Milestones question

@valdies24 Yes,let it happen. Involuntary contraction of all varieties lead to the promised land. 🙂

Man I have dejavu,I could swear I’ve already wrote this lol

Posted by: @valdies24

I was wondering if "The anus sucking in/contracting" really strongly on its own with no help from me is a milestone and if its something I should just let happen.
I'm guessing it's something I just need to accept and let it happen and see where it leads? Is it a good thing or am I just losing my marbles?

You are not losing your marbles. Yes, you should allow yourself to experience them, do not try to suppress how your body reacts. Where it leads? Those involuntary contractions are a "...good thing...", they are aspects of your orgasm. Early on in your Aneros journey they may not be pleasurable in and of themselves but as you focus your awareness on that contraction you will start to feel the pressure being applied to your prostate and the veil of nerves surrounding it. This is where the pleasure will begin to grow as the alternating gentle rhythm of contractions (pressure-release) stimulates and excites those nerves, in turn, stimulating adjacent nerves in a chain reaction intensifying your orgasm.

Don't expect this chain reaction to happen as rapidly as it does with penile stimulation. Be patient and savor the buildup. Prostate based orgasms are qualitatively different from penile based orgasms with nuanced sensations that may involve exciting nearly any part of your body in a harmonic resonance of pleasure.

Good Vibes to You!

@helghast yeah figured a new topic would get it seen more, just one last question, when doing the tug of war method and you get involuntarys while contracting, do you just keep holding the contraction as long as you can and does it turn into where you can stop contracting and it carrys on by itself or do you need to hold it....

Sorry if I made no sense 

@valdies24

The way I did it during A-Less was to keep pressure on pc contraction and sphincter contraction. Think of trying to suck air through the urethra and anus. Try not to completely let pressure off the pelvic floor,while still flexing other muscles,but try to to think about the contractions to much. 

Posted by: @helghast

Think of trying to suck air through the urethra and anus.

It will work in reverse too, where you try to 'push' both at the same time. Evidently you won't push very hard and it's part actual movement, part visualization. 

@zentai yeah thats what I do at the moment, but I've been finding that when I do this either my lower gut or my legs (where the joints connect at the hip) tend to tense up and suck in. Sometimes both do it, but I don't think this is an involuntary. But if they don't tense up then I can't contract if you see what I mean

@valdies24

It's ok if you can't isolate everything, it can be challenging separating the "good" involuntaries from the "bad" involuntaries, and trying to do so can mess things up, because how do you know which are which?

Posted by: @rumel

do not try to suppress how your body reacts.

Is great advice, do your thing, try @helghast's advice, alternate between that and what you're already doing, and don't worry if other muscles come in play, maybe they're needed for you to get to the next stage, you just don't know yet...  

Im definitely noticing alot more recently that i can feel my heartbeat by my prostate when im just relaxing in my armchair..... i believe this is a good sign even if its just the heartbeat im feeling, neither being pleasurable nor uncomfortable. I just notice it and sometimes it feels like i have very very slight involuntarys when focusing on it.

Posted by: @valdies24

Im definitely noticing alot more recently that (…)

Noticing things has been key to my progress.  Good job noticing things, keep it up.  It is an important progress-principle more so to me than any perhaps seeking to collect milestone attainment.

I’ve noticed around 9 discrete good-feeling pelvic-area muscle contractions I can activate.  I don’t have names for them all but I know ‘em by how it feels to contract them and by the weaker, or stronger in relation, sensations when I do them.  Noticing things is cool!