying" what are you doing, I got this". I really haven't  had many normal sessions this month, so I'm not really sure where I'm at.

Posted by: @tbob

Even the day after. I think you hit on it with subconcious, being a do nothinger, I do kinda feel like my body is saying" what are you doing, I got this". I really haven't  had many normal sessions this month, so I'm not really sure where I'm at.

Yeah, whatever method you decide to use, there is clearly a moment where you need to let go, and we could discuss the various ways in which this can happen, either consciously, unconsciously, analytically, etc.  You will be "doing nothing" anyway, when all is said and done, but I feel those men who can make it work by doing nothing from the get-go have head start.

If you think that you will be able to separate your old method from this one, then you should be all right. If it's all mixing up, then it might take more time to untangle things. This is a bit like in that other thread, we're actually pioneering quite a bit, I don't remember reading about the effects of drastically switching methods, it's hard to say how this works. 

 Starting the new week, hows it going for you?  I have learned some new things. Are sure hope they tie it all together soon, so one can play with all the tools before they shut it dwn. Its kinda getting long in the tooth. I think I prefer access to the whole site for the month. So far its been like baby food, I need the meat and potatoes.  

@tbob 

Day 28 is the Eternal Wave, which was the "old" lesson no.3 I think ? It's hard to keep up. Then there is Final for (I guess ?) 29-30 which is probably where any lose end will be dealt with. I would not expect Eternal Flame and The Stairwell to make an apparition, since that would be moving too fast according to the normal MG schedule, which put them at 2 months +. I hope I got all of this right... It does look like it will be a drip feed until the end, then maybe a surprise ? 

From a business point of view, it makes more sense to not give access to everything in the first month like they did last year and have everyone rush through the lessons like kids in a candy store. I think they're doing well with the 30 days challenge and there is a lot of material to go through. 

Hello,

I'm on day 18 due to my delay. I progressively enjoying the NNN and am at a point where I don't miss masturbation any more, as the daily Mindgasm lessons give me enough pleasure.

I'm still confused with top. Three out of the six methods work for me and I can flex the imaginary muscle without any physical effect as well as a third real muscle, which normally makes my penis bounce when flexed. This real muscle feels like it goes from top root of the penis form the pubic bone on both sides towards the groins. But the real muscle doesn't work completely independent from centre, same as my base and centre are still not fully independent yet. Flexing the real muscle is more effective than the imaginary.

My major problem with the top is: I luckily can easy find a top sweet-spot at almost any strength of flex. If I hold a top sweet-spot I mostly receive almost instantaneous small p-waves and it often also creates involuntary centre vibrations like a big squeeze, naturally caused without addressing the centre at all. The small p-waves, especially when in combination with vibration, always cause a very strong erection. The erection alters the sensations in a way that I can no longer address the top, consequently loose the top sweet-spot and that ends the p-wave. After the p-wave ebbed away the erection soon subsides and I can address top again to start it all over. Any experienced Mindgasmer with tips on that?

Best wishes

Hans

@hans_steam 

Disclaimer : I'm not really an experienced Mindgasmer, but...

If you look at the muscle diagram for day 17, it seems like you have the right "real" muscle activating for the top. To me, the dick bouncing is a PC muscle squeeze, which would be more "center" (?).  @helghast would be able to give you the actual names and tell you if I'm speaking nonsense. Trying to work the imaginary flex makes little sense to me if you have more success flexing the actual muscle. Without spoiling anything, if you carry on with Mindgasm you'll discover that the separation of the flexes becomes less important as you go on, or at least that's my interpretation.  

I feel like having a strong erection and no p-waves is somewhat superior to having p-waves without an erection. That does not solve your problem of the disappearing p-waves, but if you see the Super-O journey as having potential use in partnered sex, you'll probably see where this is going. I don't think this is something you need to "solve". Just keep at it and things should readjust by themselves.  

Posted by: @zentai

If you look at the muscle diagram for day 17, it seems like you have the right "real" muscle activating for the top. To me, the dick bouncing is a PC muscle squeeze, which would be more "center" (?)

I to wonder whats up with the top. However if you look at the picture I chose for my avatar, which I pulled from the site it directs you to on mindgasm. Although you can't fully see it, to the left side . It lists that muscle at the base of your dick as the top. I have full control over this, I can flex it on top of my center. I can also flex the imaginary top. Where I am confused is which am I supposed to be flexing as my top, is the one at the base of your dick part of the center? Flexing the imainary brings better feelings.. 

Heres something you may want to add to your repitoire, Try flexing the sides of your center seperately, you will have to start in your imagination. Eventually you should be able to do it, just your imagination should work. It helps to create imbalance, without having to move a body part

@tbob 

Posted by: @tbob

I started out enthused, starting to bore me now.

This tickled me. Have to say I had a listen last year,and allie got on my nerves gabbling shit in my ear lol

Flex an imaginary top muscle? So what you guys saying there’s two tops now? Don’t they tell you that to help you flex the actual top? No wonder you’re confused.

Flexing the centre: Try concentrating below your pubic pad,you flex there,it may feel more like a push,or a bearing down. Or try “pulling” your balls into your body. You’ll feel it just north of your sphincter. 

The Nov 22nd lesson was the Trinity one.  It was certainly the best Mindgasm night I had..felt pretty good.  I can somewhat isolate the 3 muscles, but to use all at once is a bit challenging.  I did have lots of shaking and pleasure going on but I'd never be able to sustain it for long.  Need to practice for sure.  I think my biggest hurdle is when I am shaking, it is my whole pelvis and my lower stomach muscles are flexed and get sore and tired quickly.  I am sure they shoudl not be engaged so I have trouble isilating the 3 muscles from my lower stomach.

The lesson said, "If you have a toy, now is the time."  Since my MGX just arrived and it was my first night with it, I decided to do the Mindgasm without it.  I felt it would be tooo much "new" for one lesson and wanted to try the MGX afterwards.  The Mindgasm was pleasurable..more pleasurable than the MGX first try.  I guess next I will try the Trinity lesson with the MGX in place.

As you may or may not know, lately I have been using a dildo like an aneros, for the odd session.  Put it in as far as it will go and then leave it. Thought I'd try it with Trinity work out, quite sore today, in the weird good/bad way. I am so horny today and I'm getting slight involuntaries, that hurt good if you know what I mean. Not sure how I would catagorize the contractions, its like I am having a weak orgasm, and feels like a muscle is sucking the the tip of the dildo, and my asshole is breathing around the dildo. Would love to have a session today but I feel well fucked, yet strangly left wanting more. 

Damn! Today has about 2 hours of exercises.  Presumably we can pick and choose but they don't really say.

@hankey01 Yea I think its like a buffet idea. You'd walk like you rode a horse if you did all of that.

I just finished the Reverse Kegel day 26 work out. I would recommend this to anybody whether your doing the NNN challenge or not. Do the intro and the workout, I loved it  I felt heat, like I was generating it. Weirdly erotic. This exercise will go in my rotation on a regular basis. I have just the playlist for it. 

@tbob I had trouble understanding how to do the reverse kegels.  I felt very little.  :/

Looks like the lessonas are all done.  I wonder what the Lesson 6 Eternal Flame is about and if it's worth the investment.  The preview is just some music.

I'm not sure how to proceed now.  I am still getting nowhere with my Aneros..just some "pretty good" feelings.  Starting to feel like I am wasting so much time..

Posted by: @hankey01

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I had trouble understanding how to do the reverse kegels. 

Have a pee,push to pee faster and harder. This is a reverse Kegel. You can roll the push between penis and anus.

Posted by: @hankey01

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I'm not sure how to proceed now.  I am still getting nowhere with my Aneros..just some "pretty good" feelings.

I think you’ve entered siege mentality. It’s one of the worst booby traps on the journey. You had a good start,and then started to push. I think you’ve followed the MG NNN hoping it would provide the silver bullet,but it won’t. Maybe take a short break Hank,a week or two,then come back and start over,explore with different techniques,positions,play around with things. Go back and do what you were doing in the beginning sessions.

Posted by: @helghast

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Have a pee,push to pee faster and harder. This is a reverse Kegel. You can roll the push between penis and anus.

Simple enough..just didn't give me any pleasure.  Just made me worry I would pee. 😉

Posted by: @helghast

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I think you’ve followed the MG NNN hoping it would provide the silver bullet,but it won’t.

It certainly did leave me feeling good many times.  A big step from never being able to feel anything without playing with my dick. Progress for sure..but yes, I was hoping for a "mindgasm" by the end.

Posted by: @helghast

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Go back and do what you were doing in the beginning sessions.

I think the excitement/novelty/obsession has worn off.   I think that's what drove me to my first few fun sessions.  A co-worker set me up with a single dose cannibus pipe to try (for anxiety).  I tried last night but I don't think I did it right.   Hopefully next time I do it better and can chill my mind and just relax and enjoy a session.

Will take a break for a few days for sure. 🙂

@hankey01 Did you follow Allie, she makes it quite clear. If you hold it at 3, as she said, by the end of the session, trained or not trained you should feel something. I found the pleasure wasn't when I was pushing, I felt it more when she says relax. Pushing harder doesn't make it better, in fact it can be harmful. at the end of that session, I couldn't do a regular kegel and when I tried it felt so good. Could this be a patience thing?

 I didn't read Helghasts before I wrote this. But I concurr with his accessment

  I would have to say I'm quite disapointed with Mindgasm, total rip off in the end. I was waiting for the eternal wave and flame. Being a little advanced this leaves me totally pissed off. One big promo unlike last year, where you had access to the entire site. F U Mindgasm. Will log on to the reddit and discord and say the same thing.

@helghast

Posted by: @helghast

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Have a pee,push to pee faster and harder. This is a reverse Kegel. You can roll the push between penis and anus.

Agreed, this is it. Not much else to say.

Oh, when I did MG last year, I did reverse Kegel for "top" and it worked well enough. From that I made the observation that it hardly matters what you do, as long as you flex something, and as long as the center and base (PC and sphincters) are under relative control. I was a bit surprised to see that the MG folk decided to introduce this other motion, as it would change how the next sessions work (?). 

Posted by: @tbob

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I would have to say I'm quite disapointed with Mindgasm, total rip off in the end. I was waiting for the eternal wave and flame. Being a little advanced this leaves me totally pissed off. One big promo unlike last year, where you had access to the entire site. F U Mindgasm. Will log on to the reddit and discord and say the same thing.

C'mon, man. We got a lot of material for free. They did some research work on porn addiction, specific site layout for the challenge, we got several new audio tracks, wallpapers, etc. I'd say we got more this year than there was on the whole site last year. We're only missing the 3 advanced lessons.  While I have been a bit critical of MG before, they put a ton of work into this. Of course, it's a promo thing, but this was still 30 days worth of daily coaching, at zero cost. 

Maybe you feel ripped off, but I think maybe you're being a bit harsh here. 

Posted by: @zentai

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Maybe you feel ripped off, but I think maybe you're being a bit harsh here. 

 Your w elcome to disagree,  your entitled to your opinion. I'll go further and say it was a waist of my time. It was free last year to. 

@hankey01 

Posted by: @hankey01

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A co-worker set me up with a single dose cannibus pipe to try (for anxiety).  I tried last night but I don't think I did it right.

Unless anxiety is blocking you during masturbation and sex with your bf,which I don’t think it is,then it isn’t blocking you here.

Weed pipes,this toy,maybe that toy,maybe this technique,maybe that MG..lots of guys get caught jumping to the next thing in search of success. This is siege mentality. Take a break,come back and try to approach more level headed and accepting that it takes time to figure things out. The hardest part is separating the mind and the body,to get the physical work to be more autonomous whilst the mind is free to roam in arousal. You will get it.