Massage Gun (cheat for HFWO)

What is a massage gun and where did you purchase it?

I have a theragun,but I use it on muscles,not sexually.

@fred27 Here is a link to a similar one.  https://www.amazon.ca/Medcursor-Percussion-Massager-Handheld-Brushless/dp/B07Y8W62KC

I have used it a few more times.  100% success rate within about 3 minutes.  Pretty sure its just the penis vibrating so fast (without being touched) but it feels very good.

Haven't had much opportunity to use with other toys yet.

@hankey01 I noticed 2 posts of yours didn’t go on. If you’ve put emoticons on your post,it won’t post. Not sure why.

@helghast yes for some reason the emoticons create troubles with my posts.  So odd!

@hankey01 I put mine on my balls once using the four point attachment.  My eyes got so big my wife asked what’s wrong. I nothing I think that will make me cum. She said do it as she was watching.  I didn’t I put it down.  Hmmm I’ll try it again Dam.

@newtoy get your wife to use it on you next time!

I have used the ball attachment and the flat one on the perineum only.  I'm certain if I stayed away from my penis I'd cum eventually but every time I get close to the penis base under my balls..I have a wet orgasm within a minute.

Last night I wasn't up for an Aneros session but as I was falling asleep I was doing contractions.  It started feeling pretty good and I thought MAYBE I'd get my first aless orgasm. It didn't quite get there but felt good.  So I didn't go to sleep sexually frustrated I grabbed my massage gun and vibrated my perinuem to a wet orgasm.  Works every time!

@hankey01 I’m sitting here now with my vice2 I will try the massage gun two thanks for the reminder!

@newtoy Haha have fun!  Might be to intense unless you go through a pillow or something.

I had a nice rubber dildo in one night and held the massage gun to the end of it.  It was vibrating inside me like crazy.  Felt very intense but possible too strong?  I saw videos of people doing similar and having intense orgasms.  I'll try again for sure.

@hankey01 it is intense maybe a little much I stop a few times. No super o yet but it’s the journey is what counts.

@hankey01 well I put it back on my perineum and held it their for about 6 minutes. Holy shit I have a hell of an orgasm. Didn’t touch my penis at all. 🤪

@newtoy Haha I love the real time updates!

It feels good right?  It builds up to orgasm, but not in strokes like jerking off...just a steady build to explosion!

@hankey01 yes you got that right. Slow until he blows.  Felt dam good.

I understand that you used it for therapeutic purposes. But still, it would have been more correct if your doctor had treated you. After all, such actions could have been detrimental to your health. I wouldn't resort to such a thing. I use such a massager now, but to relax my muscles. For those who run, it is salvation. You can explore this information about additional ways to use massage-gun-guide.com. I'm also interested to hear from other forum users how safe and effective your technique is in fighting prostate inflammation.

Have used a standard vibrator with the cup attachment placed on the head of my cock and always gives an explosive orgasm! Also have placed the flat attachment on the perenium and frenulum with explosive results as well! When I have my Jr inside and use the vibrator as above, the orgasms are even more intense!

@ashtondavies thank you for the link. I run as well so I will check it out.  My tight hamstrings are hell!

@fred27 sounds like fun!! 

Among the 50+ toys ($8000 worth) that I own, I also own a massage gun. It tends to send residual vibrations into my penis and makes me have an ejaculatory orgasm. I actually prefer the Domi 2 because it does not transfer vibrations to the penis when on the anus or taint.

After years and thousands spent, I finally found an external technique that provides me stupefying pleasure, no clean-up, and convenient than any internal technique I have tried thus far, including the prostate orgasms I've had on the Sybian. This technique might also work for people who cannot do external stimulation because of some medical condition or those who forgo prostate or internal anal stimulation because the time involved in the warm up and clean up process. 

My approach requires no relaxation technique, no quitting porn, no semen retention, no kegels, no breathing techniques, no anal contractions, and involves penis stimulation. These are all optional and are up to your own personal preference. By controlling stimulation precisely through vibration and years of practice, I can have hundreds of non-ejaculatory orgasms in a few hours.

In the last decade, I mastered a technique I call precision edging with a bullet vibrator. I started out doing start and stop edging and kegel flexing at the PONR, but I found it distracting from enjoying the orgasms. I'd only have like 6 weak orgasms at most this way and then ejaculate, so I would just do like 3 to 6 rounds per night.

With precision edging, I get asymptotically close to the PONR and stimulate my penis the whole time, holding the vibrator on a low setting at whatever location provides me control, usually the very base of my penis. I don't have to worry about relaxing or anything. I can tense up if I want and still have multiple orgasms every 10 to 20 seconds for over an hour. I have about 20 to 30 penile non-ejaculatory orgasms in a 10-to-15 minute nightly quickie. These are not just contractions without orgasmic sensation, which some may consider orgasms or mini-orgasms. While they vary in intensity, some are much more powerful than my traditional orgasms and are feel very similar but the orgasm is felt on my asshole. Sometimes a penile and anal orgasm happen at the same time into a blended orgasm. When I'm high, these orgasms tend to be even more full body, sending ASMR sensations over my back and down my arms. They are more powerful than my non-ejaculatory orgasms before spermarche.

Last month, I have discovered that my anus has the same multiorgasmic response as my penis. When using the Aneros, I noted contractions and the feeling of pushing out, but it did not have a "OMG my ass is cumming so hard...again" mind-blowing feeling that I experienced this way. I combine my precision edging with pressing the rumbly Domi 2 onto my asshole. My asshole loves this toy. It's like three times the intensity of my stronger ejaculatory orgasms with contractions. These orgasms feel bigger and broader and even more powerful than ones. It makes sense because the anus is bigger than the frenulum, where I primarily feel non-ejaculatory or ejaculatory orgasms. Along with my nightly 20 to 30 penile orgasms, I also have 15 to 20 anal orgasms. Afterwards I am so cum-drunk that I can barely think and cannot concentration. It's similar but not as bad as I was after forcing about 20 ejaculatory orgasms out of myself, whereafter my Sybian-strapped female play partner deemed me unfit to drive and drove us to dinner. I would love to devote a day to orgasms again and have as many non-ejaculatory penile orgasms, anal orgasms, prostate orgasms, and ejaculatory orgasms as my heart desires. I'm excited to find out what other pleasures my body is capable of. 

@cummingrainbows is your "precision edging" just using a bullet vibrator at the base of your penis?  Or are you also touching your dick until you get the the PONR?

I tried a massage gun, it doesnt work for prostate orgasms. 🙁

@hankey01 I stimulate my dick the entire time. I stimulate wherever on my dick that I feel control or feels good with a given stimulation type, intensity, and contact applicator width, whether that be the head or the base. It changes throughout my session and sometimes for each orgasm. If I want penile NEOs after say 10 refractory periods from lots of ejaculatory orgasms in an 8 hour party, I will need a powerful vibrator on my frenulum to have more NEOs and another final ejaculation. The base of my dick, where the dick meets the balls and not the inner penis/taint, is my go-to with my vibrator, especially if I'm very horny, feel less in control, less in a meditative state, and am doing mutual masterbation.

For me, having penile NEOs is key to having external back-to-back anal and super anal orgasms. After a few penile NEOs, my anus is extremely receptive to my pressing my Domi 2 or Doxy Don hardly on my asshole. It loves penetrating rumbles. Without simultaneous penile NEOs with my precision edging, my anal orgasms feel less intense, take far longer to have, or do not come. I liken it to how clitoral stimulation helps some individuals have other types of anal, cervix, or vaginal orgasms. 

@cummingrainbows not sure what NEO's are but it sure sounds like you have it mastered.  You might have to make a training video.  😉

Since I can only get penis orgasms I have no idea how that must feel.  Last night I was playing with the massage gun and right on my anus did feel very good but I had to stimulate my penis to have an orgasm.  I've all but given up on the Aneros.  I try it from time to time but my ONE HFWo is all I have ever managed.

@hankey01 Perhaps I can make some video of what I do but with silicone models. I'm not sure whether the outcome of the technique is very specific to me or whether it can be replicated. Though I imagine there are some people who may respond similarly and have anal orgasms.

The fact that you found the massage gun on your anus pleasurable is a good sign that you will at least experience some pleasure whether an orgasm happens or not. I always knew that external anal stimulation was pleasurable for me (even preferable to internal stimulation), but I did not have my first anal orgasms until a couple months ago, when I thought to combine external anal stimulation using my rumbly Doxy Don or Domi 2 with penile non-ejaculatory orgasms (NEOs) using precise stimulation to the orgasm threshold without passing the ejaculatory threshold/PONR.

Precision edging is different from start-and-stop style edging, because I am stimulating the whole time with a controlled degree of stimulation. It takes much less effort for me than kegels, relaxing, breathing techniques, and other techniques. To reduce stimulation, I simply adjust the setting, or lower it on the penis toward the balls, or decrease pressure. I came up with the idea from masturbating with the most precise vibrator of them all, a biothesiometer.

NEOs helped me have my first anal orgasms. Some people swear by not touching the penis, but I was not in this segment.

The orgasm threshold and ejaculatory threshold are extremely close together. It took a decade, trying every technique I could find, and buying thousands of dollars of toys for me to sense how close I am to orgasm or the ejaculatory threshold/PONR and to figure out ways to stimulate reliably and effortlessly, yet carefully to one without hitting the other. I find lighter vibrators help me have more control and orgasm easier. 

A couple things tend to be true based on my experience of NEOs through carefully stimulating to orgasm and decimally/asymptotically close ejaculatory thresholds. This is not an exact science in any way, but only how I view the approach for myself. I now have NEOs reliably every night within a minute or two regardless of kegels, relaxation, breathing techniques, etc.

• Orgasm and ejaculation are different phenomenon that occur extremely close together in people without anejaculation or anorgasmia with ejaculation.
• Assuming hundreds of other factors for orgasms are ideal health-wise, likelihood of orgasm or ejaculatory is given by a (A) certain degree of tactile stimulation plus (B) mental arousal. A and B can be almost zero in some cases, and people will still orgasm. Very rarely will someone have an orgasm or ejaculate with both equaling zero.
• A certain degree of stimulation is required to orgasm and ejaculate. The ejaculatory threshold requires a decimally greater amount of psychological or tactile stimulation than penis-induced NEOs.
• People tend to not have an ejaculatory orgasm without touching themselves, unless psychological arousal is extremely high.

Thus, I hypothesized that an almost insensibly low vibration will allow me to surf my arousal at and around the orgasm threshold without hitting the ejaculatory threshold/PONR for back-to-back orgasms and status orgasmus. I was shocked the first time this happened to me, and I had 8 to 10 second orgasms every couple seconds for over 10 minutes and then went back for more.

Later, I also found that it isn't as simple as an orgasm threshold and an ejaculatory threshold, I found there also seems to be intermediatory points. One is the contractual orgasm threshold, which follows the NEO orgasm threshold but involves contractions if stimulated a little more decimally close to the PONR beyond the penile NEO orgasm threshold without contractions. Slightly beyond this is the partial ejaculation threshold, which involves a small about of ejaculate (not precum) shooting out with anal contractions but without triggering the a refractory period, since the full ejaculatory response was not triggered. Some videos that show multiple ejaculations or ruined orgasms within a minute tend to feature this type of partial ejaculatory orgasm. 

@cummingrainbows 

This is what I have been trying to achieve through edging to the PONR then stopping stimulating, experiencing the initial spurt of ejaculate, but not triggering the full blown contractions/refractory period.

Can you explain what you are doing with the bullet vibe and where it is positioned when you reach the PONR?

Do you stop manual hand stimulation when you get to the PONR with the vibe?  Do you leave the vibe on your penis all through the orgasm or do you remove it?

@busnut   How's the start and stop style edging for you?

I did that for many years. The little spurt of ejaculate is very common with this technique and requires a lot of concentration. Same happens to me. I found it was very difficult to have more than like 10 penile NEOs this way. They tended to be weak and short.

Nevertheless, they can be great for some people and beginners to precision edging to learn the feeling of inevitability. I also had similar results with the kegel approach, which, according to an anatomist I spoke with, most likely works through a psychosomatic component rather than physically stopping the 27mph ejaculation. I believe kegels slightly adjust the level of psychological and physical stimulation at the last moment to stop ejaculation from occurring.

To conceptualize why the partial ejaculation happens (at least with me and from only a model perspective), I have the following hypothesis. I came up with this concept when I was first experimenting with masturbating with a medical-grade vibrator, the biothesiometer, and had over 40 orgasms every couple seconds for 20 minutes before a final ejaculation and then waited 15 minutes and replicated it many more times that day until present.

The orgasm-ejaculatory threshold hypothesis states that the following psycho-stimulatory arousal points (especially the intermediary thresholds) exist in the following sequence and have the following characteristics:

• Contraction-less Non-Ejaculatory Orgasm Threshold (9.5-9.6/10 of PONR) - orgasm, no contractions, no ejaculation, no refractory period
• Contractual Non-Ejaculatory Orgasm Threshold (9.7-9.8/10 of PONR) - orgasm, some anal contractions, no ejaculation, no refractory period
• Partial Ejaculatory Threshold (9.8+/10 of PONR) - orgasm, some anal contractions, a little ejaculation, no refractory period
• Ejaculatory Threshold (10/10 of PONR) - orgasm, contractions, ejaculation, refractory period

Notice how as the threshold increases, symptoms associated with ejaculation start gradually joining the orgasm that lies before it. 

When precision edging with the bullet vibrator (the more comfy, ergonomic biothesiometer substitute), my goal is to be between 9.5 and 9.7. I'll orgasm and then go back down to, say, 9.0/10 or even 8/10 but then be back at 9.5 a 10 a minute or often 10-20 seconds later. I stimulate continuously, akin to some multi-orgasmic females, who rub/vibrate their clit through orgasms. I usually don’t stop unless I want to extend play after having like 40 cock NEOs and start hitting 9.8 with partial ejaculations and want to decrease arousal. At this point, I’m so sensitive that the wind blowing would make me ejaculate.

If I do ejaculate, no big deal. My refractory period averages 15 minutes at age 30, and sometimes it’s easier after a couple rounds, because the psycho-stimulatory threshold of the PONR and its respective decimally close orgasm threshold also tend to increase after each refractory period. With precision edging, I don't have to worry about kegeling at the right time, relaxing, breathing techniques, meditation, or stopping at the right time. I just need to turn the vibrator to a comfortable level and then put it on the region of my cock that gives the most control from moment to moment. I usually don't do the top of the glans, region B below, as I found I get hypersensitive and uncomfortable. It makes me more sore afterward, so it's harder to do more rounds. However, some individuals may prefer this region, so it's still game.

I personally don't use lube for the vibrator, which I find is a benefit of vibrators. I hold it at one location at a time. I don't like to be sticky or slippery or take a shower again before heading to bed every night.  For precision edging, I use the vibrator at the base of the penis backwards on the handle-side for the most control. 

If the orgasm threshold is 9.5/10 and the ejaculatory threshold is 10/10, then with this technique, I can keep hitting between 9.5 and 9.9 very confidently. I can do this with my hand too by rubbing very small spots on my penis like a clitoris or stroking and then slowing down stimulation/minimizing the stroke length/finger count/stroke area to fine tune my level of arousal, but my orgasms are much more intense, quicker/easier to have, and plentiful with my vibrators. 

Here's a little model. Any region is okay for precision edging. A is commonly most sensitive, and G is commonly least sensitive (Rowland, 1998, Penile Sensitivity in Men: A Composite of Recent Findings.) What is important is learning to sense the proper combination of the sensitivity of the region + amount of stimulation + level of psychological arousal and the proximity to the PONR and it's respective, decimally close orgasm threshold.

@cummingrainbows you show spot "A" in the picture as where you do controlled edging but earlier you said, "With precision edging, I get asymptotically close to the PONR and stimulate my penis the whole time, holding the vibrator on a low setting at whatever location provides me control, usually the very base of my penis."  Do you use both areas?

I gave this a try with a bullet vibrator (at the base just above the balls).  It felt pretty good fo a while but the feelings subsided and I resorted to jerking off.  I did get close then used the vibrator until I ejaculate a bit of clear runny fluid, but still no orgasm.  I used the clear fluid to jerk off some more..then the vibrator when close.  More fluid came out but when I tried to jerlk off I couldn't any more.  I guess it was a mild orgasm with the semen coming out a couple of times.  I was spent so that was it.

So far in my Aneros journey the only thing I can guarantee is to play with an Aneros or my fake Njoy wand...then jerk off until I feel close then if I push with the wand..I can sometimes squirt fluid a few times then continue to jerk off until I hit that final orgasm.  Only ONCE did I have a HFWO.  I haven't been able to duplicate that.

@hankey01 Great question! Yep! I actually use the frenulum a lot in the beginning of my sessions and for the first couple penile NEOs but then shift down toward G and lower or raise the speed. It's a blend of whatever feels good and whatever is the proper stimulation to hit 9.5/10 of the PONR. It's constantly changing, and after, say, 10 sessions ending in a super T throughout the day, I could use a Hitachi Wand for precision edging because my psychological-stimulatory threshold for orgasm and it's decimally close ejaculatory threshold are very high. Personally, I don't really pay attention to any precum or spurting fluid, since it's not indicative of an orgasm. That's more associated with ejaculation, Cowper's Gland production, and male squirting. Sometimes it's related to the partial ejaculation without ejaculation too. This is more common with people who use stop and start edging or kegels than the Njoy, which is associated with either male squirting or precum.

I've had 3 enjoyable sessions with a bullet vibrator and Njoy wand/Aneros.  The first time I was just using the Njoy and added vibration to the underside middle of my penis with a bullet vibrator.  As I pumped the Njoy in and out it brought me to a nice wet orgasm.

The second time I put a penis sleeve toy on my penis and wedged the bullet vibrator in it along the bottom my my penis.  I played with he wand again and when I gave up on the Njoy only I turned on the vibrator and pumped the Njoy until had a wet orgasm.

Last night I tried to make it totally hands free so I did the same with the sleeve but used my Progasm instead of the Njoy.  With the vibrator off I enjoyed the sensation and tried some breathing.  It was feeling pretty good and I enjoyed the feeling of my penis being held tight by the latex sleeve.  I was hoping that alone might help bring me to a prostate orgasm..but after about 20 minutes it was time to kick things up.  I turned on the vibrator and just layed back and enjoyed the sensations.  It took about 5 minutes of pleasure..the vibrations felt like electricity going from my penis to my prostate and back.  I really enjoyed being able to just lay back and enjoy.  Soon I had a very nice wet orgasm which lasted about 15 seconds.  After that it still felt very good so I enjoyed the sensations for about 10 more minutes.  Eventually I decided it was time to get some sleep so I shut it off and cleaned up.

I know I am not getting any progress with Prostate orgasms, but this combo feels very nice.  I doubt the vibrations alone would bring me to orgasm so the pleasurable prostate stimulation hits that turbo button.  A year ago I had never experienced orgasm without rubbing my penis so I can enjoy this new experience for sure.  I may try to get a smaller vibrator(or weaker) and see if I can kind of wean myself off the penis stimulation to more prostate stimulation to orgasm. 

I am enjoying my new hands free pleasure.  The hands free pleasure of receiving a blow job with toys only.

@Dundie

Here are some important considerations to keep in mind when using a fascia gun on the penis:

1. Start with a low intensity setting: The penis is a sensitive area, so it's crucial to begin with a low intensity level on the fascia gun. Gradually increase the intensity if necessary, but always prioritize safety and comfort.
2. Avoid direct contact with the urethra: The urethra is a delicate part of the penis, and direct contact with the fascia gun can cause discomfort or injury. Be mindful of the area you're targeting and avoid placing the gun directly on the urethra.
3. Use a suitable attachment: Fascia guns often come with various attachments designed for different parts of the body. When using the gun on the penis, choose a soft or medium attachment that provides gentle pressure and avoids excessive stimulation.
4. Focus on surrounding areas: Instead of directly targeting the penis, focus on the surrounding areas such as the pelvic region, groin, and thighs. This can help relieve tension and tightness in the muscles without directly affecting the sensitive tissues of the penis.
5. Listen to your body: Pay close attention to how your body responds during and after using the fascia gun. If you experience any pain, discomfort, or unusual sensations, stop immediately and consult a healthcare professional.

Remember, using a fascia gun on the penis should be done with caution and awareness of the potential risks. If you have any concerns or questions, it's always best to seek guidance from a medical professional. Know more...www.fasciagun.com

I have heard that the theragun against the pelvic bone could be a hack to MMO, but I never had any luck with it. 

I have carefully used it to pleasure the wife with explosive results. Massage the back, shoulders, and feet to get some relaxation going, then flip her over and carefully work her mound and around her bits. I use my fingers over her clitoris as a buffer and to add more control. Worked on my wife, your mileage may vary.