Mindgasm...No Nut November...free

So, who's doing this? 

I did not actually start on the program myself; I might pick and choose some sessions later on or maybe I'll try to fit several days of exercises in the same session and then try to keep up, I don't know. 

I've been following the daily updates and checking the links and I have to admit that I really like the way things are presented. Daily LOL masturbation joke, some pieces of wisdom from ancient and modern thinkers, Mindgasm backgrounds for your desktop... There's a good balance of targeting a younger audience (my impression) without being cringey, the "Mindgasm feel" with the layout, color palette and A.I. Allie's presence looks and sounds nice.

If you're doing NNN anyway, I think this could be a great way to get started. 

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Oh, and obligatory "I'm not affiliated with anyone so I can always be 100% transparent with you guys" disclaimer. 

I tried it out last year. Couldn't quite get a handle on the "top". I don't think I stuck with it long enough to develop enough strength & separation either. In the end, I got frustrated because I wasn't even sure I was flexing the right muscles... to my mind, there are different muscles/flexes that I could think of as 'base' and 'center' (not to mention 'top'). Though I did manage to get some p-waves briefly, so it does look like there's something to it.

If only there were a pair of e-stim underpants I could put on, that would flex the right muscles for me.

Interesting project though, and the people on the Mindgasm Discord were cool. I might revisit it.

@clenchy 

This is probably not the official Mindgasm stance, but I found it did not matter a lot whether I was flexing the "right" muscles or not, as long as I was flexing distinct ones. In all my Aneros practice I never was really good at isolating things, and I decided that for me the "top" was simply pushing a tiny bit like I was trying to urinate, which made more sense than an imaginary muscle. This seemed to work well enough. 

 I thought she explains it quite well, with the pee and the poop muscles. One doesn't flex there bass to stop ones self from peeing, you flex your center , and your bass(sphincter) to stop the poop. The one thing I find confusing is the top, for me there is a muscle right next to the center, at the base of the penis, that makes it jump, and I can also flex the tip which is a very suttle flex, more imaginary than real. Yet if I really concentrate I can feel it, very hard to maintain this flex, but it very erotic. One of the best ways to recognize it, is to really pay attention to the head of your cock, next time you ejaculate. So you can imagine during aless. I am not sure if others feel 4 seperate muscle groups as in: bass, center, base of dick and top. I would be curious to know.

Posted by: @zentai

So, who's doing this? 

I hardly committed and so unsurprisingly broke the no-nut challenge.  But the early material has a reason(s) interesting enough to me to re-engage.  For one, quit porn since- and "scarier" things were mentioned- it siphons off some ability to delay gratification we need to pursue bigger, better things in life.  So's the thought to re-engage with the lessons (or Aneros, or Aless), boosted by saved-up NNN energy.  Time to get back on that horse.

Posted by: @clenchy

I got frustrated because I wasn't even sure I was flexing the right muscles

I had "mental" confusion, mostly for Top, which I didn't think I was doing "right".  And also "muscle" confusion in the hand-offs between Center and Base.  But I eventually worked Top out for myself to my satisfaction, and same for the hand-offs.  This in spite of what a diagram in some parenthetical material I'd seen depicted regarding Top, or should I say labeled, with respect to anatomical muscle names.  Top was in the end, a matter of trusting myself.  Hand-offs were a matter of practicing with the ebb and flow of the music, and focus.  I'm with @zentai , that utmost accuracy is not ultimately important, distinction among them is more so the case.  That's because we each have to figure out our own bodies.  Also as you go along, you may find yourself recruiting helpful muscles beyond what are strictly mentioned.  Particularly, with Base, it doesn't have to be just the outer sphincter: you may find doing a simultaneous flex by your tailbone adds pleasure.  A beauty of Mindgasm is it's well-considered simplicity- any more material could serve to confuse.  It shows you what you need to know to explore and learn.  @clenchy can get back on the horse, too ; )

@clenchy 

You are flexing the right muscles. You’re just doubting and questioning yourself mate.

Glad to see some trying the Mindgasm NNN.  Just like our Aneros journeys,  Mindgasm is a re-wiring process with many landmarks, plateaus and 'dud' sessions.  The eventual result needs a good foundation. 

My experience last year started about mid month, but I followed the advice and did NOT skip ahead, and did each lesson 4-5 times before trying the next one.  Even then I found it worthwhile to go back and re-do some lessons as warm up for the the next level.

Each of us will progress differently, just like our experiences here.  For me this really enhanced my A-Less experiences.  

cheers 

PS ,  I still struggle separating back and center flexes, but that hasn't prevented me from enjoying this.

I'm having a great time trying this, I find it funny that its so hard to rest controll from my  body as just a few flexs or pulsing and my body goes into auto mode. when she tells you to relax completely ,and I release control to my body,

Holy F**k, its so exotic ,deep,deep, deep anal contractions, who knew ya asshole could suck up so far. These exercises which outside of fighting with my body, are quit easy for me. After just 6 days I feel like I've turned my asshole into super hole. I course the hardest part is the SR, no touchy thing, My dick has become so sensitive. Its kinda orgasmic every time it gets the slightest pressure on it. I wonder how many of you are trying NNN Mindgasm?

I am following it as well and since I am new to all of this..it is awakening feelings.  I also had some trouble when she says "relax"..as I was quivering at that sweet spot. 😉

Posted by: @tbob

My dick has become so sensitive. Its kinda orgasmic every time it gets the slightest pressure on it.

I haven't touched my dick since Oct 31st (except to pee of course).  I am focusing on my learning and rewiring.  I am having the opposite effect it seems.  My dick does get hard sometimes in sessions but its mostly very soft and not aroused.  Sometimes it feels like it's hard and I'll look and its completely soft.  I hope it will still work after this month. 😉

Posted by: @hankey01

I am following it as well and since I am new to all of this..it is awakening feelings.  I also had some trouble when she says "relax"..as I was quivering at that sweet spot.

This is a normal issue with all guided audio, if you are not in synch with the instructions, it's easier to snap out of it. The same will happen if an audio assumes it will take x amount of time for you to get aroused or get on the edge and you get there too early or too late. Normally it's not a huge deal when the session is pretty open-ended like Mindgasm is, but when you need to cum on command after a countdown, this can be pretty frustrating... 

To be fair I feel Mindgasm is pretty good at avoiding this and other audio/hypnosis mistakes in general, so you're in good hands as long as you are comfortable with the material.    

  I'm starting to worry  about this Mindgasm, that my body is simply getting confused, being a do nothing type by nature. Now I kill it doing something and kill it doing nothing. But I'll stick with it to the end, maybe I can find the middle along the way. Enjoying it so far though. The SR seems a little easier once I commited to the NNN. This is the longest I've gone without ejac. since I started Aneros. How are the rest of you doing?

I ain’t got no problem with nnn,only have around 2 ejac per month.  Long as have my super o,I’m happy.

@tbob 

Not that great, hehe. I did not seriously commit to it, then some "real life stuff" happened, so I'm not following the Mindgams protocol, but I'm checking the daily updates. Of course there is strong bias towards fighting and pivoting from masturbation / porn addiction but there is much to learn for any non addict, too. All in all, I'm enjoying it from a knowledge standpoint, but I can't really get into SR, after 3 days it gets uncomfortable and I just feel my body is tuned to ejaculating at least 3-4 times a week. 

I listened to a few last night for the first time in about a year. Damn those exercises are exhausting. Good feelings though, I think I must have made more progress with it last year than I remembered.
Had a Helix session afterwards too, which was very good after that warmup.

Posted by: @tbob

  I'm starting to worry  about this Mindgasm, that my body is simply getting confused, being a do nothing type by nature. Now I kill it doing something and kill it doing nothing. But I'll stick with it to the end, maybe I can find the middle along the way. Enjoying it so far though. The SR seems a little easier once I commited to the NNN. This is the longest I've gone without ejac. since I started Aneros. How are the rest of you doing?

I am in the same boat.  I REALLY miss that release of a good ejacualtion/orgasm.  This is certainly the longest I have gone since I was 13. 😉 

Last night i had to catch up on a couple lessons so I did 2 back to back.  Was feeling pretty good for sure.  I have noticed the tingles/twitches/sweet spot improving since my first tries.  Gradual improvement for sure.

@zentai Yea I thought so to on the ejac 3-4 per week thing.  As uncumfortable as it may seem, I had to give it a decent try this time. I ususaly give up/in day 3 or 4 to. I feel very aware there is a mental battle for control, kinda like who's running this show me or you(my dick). It is kinda like being 14 again, you know when you could rub your cock against the hard sink and it feels so good. I almost lost it yesterday, I started stroking, but half way through I could tell the orgasm was going to be anticlimactic, so SR won that battle and I stopped. Also my dick is sure showing nice, I'm much bigger soft than normal. Which is a turn on, makes me want to yank it, oops battle on again.lol

Hello,

I am doing the Mindgasm NNN challenge too, but due to "conjugal duty" I started with a three day delay. For me today is day 8. It was surprisingly easy to find the sweet spot and get muscle vibrations. Towards the end of the "exercise" I had a very nice P-wave with a warm glow of the groins and the perineum afterwards. Already worth the try so far. I never thought that someone can have such fun sober, alone, hands-free with closes on and zipper up;-)

My problem is that I still want to have my two Aneros sessions per week and do not keep away from stuff that arouses me, like reading this forum or wearing a chastity cage. I have lots of erections over the day and get easily distracted towards my crotch. I had to refrain from sex or masturbation for some weeks several times before in my life. But this time is somehow different. It's not that urge or pressure in the penis and balls. The penis is no longer the focal point of arousal - It shifted towards the perineum, prostate, anus and urethra. And I can calm down the urge by focusing on "I will have my next Aneros session in x days".

Normally after more than two to three weeks without ejaculation I get dreams about having sex with real wet orgasms. I hope this will not spoil my challenge. Although I am not sure if this disqualifies me from the challenge as the only rules are not touching the primary sexual organ and no porn;-)

So far I think that Mindgasm and an Aneros massager are a perfect coalition.

I wonder to what nice places this road leads....

Best wishes

Hans

@hans_steam  I think if you didn't physically engage in the act all is good. Funny you should mention dreams. I had a dream the other night I to ahd a dream were I was in bed with a man( I'm not gay) he was about to fuck me but I got up to go clean my ass before we started, and then I woke up. And I had an completely anal orgasm, no other muscles were involved. I'm mad I woke up as I really wanted to feel his dick in me. I amsure a dildo is not the same. Who new Mindgasm could bring out the gay in me, I'm officially bi.

Hallo,

@Tbob: You didn't miss a thing. The brain is a complicated machine. If you never had a real male dick in you, your brain doesn't know how that feels and in consequence can not show you in dreams. In dreams it can fool you and generate feelings on the assumption it thinks how it should feel. E. g. if you never ate oysters and you dream you eat oysters, the brain will create a taste that it thinks how oysters should taste or use some taste from the database like some mussels you already ate or even complete nonsense like gummy bears. In dreams you won't notice the difference as your logical centre for reality checks is deactivated. To dream you ate oysters doesn't mean that you know how oysters really taste.

After all, if you want to know how it feels to have a real male dick in you, for sure there is only one way to find out.  For us straight guys I think it's very hard to overcome the blockade in the brain of doing such a "tabu" and be able to enjoy it and fully relax. And it is even more complicated to put this into practice. But from what I learnt the last year, it is rewarding being open minded and should be worth a try if the opportunity is given. If someone 2 years ago told me that stuffing things up my ass will show me a whole new dimension of enjoyment I would have called him right out crazy.

Best wishes

Hans

I'm jealous of the wet dreams!  I've never had one.  I did dream I had my first HFO recently tho.  It's on my mind big time. 

I'm afraid I failed at the No Nut last night.  Speaking of a male dick in the ass .. I enjoyed my boyfriend last night.  Things do feel good in there with my prostate awakening. 😉

After that I couldn't take it any more and we broke my "no touching dick" rule until I exploded 12 days worth of cum.  He wasn't happy about his bed.

Definitions of gay or bi or straight are limiting. We are sexual beings.  Curiosity and exploration don't define us.  Being ashamed of being gay is getting tiresome. I don't even like to define myself that way. 

Posted by: @hankey01

I'm jealous of the wet dreams!  I've never had one.  I did dream I had my first HFO recently tho.  It's on my mind big time. 

Hello hankey01,

I can assure you it's no fun at all. I once had one (at the age of 35) while being on a three week hiking holidays making a big spot in my expensive sleeping bag and all my friends could see it as you need to dry the sleeping bag inside out regularly.

Also I don't experience it as HFO, as in dreams I'm convinced I'm having normal sex or am masturbating. Right when the orgasm starts I wake up - because some part of the brain alarms that something feels wrong - and just feel the pumping of the cum without any pleasure. All I take away from this is "Oh no, not again. I need fresh underpants asap."

Sorry, I'm no native English speaker. By talking about tabus I didn't wan't to offend anyone. I meant as Tbob defines himself as "not gay" this normally implies that he may have difficulties to enjoy the experience of having sex with a male.

Best wishes

Hans

@hans_steam haha I'm sorry. Your camping story made me lol. 

I can understand the mess but I'm honestly jealous your dreams get you there.  At least in the right circumstances it could feel good. 😉

Posted by: @hankey01

I'm jealous of the wet dreams!  I've never had one.  I did dream I had my first HFO recently tho.  It's on my mind big time. 

This by definition is a wet dream, whether the actual wet part happens or not.

Funny short story about my first wet dream. I had a dream I was playing tag with I guess my girlfriend. When I caght her, and pulled her pants down, she looked like a Barbie doll with no genitals. lol  I had know idea what they looked like as I led quite  a sheltered life. I still laugh when I think about it. Ilitrally thought that once you got married babies just came, and you only had to have sex to make babies if you weren't married. lol  I honestly beleaved this. When I had my first orgasm it scared the hell out of me, I tried to stop this white stuff that was spraying all over the bthrm. 

Posted by: @hankey01

I'm afraid I failed at the No Nut last night

Don't sweat it just carry on with the Mindgasm. I did to, like you this was the longest Iv'e gone without busting a nut since I was 15. Was proud of myself I made it this far. I was thinking it my ruin the Mindgasm, turns out your body doesn't know your Mindgasming. last lesson was like the orgasm never happened.

Posted by: @hankey01

Definitions of gay or bi or straight are limiting. We are sexual beings.  Curiosity and exploration don't define us.  Being ashamed of being gay is getting tiresome. I don't even like to define myself that way. 

 Really nice thought, unfortunetly doesn't fit  many ppls reality.

@tbob funny how innocent we were. I thought babies were made when I wedding rings put on the baby's egg swim from the finger to her belly where it grew.  

I hope you didn't have a sister with barbie dolls!! Lol.  

Posted by: @hankey01

I hope you didn't have a sister with barbie dolls!! Lol. 

Yea I did. I used to babysit alot for money when I was young. Not to sound sick but thats how I found out, although I used to diaper my sibling twins, and countless other children when I was young. When I was 14 I had to change  my neighbors baby. I remember taking off the diaper and having a aha moment. My next wet dream the women had genitals. But I only rubbed my dick on the outside of the whole. lol I remember lying and bragging to my freinds like I new everything. Then around the same time blue movies started coming on late at night.

@tbob haha. Times have changed!   My kids have access to everything and no way more about these things and I did then or even now for that matter!

So hows everybody doing so far this NNN mindgasm day 16. I failed on the no nut part on day 12, with no adverse affects. Being a do nothing type normally, I am quite surprised at the early results, getting some nice pwaves, different firing order for contractions which feels very nice. I am glad I tried this, but there has been a downside. It seems to have affected my sessions, my body seems confused, usualy all I have to do is just think of it, and contractions start, aless is instantaneous for me. Now not so much. But of course as I write this aless has just kicked in , with long deep contractions. Gotta go ride this bad boy out.

@tbob 

Cant beat do something lol I never had the patience for do nothing lol

Posted by: @tbob

I failed on the no nut part on day 12

Lol I failed on the same day!  My teenage sons asked me if I made it through the weekend (it amazes me how open and knowledgeable kids are these days).  I told them ..no I didn't jerk off (technically true since it wasn't my hand). 😉  I'm tempted to tell my older son I am kind of cheating by getting new pleasures from inside now.  I won't tell him of course. 

Posted by: @tbob

So hows everybody doing so far this NNN mindgasm day 16

I'm finding it tough to find the time for some of the longer groups of lessons..but so far I'm pretty much up to date.  Last night's "Top" introduction was nice.  I felt some tingles and it was feeling good.  I always follow with my Aneros sessions after the mindgasm warmup.  On the 14th I was feeling very good..felt like orgasm might happen but still not quite there.  I did enjoy it very much though.  Last night after the 'Top' introduction..I got nowhere with my Aneros.  Felt nice..and always a few moments of pings/new sensations, but nowhere close to any waves.  So hit or miss.